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Post Post #3125 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:12 am

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Enjoying the "Minor logic error in trying to figure out exactly what I was doing this game, I win" type arguments though. If you felt Hu Tao was sussing you more then the obvious answer is that you shot Hu Tao to not lose to Hu Tao voting you
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Post Post #3126 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:13 am

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Like biggest indicator that Enchant is scum here is insta-voting us
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Post Post #3127 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:13 am

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In post 3126, usesPython wrote: Like biggest indicator that Enchant is scum here is insta-voting us
I get the sense enchant just likes voting people
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Post Post #3128 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:14 am

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In post 3127, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 3126, usesPython wrote: Like biggest indicator that Enchant is scum here is insta-voting us
I get the sense enchant just likes voting people
Yeah but he still gets his act together in ELO
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Post Post #3129 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:15 am

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He only does the funny quickhammer compilation when it doesn't lose the game
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Post Post #3130 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:36 am

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I mean yeah i am more cautious during ELO.


Here it was not neccessary. I was assured you are mafia so i kinda saw no point staling.
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Post Post #3131 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:38 am

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Being possible eaten alive by dead thread for voting Ketchup ceirtanly helped.
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Post Post #3132 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:41 am

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In post 2942, Enchant wrote: @Python
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I guess you are last allies i have in this game.

It's useless to talk with Hu Tao, Hu Tao always accuses me every game due some bias (look at any previous game where Hu Tao first to yell ENCHANT OBVIOUS SCUM I KNOW), so i save my time.

I don't strongly believe Hu Tao is mafia, i just find suspicious that Black had practically zero support last day and decided to 1vs1 Hu Tao out of blue.


I am willing to try to work with @Ketchup as well (not like i have choice), but i would like to avoid so.
why did you never express doubts about Python? were you holding something back, or did you just put PC as scummier?
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Post Post #3133 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:41 am

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In post 3131, Enchant wrote: Being possible eaten alive by dead thread for voting Ketchup ceirtanly helped.
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Post Post #3134 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:55 am

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In post 3132, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 2942, Enchant wrote: @Python
@Political Clout

I guess you are last allies i have in this game.

It's useless to talk with Hu Tao, Hu Tao always accuses me every game due some bias (look at any previous game where Hu Tao first to yell ENCHANT OBVIOUS SCUM I KNOW), so i save my time.

I don't strongly believe Hu Tao is mafia, i just find suspicious that Black had practically zero support last day and decided to 1vs1 Hu Tao out of blue.


I am willing to try to work with @Ketchup as well (not like i have choice), but i would like to avoid so.
why did you never express doubts about Python? were you holding something back, or did you just put PC as scummier?
When i called them allies i didn't mean i townread them (that's in case of Python, I obviously townread Clout otherwise day would end FAR quicker).

Considering both you and Hu Tao worked to get me out of game, i needed their support to not get killed. While i had my doubts against Python, i was not in position to push my point: I simple get voted and my voice lost.


If you forgot, main reason why Hu Tao wanted me out is my "terrible reads" of Ketchup+Python+Maybe Hu Tao. So claim i never expressed doubt is incorrect.
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Post Post #3135 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:02 am

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right yeah that adds up
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Post Post #3136 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:49 am

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day1:

who did Python engage with / talk about their reads of in day 1? (in order of appearance)

Koba: a lot
PC: 34, 46, 54, 55, 59, 707
Ketchup: 59, 101, 121, 706, 740, 741, 745, 867

Black: 79, a mere "Elaborate", and Black was quick to shut this line of convo down in
Drew: 101, 348, 354, 358, 362, 364, 370, 373, 426, 707, 800
Jackson: 343, 706
Light: 346 "We true claim cult leader"
Lap: 351, 358, 359, 707
Hu Tao: 358, 359, 362, 364, 366, 369, 371, 426, 706, 707, 741, 806, 816
Ranger: 707, 740, 745, 806, 813, 816
Titus / Enchant / Python: n/a

who did Python vote?

Koba (20)
PC (34)
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Lap (350)


the Light vote is interesting because it was never backed up. The other interesting thing is that Black and Light were 2 of the 4 (+Jackson+Titus) least engaged with slots, and while Python said "We're vibing with JV" in , no thoughts were offered as to Light or Black's alignment, which would fit in with a Black+Light distance with each other while not enaging with the third scum world. could also hint at Drew becoming a threat for Python later on, maybe leading to the N4 NK. but let's take a look at day 2 in the next post yip yip yippee
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Post Post #3137 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:51 am

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but yeah what's interesting to me is how 2 of the 3 (non Arko non Python) slots Python did not give opinions on were Light and Black. (and Titus)
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Post Post #3138 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:24 am

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In post 3136, ketchup777 wrote: the Light vote is interesting because it was never backed up.
By that same logic our PC vote was never backed up, just because we didn't write it in thread doesn't mean we didn't have reasoning. light vote was us sheeping Black in
In post 3136, ketchup777 wrote: The other interesting thing is that Black and Light were 2 of the 4 (+Jackson+Titus) least engaged with slots, and while Python said "We're vibing with JV" in , no thoughts were offered as to Light or Black's alignment, which would fit in with a Black+Light distance with each other while not enaging with the third scum world. could also hint at Drew becoming a threat for Python later on, maybe leading to the N4 NK. but let's take a look at day 2 in the next post yip yip yippee
D1 progression looks bad simply cause the day ended in 3 irl days and we were V/LA for most of it (Also sudden brain blast was Enchant picked as the deepwolf specifically cause of no d1 posts?)
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Post Post #3139 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:34 am

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If you look at it in terms of irl days then it's:
  1. Day 1:
    1. Koba
    2. PC
    3. ketchup
    4. Black
    5. Drew
    6. light
  2. Day 2:
    1. JV
    2. light
    3. Drew
    4. Lap
    5. Hu Tao
    6. Koba
  3. Day 3:
    1. Ketchup
    2. Hu Tao
    3. Koba
    4. PC
    5. Lap
    6. Ranger
Which like is pretty normal for us, only have so much energy to devote to mafia and it's not enough to read the entire PL if D1 ends that early
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Post Post #3140 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:40 am

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In post 3139, usesPython wrote: If you look at it in terms of irl days then it's:
  1. Day 1:
    1. Koba
    2. PC
    3. ketchup
    4. Black
    5. Drew
    6. light
  2. Day 2:
    1. JV
    2. light
    3. Drew
    4. Lap
    5. Hu Tao
    6. Koba
  3. Day 3:
    1. Ketchup
    2. Hu Tao
    3. Koba
    4. PC
    5. Lap
    6. Ranger
Which like is pretty normal for us, only have so much energy to devote to mafia and it's not enough to read the entire PL if D1 ends that early
is this your scummiest to least scummy at those points or the order of sorting people?
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Post Post #3141 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:42 am

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people who we talked about or to period
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Post Post #3142 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:45 am

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In post 3138, usesPython wrote: D1 progression looks bad simply cause the day ended in 3 irl days and we were V/LA for most of it (Also sudden brain blast was Enchant picked as the deepwolf specifically cause of no d1 posts?)
Honestly it would look way more belivable if you said that my mafia team decided to quickly eliminate self when i replaced in.


Python is NOT first time player to not know how notoriously bad player i am and mafia would NEVER EVER EVER bet game on me being last mafia, unless they are memeing.
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Post Post #3143 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:52 am

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In post 3142, Enchant wrote:
In post 3138, usesPython wrote: D1 progression looks bad simply cause the day ended in 3 irl days and we were V/LA for most of it (Also sudden brain blast was Enchant picked as the deepwolf specifically cause of no d1 posts?)
Honestly it would look way more belivable if you said that my mafia team decided to quickly eliminate self when i replaced in.


Python is NOT first time player to not know how notoriously bad player i am and mafia would NEVER EVER EVER bet game on me being last mafia, unless they are memeing.
light was dead, Black was scumread by the entire lobby, we don't see why it's that crazy for you to be picked as last
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Post Post #3144 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 am

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No-No-No.

If you accuse me of bussing all my teammates, you need to consider that one of major reasons Light is dead is accusation on OBVIOUS from MY perspective VT-Conftown.
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Post Post #3145 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 am

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ketchup something for you to look at: It's a lot easier here for scum to go "No you're wrong about what makes me scum" than it is for them to go "Here's why the other person is scum"
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Post Post #3146 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:57 am

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I already know you are mafia.


From my perspective anything you did is mafia aligned.
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Post Post #3147 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:01 am

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In post 3146, Enchant wrote: I already know you are mafia.


From my perspective anything you did is mafia aligned.
Wow you'll never believe this co-incidence
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Post Post #3148 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:02 am

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In post 3147, usesPython wrote:
In post 3146, Enchant wrote: I already know you are mafia.


From my perspective anything you did is mafia aligned.
Wow you'll never believe this co-incidence
I never believe you.
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Post Post #3149 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:03 am

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Enchant we should roll scum together sometime
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