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yeah this is a good point, unless you were just super committed to making yourself look coolIn post 3144, Enchant wrote: No-No-No.
If you accuse me of bussing all my teammates, you need to consider that one of major reasons Light is dead is accusation on OBVIOUS from MY perspective VT-Conftown.- ketchup777
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day 2 who did Python engage with or offer a read on:
Enchant: 1127, 1128, 1133, 1156, 1160, 1164, 1168, 1171
Ranger: 1130, 1222, 1245, 1257, 1258, 1266, 1267
Drew: 1130, 1198, 1201
Hu Tao: 1132, 1217, 1245, 1258
Black: 1153
Ketchup: 1159, 1181, 1197, 1198, 1240
Titus: 1160
JacksonVirgo: 1201, 1203, 1249, 1288, 1296, 1305, 1307, 1320
PC: 1201, 1203, 1204, 1230, 1236, 1245, 1249, 1266, 1290, 1303, 1307
Light: 1320
freezeframe here! stop! look how Black, Light and Titus are once again the not-interacted with slots. ok now continue
Enchant: 1127, 1128, 1133, 1156, 1160, 1164, 1168, 1171, 1383, 1397, 1404, 1444, 1527, 1676, 1811, 1826, 1839, 1841, 1842, 2219
Ranger: 1130, 1222, 1245, 1257, 1258, 1266, 1267, 1538, 1539, 1738, 1748, 1749, 1750, 1751, 1930, 1990, 2208, 2210, 2216, 2236, 2252, 2287, 2298 "Folks we got a red check on ranger tomorrow" could hint Python knew Ranger would be alive the next day, 2309
Drew: 1130, 1198, 1201, 1329, 1673, 1676, 1685, 1692, 1699, 1704, 1705, 1711, 1745, 1768, 2252
Hu Tao: 1132, 1217, 1245, 1258
Black: 1153 [setup stuff], 1666 "We'll vibe check Black when we wake up, no hammers until then please", 1670 "vibecheck wise Black is obvtown d1 cause of the synesthesia-type feeling of her posts being a knife that we associate with her town games || d2 posting is ass but we're willing to ignore it and trust", 1673, 1685, 1688, 1692, 1694, 1697, 1699, 1704, 1708, 1710, 1711, 1722, 1723 [all of the left are a massive discussion about setup without really offering any reads], 1746 "We didn't want a hammer yet and we didn't like Blacks d2 posting, what is the issue", 1756 [softdefending Black], 1782 "Why is Titus scum, so far we've only seen the Ranger argument that hinges on scum being informed about the setup", 1906 "python what is your read on Titus|| Could be partnered with PC but we'd prefer to go PC before Titus cause the rest of her posting isn't bottom tier"
Ketchup: 1159, 1181, 1197, 1198, 1240, 1329, 1338, 1362, 1444, 1665, 1672, 1679, 1680, 1742, 1745, 1746, 1750, 1751, 1752, 1756, 1762, 1767, 1771, 1772, 1778, 1789, 1795, 1803, 1804, 1807, 1808, 1811, 1814, 1817, 1830, 1831, 1839, 1852, 1855, 1856, 1859, 1864, 1909, 1932, 1939, 1990, 2265, 2272, 2280, 2284
Titus: 1160, 1782, 1906, 2207 "Not hammering", 2208, 2219, 2226, 2236, 2244, 2252, 2253, 2282 "Still not interested in hammering this"
JacksonVirgo: 1201, 1203, 1249, 1288, 1296, 1305, 1307, 1320, 1362, 1391, 1451, 1471, 1523, 1531, 1534, 1536, 1538, 1671, 1675, 1676, 1750, 1768, 1826, 1941, 2216, 2287, 2297
PC: 1201, 1203, 1204, 1230, 1236, 1245, 1249, 1266, 1290, 1303, 1307, 1523, 1525, 1531, 1675, 1859, 1866, 1885, 1906, 1922, 1935, 2219
Light: 1320 "We'll wait until light claims to comment on this further", 1383 "Ok cool light claimed not vanilla.", 1385 "why is black voting me if she has an inno on me?""Godfather game", 1671 [to jackson]"Why not light?",
n/a: Koba, Lap, Python
Votes:
PC (1249)
unvote (1307)
light (1325)
Black (1662)
Ketchup (1664)
unvote (1849)
PC (1879)
Ranger (2215)
Notes:
1173 feels like town POV from Enchant
ok
that was a lot of effort
but I think I've got what I needed
On day 1, the least interacted with were Titus, Black, Light and Jackson
On day 2, a much longer day, it was Light and Hu Tao, despite Light being a leading wagon and offering thoughts would have been welcome. While postwise Python interacted a lot with Black, most of it was just a prolonged discussion about setup. The fact Python practically dodged reading either Black or Light for 2 whole days is er... sus. and to check I'm not being biased:
ketchup: scumread turned potential townread
enchant: conf via mech
ranger: scummy, decided Python late into day 2
PC: scummy, yet Ranger apparently became scummier
Titus: mid-tier / scumlean, yet not worth hammering (twice)
Hu Tao: seemed to townspew her day 1
Drew: because Drew acted as cop Python townread Drew, saying that scum Drew would not have risked hammering Laplacian without knowing the setup
JacksonVirgo: vibed as town early on, didn't post many reads of him since but interacted a fair amount, some of the talk about setup tho
Black: 1670: "vibecheck wise Black is obvtown d1 cause of the synesthesia-type feeling of her posts being a knife that we associate with her town games || d2 posting is ass but we're willing to ignore it and trust". 1746: "We didn't want a hammer yet and we didn't like Blacks d2 posting, what is the issue"
Light: never offered a read. this is very surpirsing. I legitimately cannot find Python offering a read on Light, beyond not hammering. Which is kinda very surprising.
ok so Python offered a small read on Black but nothing on Light. My mind is almost made up- ketchup777
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D1:In post 3153, ketchup777 wrote: Python, if you offered a read on Light D1 or D2, direct me
Sheeping Blacks 106 in 114
Vibing with JV's 189 in 343 though that was a side thing to their ketchup posts
D2:
Sheeping JV's 1312 in 1325
One thing that gets missed when ISOing us though is that we rely heavily on live chatting with whoever's online to sort people, multi-ISO light and us and you'll notice our timezones miss each other in such a way that we almost never catch each other livePlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more- ketchup777
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In post 268, light_ganski wrote:
because I was still thinking about whether it meant anything beyond "I'm town, but we're barely out of rvs and this is the best reason I have to SR someone". if you'd made the same vote D2, or even 20 pages in, it would have been a much more immediate red flag rather than just a yellow oneIn post 262, Black wrote:
Is there any reason why you didn't say that when you read my reasoning? What do you think about the other votes on you?In post 257, light_ganski wrote:
I don't like to play reactively, I think it makes it harder to develop a consistent understanding of the gamestate when I'm spending too much time worrying about what others are thinking of *me*In post 250, Black wrote: LG not responding to or acknowledging her wagon feels kinda bad
fyi, I thought your reasoning on me was a bit of a reach, but I've seen worse come from town 6 pages into a game
the other two votes seemed very sheep-y which I don't think means *that* much in the first five pages. python, it's very early but the few posts they've made don't feel like scum!python from the one game I've been in with them. koba seems very neutral (like beyond the vote, I've no reason to disbelieve the miller claim, I don't like the traitor soft joke but it's not something I want to read into without more evidence).In post 619, light_ganski wrote:
yeah I've played w python onceIn post 436, DkKoba wrote: town python be big srs mode and scum python constantly cracks jokes and has trouble being serious
but they were scum in that game and their tone feels completely different hereIn post 972, light_ganski wrote:
why are we doing day one setup speculation on the basis of one miller claimIn post 706, usesPython wrote:
This is a setup whereIn post 438, ketchup777 wrote:
why would mafia benefit from knowing who's a miller? if i understand correctly, something like 'miller gunsmith' is possible? or is miller a role not a modifierIn post 21, usesPython wrote:koba making this joke in a way that lets people laugh it off as a joke but would get a miller to say something feels kinda bad
is a realistic possibility that scum have to play around. In that example not claiming miller would be a pretty big scumclaim that scum could easily walk into
like if theres something I'm missing here pls do tell
for myself, Light did reply to some of Python's postsIn post 2515, light_ganski wrote:
Fine, as long as when I flip town you eat humble pie and get rid of ranger immediatelyIn post 2513, usesPython wrote: {Black} - The wildcard
{Political Clout} - The fake cop
{light} - The confscum
We're not willing to kill anyone above the line until everyone below it is dead, if we're wrong on anyone it'd probably be Black in which case it comes down to figuring out if Schum Tao would know to fake Cop from the Disloyal Cop + Cop flips or not
At this point me staying alive is detrimental to the goal of us actually winning because until I flip no one will believe ranger isn't conftown
My final solve is {ranger, black} plus probably hu tao (because I still don't think PC and black can be scum together unless they just... weren't working as a team on day one)- usesPython
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Please also bother to ISO Enchant cause you'll notice they also barely interact with Black or lightPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more- ketchup777
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okey thanksIn post 3154, usesPython wrote:
D1:In post 3153, ketchup777 wrote: Python, if you offered a read on Light D1 or D2, direct me
Sheeping Blacks 106 in 114
Vibing with JV's 189 in 343 though that was a side thing to their ketchup posts
D2:
Sheeping JV's 1312 in 1325
One thing that gets missed when ISOing us though is that we rely heavily on live chatting with whoever's online to sort people, multi-ISO light and us and you'll notice our timezones miss each other in such a way that we almost never catch each other live
I didn't know you could multi-iso, how?- ketchup777
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I just did and came to no Black interactions D2/D3, 5 or 6 Light interactions. Then voting Black off. idkIn post 3156, usesPython wrote: Please also bother to ISO Enchant cause you'll notice they also barely interact with Black or light- ketchup777
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now I iso Black and then this game can be over at last- usesPython
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Scroll down and click "Isolate Users", then checkmark the people you want to multi-ISO and press GoPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more- ketchup777
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Spoiler: Black+Python
dump. Black does bring up Python a lot- ketchup777
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I guess its interesting how much Black mentioned Python, and contrastingly the only time Black seems to think about Enchant (beyond mentioning me voting Arko day 1) is
for Black, who was so careful to distance thoroughly and constantly with Light, never engaging with scum!Enchant seems like an oversightIn post 2798, Black wrote:
Oh wait I knew thatIn post 2790, ketchup777 wrote: in English: Ranger flipped VT. Enchant has since claimed cop. Ranger was probs our only VT.
My brain has been foggy
I guess scum!Enchant could have originally claimed VT to get the actual VT to claim- usesPython
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Black only bothered to talk to light d1, d2 onwards only has 3 light quotes (might be wrong since I control+F'd light_ cause of the light in her title)In post 3163, ketchup777 wrote: I guess its interesting how much Black mentioned Python, and contrastingly the only time Black seems to think about Enchant (beyond mentioning me voting Arko day 1) is
for Black, who was so careful to distance thoroughly and constantly with Light, never engaging with scum!Enchant seems like an oversightIn post 2798, Black wrote:
Oh wait I knew thatIn post 2790, ketchup777 wrote: in English: Ranger flipped VT. Enchant has since claimed cop. Ranger was probs our only VT.
My brain has been foggy
I guess scum!Enchant could have originally claimed VT to get the actual VT to claimPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more- ketchup777
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that's def not truIn post 3164, usesPython wrote:
Black only bothered to talk to light d1, d2 onwards only has 3 light quotes (might be wrong since I control+F'd light_ cause of the light in her title)In post 3163, ketchup777 wrote: I guess its interesting how much Black mentioned Python, and contrastingly the only time Black seems to think about Enchant (beyond mentioning me voting Arko day 1) is
for Black, who was so careful to distance thoroughly and constantly with Light, never engaging with scum!Enchant seems like an oversightIn post 2798, Black wrote:
Oh wait I knew thatIn post 2790, ketchup777 wrote: in English: Ranger flipped VT. Enchant has since claimed cop. Ranger was probs our only VT.
My brain has been foggy
I guess scum!Enchant could have originally claimed VT to get the actual VT to claim- ketchup777
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ohh yeah the twilight princess iso block strat aaahhhhhhh- ketchup777
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honestly as well another thing is an Enchant+Black+Light scumteam coming into massclaim as 2 non-normal cops feels very weird. this could potentially be a speedrun to losing 2 of your 3 mafia members. Python scum world makes so much more sense- ketchup777
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sorry Python, may you dream of sweet dinosaurs tonight or something. I had to go get my toy walrus and zebra to help see me through this one, but I'm hoping for the best. thanks for letting me get to ElO and whichever of you town not self-hammering or anything like that
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All non-town players are now dead, meaning the game ends in a town victory. The surviving players are ketchup777 (Town Cop) and Enchant (Town Cop).
Spoiler: Role PMs
Congratulations to the town of ketchup777, JacksonVirgo, Titus, Ranger, Enchant, Laplacian, Hu Tao, DkKoba, Political Clout, and Doctor Drew for winning Mini Theme 2330!I townread Alianna.
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Role Assignments
ketchup777 -Town Cop
JacksonVirgo -Town Cop
Black -Mafia Godfather
Titus -Town Cop
light_ganski -Mafia Rolecop-Finder Godfather
Ranger -Vanilla Townie
Enchant -Town Cop
usesPython -Mafia Godfather
Laplacian -Town Disloyal Cop
Hu Tao -Town Cop
DkKoba -Town Cop
Political Clout -Town Cop
Doctor Drew -Town Cop
Night 1 Actions
ketchup777 uses cop ability on Enchant.
JacksonVirgo uses cop ability on Enchant.
Titus uses cop ability on Ranger.
Enchant uses cop ability on usesPython.
Hu Tao uses cop ability on Political Clout.
DkKoba uses cop ability on Titus.
Political Clout uses cop ability on Titus.
Doctor Drew uses cop ability on usesPython.
light_ganski uses rolecop-finder ability on Enchant.
Black uses factional kill on DkKoba.
Night 1 Resolution
DkKoba dies.
ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with thetown."
JacksonVirgo receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with thetown."
Titus receives the message, "Your target, Ranger, is aligned with thetown."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, usesPython, is aligned with thetown."
Hu Tao receives the message, "Your target, Political Clout, is aligned with thetown."
DkKoba receives the message, "Your target, Titus, is aligned with thetown."
Political Clout receives the message, "Your target, Titus, is aligned with thetown."
Doctor Drew receives the message, "Your target, usesPython, is aligned with thetown."
light_ganski receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is not a rolecop."
Night 2 Actions
ketchup777 uses cop ability on Hu Tao.
JacksonVirgo uses cop ability on ketchup777.
Enchant uses cop ability on ketchup777.
Hu Tao uses cop ability on JacksonVirgo.
Political Clout uses cop ability on Enchant.
Doctor Drew uses cop ability on Black.
light_ganski uses rolecop-finder ability on Political Clout.
usesPython uses factional kill on JacksonVirgo.
Night 2 Resolution
JacksonVirgo dies.
ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, Hu Tao, is aligned with thetown."
JacksonVirgo receives the message, "Your target, ketchup777, is aligned with thetown."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, ketchup777, is aligned with thetown."
Hu Tao receives the message, "Your target, JacksonVirgo, is aligned with thetown."
Political Clout receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with thetown."
Doctor Drew receives the message, "Your target, Black, is aligned with thetown."
light_ganski receives the message, "Your target, Ranger, is not a rolecop."
Night 3 Actions
ketchup777 uses cop ability on Doctor Drew.
Enchant uses cop ability on Hu Tao.
Hu Tao uses cop ability on Black.
Political Clout uses cop ability on Hu Tao.
Doctor Drew uses cop ability on Political Clout.
Black uses factional kill on Ranger.
Night 3 Resolution
Ranger dies.
ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, Doctor Drew, is aligned with thetown."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, Hu Tao, is aligned with thetown."
Hu Tao receives the message, "Your target, Black, is aligned with thetown."
Political Clout receives the message, "Your target, Hu Tao, is aligned with thetown."
Doctor Drew receives the message, "Your target, Political Clout, is aligned with thetown."
Night 4 Actions
ketchup777 uses cop ability on Political Clout.
Enchant uses cop ability on Doctor Drew.
Hu Tao uses cop ability on Enchant.
Political Clout uses cop ability on Doctor Drew.
Doctor Drew uses cop ability on Enchant.
usesPython uses factional kill on Doctor Drew.
Night 4 Resolution
Doctor Drew dies.
ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, Political Clout, is aligned with thetown."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, Doctor Drew, is aligned with thetown."
Hu Tao receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with thetown."
Political Clout receives the message, "Your target, Doctor Drew, is aligned with thetown."
Doctor Drew receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with thetown."
Night 5 Actions
ketchup777 uses cop ability on usesPython.
Enchant uses cop ability on usesPython.
Hu Tao takes no action.
usesPython uses factional kill on Hu Tao.
Night 5 Resolution
Hu Tao dies.
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