Mini 2332: A Mid-scummer Nights Dream II | GG

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spayhalf's ego post here.

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PITCHFORK DREAM PITCHFORK DREAM

The Pitchfork Dream has been chosen!

MorphTheCat are pure evil. We, the players, wish to inflict harm upon them. We are all out in the village with our pitchforks ready!

It's a chance for revenge!

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The mods will post everything for the next day from their mains. The dreamer may select a theme for the days vote counts. (Pg rated please). Additionally, players may vote the mod. The mod requires 14 votes to eliminate. But this is a very effective form of protest!

[fferyllt]

Aww, I was going to cackle evilly about still having a secret PT to cackle evilly in unlike the townies, but apparently it's also locked and not entirely secret.

VOTE: morph for PT double standards

Your Hereafter thread was part of the game design, not a personal notes PT. I double checked all the threads before making them public (or not), but If I accidentally made anything public I shouldn't have, please let me know (I'll even self-vote!)

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Cabd hasn't had a chance to go over this, so any missing stuff is entirely my fault.

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Moonrise 1

Bad Dreams Secret Reveal: You know how Vi does what Vi does? Well...

Dream Votes:
Forget 11, I just turned the dial to 12! (8): Gimli, Kyoko Kirigiri, Klick, Hu Tao, Aureal, Ydrasse, Silver Ravens, Prism
This slide never seems to end... (2): Von Payne, Chipotle Catgirl,
You know how Vi does what Vi does? Well... (8): Gimli, DragonEater70, Kyoko Klick, Hu Tao, Aureal, Silver Ravens, Sunflower, Prism
Protest is effective, but why have we super glued ourselves to each other, exactly? (3): Von Payne, Ydrasse, Sunflower
I'm 30 years old, why do I still need a car seat? (5): (DragonEater70, Kyoko Kirigiri, Aureal, Silver Ravens, Prism
These sheeple have.. fur? And horns? Wait these are literally sheep people (8): Gimli, Von Payne, DragonEater70, Kyoko Kirigiri, Klick, Hu Tao, Ydrasse, Sunflower

Bad Dreams Discard: Forget 11, I just turned the dial to 12!

Dream Interpreter Reveal (ActionDan): This slide never seems to end...

Dreamer's Dream reveal (Catgirl Chipotle): You know how Vi does what Vi does? Well...

Dreamer's Dream choice (Catgirl Chipotle): These sheeple have.. fur? And horns? Wait these are literally sheep people

Day 1

Von Payne Game Thread Neighborize Choice: Sunflower
Hu Tao is eliminated

Twilight 1

None

Night 1

Game Thread Neighborhood is formed. Von Payne and Sunflower have night chat
DragonEater70 hides behind Aureal. Succeeds and dies.
Kyoko Kirigiri gives Gimli/Enchant Ectoplasmic camera
Bad Dreams' Secret Reveal: I'm Superman!
Sunflower targets Gimli with "In your dreams". Sunflower learns that Gimli is not the current dreamer
Aureal targets Prism with "There is no refuge...". Aureal Learns that Prism is a Deep Sleeper

Moonrise 2

Dream Votes:
My house started flooding while I was watching TV (1): Aureal
Wait so it works on even the parts it doesn't cover? (6): Action Dan, Gimli/Enchant, Von Payne, Kyoko Kirigiri, Sunflower, Prism
I'm superman! (7): Action Dan, Gimli/Enchant, Von Payne, Kyoko Kirigiri, Ydrasse, Silver Ravens, Prism
I sat down to the DND table and cast my favorite spell. (7): ActionDan, Enchant/Gimli, Von Payne, Ydrasse, Silver Ravens, Sunflower, Prism
Doesn't EVERYBODY hate Trigonometry? (1): Aureal
MorphTheCat are pure evil. We, the players, wish to inflict harm upon them. We are all out in the village with our pitchforks ready! (5): Kyoko Kirigiri, Aureal, Ydrasse, Silver Ravens, Sunflower

Bad Dreams Discard: Wait so it works on even the parts it doesn't cover?

Dream Interpreter Reveal (ActionDan): I sat down to the DND table and cast my favorite spell.

Dreamer's Dream reveal (Catgirl Chipotle): I'm Superman!

Dreamer's Dream choice (Catgirl Chipotle): I'm Superman! Chooses Silver Ravens to receive it.

Day 2

Von Payne Game Thread Neighborize Choice: Catgirl Chipotle
Aureal is eliminated

Twilight 2

None

Night 2

Game Thread Neighborhood is activated. Von Payne, Sunflower and Catgirl Chipotle have night chat
Enchant uses the ectoplasmic camera to copy Night 2's Dream (I'm Superman)
Kyoko Kirigiri sends Mysterious Sportscar to Prism. This invention is a commute.
Bad Dreams' Secret Reveal: My house started flooding while I was watching TV
Sunflower targets ActionDan with "In your dreams". Sunflower learns that Action Dan is not the Dreamer
Silver Ravens kills Prism. Succeeds

Moonrise 3

Dream votes:

A bold knight in shining armor came to fight me. Rescue me. Something like that (2): Von Payne, Ydrasse
Up the stairs of the giant tower I went. (3): ActionDan, Kyoko Kirigiri, Sunflower
That disco ball has a hat? And uh, a crack pipe? (4): Actiondan, Kyoko Kirigiri, Ydrasse, Sunflower
I met MrBeast on an electric train to the redwoods, and when we got there we lay down in front of a bulldozer to save a tree (1): Von Payne
My house started flooding while I was watching TV (0)
That is a really, really, REALLY big waterfall. I bet I could meditate under it! (5): Action Dan, Von Payne, Kyoko Kirigiri, Ydrasse, Sunflower

Bad Dreams Discard: That disco ball has a hat? And uh, a crack pipe?

Dream Interpreter Reveal (ActionDan): Up the stairs of the giant tower I went.

Dreamer's Dream reveal (Catgirl Chipotle): Up the stairs of the giant tower I went.

Dreamer's Dream choice (Catgirl Chipotle): Up the stairs of the giant tower I went.

Enchant's copied dream is announced: I'm Superman! Both dreams will be in effect on Night 3 and Enchant gets to choose a recipient of the Superman Dream. Chooses Silver Ravens.

Day 3

Von Payne Game Thread Neighborize Choice: Enchant
Kyoko Kirigiri is eliminated

Twilight 3

None

Night 3

Game Thread Neighborhood is activated. Von Payne, Sunflower and Catgirl Chipotle have night chat
Bad Dreams' Secret Reveal: A bold knight in shining armor came to fight me. Rescue me. Something like that
Sunflower targets Catgirls Chipotle with "In your dreams". Sunflower learns that Catgirl Chipotle is the Dreamer. They have hijacked Moonrise 4's Dream selection
Silver Ravens kills ActionDan. Succeeds

Moonrise 4

Dream votes:

A bold knight in shining armor came to fight me. Rescue me. Something like that (4): Von Payne, Ydrasse, Silver Ravens, Sunflower
The sheer elation of being able to double-jump (4): Von Payne, Ydrasse, Silver Ravens, Sunflower
My house started flooding while I was watching TV (1): Ydrasse
I met MrBeast on an electric train to the redwoods, and when we got there we lay down in front of a bulldozer to save a tree (2): Von Payne, Sunflower
Doesn't EVERYBODY hate Trigonometry? (0)
I won the lottery! But so did everyone else... Except those rich jerks. (1): Silver Ravens

Sunflower Dream Hijack takes place: You know how Vi does what Vi does? Well...

Vi Dream effect: Choose a different dream for the night: Forget 11, I just turned the dial to 12! This dream gives the recipient an activated double vote.

Sunflower chooses Silver Ravens to be the next dreamer (effective Moonrise 5) and gives Silver Ravens the activated double vote which can only be used on Day 4.

Day 4

Von Payne Game Thread Neighborize Choice: No choice made, so their choice is randed to Ydrasse.
Silver Ravens activates their double vote when Chipotle Catgirls is at E-1.
Chipotle Catgirls are eliminated.

Twilight 4

None

Night 4

Game Thread Neighborhood is activated. Von Payne, Sunflower, Enchant, and Ydrasse have night chat. Silver Ravens is also erroneously added to the night chat.

Bad Dreams' Secret Reveal: That is a really, really, REALLY big waterfall. I bet I could meditate under it!

Silver Ravens uses "I'm Superman" reporter ability to have the mods post the following in the game thread: "Who the hell is not voting for fast night? Your blatant ignorance of the current game state is causing the game to slowly devolve into some low quality pokemon tier list discussion (Bulbasaur is not even Tier A SMH)"

Silver Ravens kills Ydrasse. Ydrasse's "Why can't I keep my eyes open?" ability is activated and she falls deeply asleep in her tower (modified commute, activates when targeted for any action by the Bad Dreams. Takes effect that night and she doesn't return to the game thread until Night 5. She is able to privately vote for the dreams and elimination while in her tower.

Moonrise 5

I caught the hail Mary pass, but even that might not be enough... (2): Silver Ravens, Sunflower
I'm 30 years old, why do I still need a car seat? (2): Enchant, Gimli
Doesn't EVERYBODY hate Trigonometry? (2): Silver Ravens, Sunflower
My house started flooding while I was watching TV (0)
I gardened so well that the gods literally turned my thumb bright green! (2): Enchant, Gimli
That is a really, really, REALLY big waterfall. I bet I could meditate under it! (2): Enchant, Gimli

The votes are tied, so the hidden non-random tie-breaker comes into effect. Silver Ravens' and Sunflower's votes each count as 2. So Hail Mary and Trigonometry have 4 votes total

Bad Dreams Discard: None

Dreamer's Dream reveal (Silver Ravens): I caught the hail Mary pass, but even that might not be enough...

Dreamer's Dream choice (Catgirl Chipotle): Doesn't EVERYBODY hate Trigonometry?: Modulo 6 parity cop. Silver Ravens gives the parity cop to Sunflower

Day 5

Von Payne Game Thread Neighborize Choice: No more living players to choose from
Silver Ravens are eliminated
The Dreamer ability goes to Enchant, the last potential Dreamer in the game.

Night 5

Game Thread Neighborhood is activated. Von Payne, Sunflower, Enchant, and Ydrasse have night chat.

Bad Dreams' Secret Reveal: I won the lottery! But so did everyone else... Except those rich jerks.

Sunflower kills Enchant. Succeeds.

With no potential Dreamer alive, there is no Moonrise 5

Day 6

Von Payne Game Thread Neighborize Choice: No more living players to choose from
Von Payne are eliminated.

The

Bad Dreams

win.

[fferyllt]

I want to thank all of you for playing! We both enjoyed running this game for you!

The first moonrise/day/night were very rough around the edges (and in the middle, too). We rushed the design a little and there was one key disconnect in my understanding of what was changing from the first Mid-scummer Night's Dream: The order of events in the phases. I think most of the introduced problems were to the Bad Dream's detriment, but it impacted both teams.

We took a lot of the first game's postgame feedback under advisement and think it resulted in a more balanced game.

Some of the differences (and some related questions that came to me as I watched you play):

• The dream picking process was confined to its own phase, allowing the day phase to take place more traditionally with most of the focus on reads and elimination votes. Was 24 hours of discussion and voting, and up to 24 hours for the Dreamer and the Dream Interpreter to make their choices enough? Too rushed?
  
• In the first game, Town PRs were focused on manipulating the dreams and the dreams were mostly about passing out one shot abilities by the day's chosen Dreamer. In this game the Town PRs were fairly well split between dream-related and thwarting bad dream night actions, and we made a Dreamer role who would remain the dreamer as long as they were alive and the Bad Dreams didn't identify and hijack them.
  
• We went with a longer night phase because the Bad Dreams had more decisions to make, including picking a dream to reveal privately to them at the start of the Moonrise phase. I'd like feedback on whether that was helpful to the Bad Dreams. I'm pretty sure the Dream Voyagers weren't exactly thrilled with 72 hour nights.

If you have any feedback you'd like us to take into account for possible future Mid-scummer Night's Dreams please share!