In post 608, awesomeming327 wrote:
i do not think it makes sense for scum!Black to switch up her opinion on me so suddenly
why doesn't it make sense?
it would've taken no effort to get rid of me at all and in my opinion she would've been one of the least suspicious on the wagon, so there wasn't really any reason for her to get off if she's not genuinely solving
ofc the alternative explanation would be that black always intended to move off of ming if possible, and black ranger was the easiest target when she couldn't get enough traction on morose
I need to think about this
Are you considering ming and I as partners here? I'm confused
Yes, potentially.
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"The philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point, however, is to change it".
In post 663, OopsieDaisy wrote:
If Ming is scum however there is clear scum motive to change the gamestate, a leading town member just plonked a vote onto your scumbuddy who's been under pressure for a good chunk of the day and could get wagoned, so we look to see who did change things up in reaction to that and black/thomith pop up.
^this is why btw
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"The philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point, however, is to change it".
In post 631, OopsieDaisy wrote:
And I'm assuming the LG read is that you think this is a gambit where both are scum and Light thinks she can ride this to the end despite the fact in those worlds she's a cop not getting shot by the mafia.
Also. There is a greater than 50% chance we have a serial killer in play so this gambit would prob just get me killed by them anyway if I were scum!ganski
I am fully expecting the cold, firm embrace of death tonight, and my one comfort will be to know that as I am dragged into that eternal abyss that I have doomed a confscum to the same grisly fate
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"The philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point, however, is to change it".
In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:
I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
Yea I guess my opinion is different cause I thought Black Ranger was just a good lim anyways, super apathetic towards the game and kinda unwilling to contribute so wasn't super sad to see em go. Like I think that lim was still valuable to town, so then Black going for that mislim over a Ming mislim doesn't compute. The incentive of less info doesn't feel worth the push imo.
In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
This feels like Drew is trying to position himself to fade me regardless of Ming's alignment
In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:
I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
Yea I guess my opinion is different cause I thought Black Ranger was just a good lim anyways, super apathetic towards the game and kinda unwilling to contribute so wasn't super sad to see em go. Like I think that lim was still valuable to town, so then Black going for that mislim over a Ming mislim doesn't compute. The incentive of less info doesn't feel worth the push imo.
I 100% disagree, for basically the reasons you described about BR, no one can look at that mis lim and wonder if it was driven by town or scum since they basically didn't do anything and wasn't helping town at all.
Like, you are making my point here
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
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In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
This feels like Drew is trying to position himself to fade me regardless of Ming's alignment
Ok, why is Daisy really trying hard to clear you if Ming is town then?
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 596, halfasleep wrote:
i don't see any reason to disbelieve light's claim here. i'm currently likely to vote for ming again if csf is nightkilled barring anything major changing my mind tonight.
Hi halfasleep, would you mind taking a quick skim of the posts again because it seems like the only things you remember from this game are the cop claim and me!
hi ming, who do you think would be a better second-choice lim over you here? the way i see it, i think you're most likely to flip red after csf. if you do flip green, i think the amount of the game that's centred on your potential elimination so far means that's a more informative flip than any other potential mislim right now. does the hypothetical town!you disagree with this?
I think there's a chance Drew just thinks I'm scum and is molding everything to that world view but I don't understand why Drew wouldn't consider the possibility that I changed my ming read after ming did something townie. That's like Mafia 101
In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
This feels like Drew is trying to position himself to fade me regardless of Ming's alignment
Ok, why is Daisy really trying hard to clear you if Ming is town then?
I'm not sure really. What does this have to do with you thinking I'm scum regardless of Ming's alignment?
In post 714, Black wrote:
I think there's a chance Drew just thinks I'm scum and is molding everything to that world view but I don't understand why Drew wouldn't consider the possibility that I changed my ming read after ming did something townie. That's like Mafia 101
Also Mafia 101 is pushing your buddy until they 'appear' to do something townie so you can move off them onto a mislim without much questions from others.
And conveniently onto a lurking slot that doesn't give much pushback from others as well.
And yes, I just do think you are scum
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
This feels like Drew is trying to position himself to fade me regardless of Ming's alignment
Ok, why is Daisy really trying hard to clear you if Ming is town then?
I'm not sure really. What does this have to do with you thinking I'm scum regardless of Ming's alignment?
I think you are scum with either Ming or Daisy, but I would seriously doubt that Daisy and Ming are scum together
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
This feels like Drew is trying to position himself to fade me regardless of Ming's alignment
Ok, why is Daisy really trying hard to clear you if Ming is town then?
I'm not sure really. What does this have to do with you thinking I'm scum regardless of Ming's alignment?
I think you are scum with either Ming or Daisy, but I would seriously doubt that Daisy and Ming are scum together
In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:
I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
Yea I guess my opinion is different cause I thought Black Ranger was just a good lim anyways, super apathetic towards the game and kinda unwilling to contribute so wasn't super sad to see em go. Like I think that lim was still valuable to town, so then Black going for that mislim over a Ming mislim doesn't compute. The incentive of less info doesn't feel worth the push imo.
I 100% disagree, for basically the reasons you described about BR, no one can look at that mis lim and wonder if it was driven by town or scum since they basically didn't do anything and wasn't helping town at all.
Like, you are making my point here
So you believe that a town ming elim going through is a lot worse for Black over a town BR elim. My argument against that is my feeling at the time (would prolly need to go back and have a proper look at some point) was that Black's progression on Ming did feel really natural, and Black would've had the fact that she'd moved away from the lim in her defence. Whereas with the BR push the defence is only that lots of people agreed it was a good lim. I think in the town ming flips n0 world black is under less attack today not more.
But yea, you disagree with this and believe it was a mafia movement from Black to get a no info lim through so I think we're just gonna talk in circles if we keep going. I'm likely gonna defend Black if Ming flips town, and I've done my best to outline why.
Tho saying that:
In post 628, Black wrote:
One of LG/Daisy is probably scum with CSF. Maybe both but I don't think the game is that easy
In post 632, Black wrote:
Actually scratch the LG read I had a bad brain fart
Yo Black if you think I'm probably scum with CSF why haven't you made any attempts to convince other people of this? Like surely if you believe Ming is town and you see me posturing around a Ming flip alarm bells should be ringing.
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