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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:14 pm

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Prevent mania mode activated
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:16 pm

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In post 248, Roden wrote:
In post 247, Gyphx wrote:
In post 225, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 173, Taly wrote: haha, night :)

oh trust me, there's plenty more stuff up my sleeve

pedit

In post 171, DArby wrote:
In post 167, Taly wrote: i asked you if you thought there was anything relevant that has happened so far outside of
pink/hu
, i dont think i got an answer for this
Such an odd question.

Nothing else has happened so we should speed lim page 7?

VOTE: Taly

P-edit. @greedy is this a bit I don’t understand again? How much irony do I need to study to play this? Either way I find this not town indicative

P-edit 2: I still don’t like this interaction.
ill break this down

1. i give a read and a vote on
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2.
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is telling me not to commit
3. i made assumption that
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had something else he thought was worth considering
- if i was going to not commit to my first read in the game, i needed a reason
4. i pushed to get my answer from
greedy
because i didnt want to feel like there was any deflection from what i was trying to learn
5.
greedy
gave me satisfactory reasons behind why he didnt want me to commit
6. i have a read on
greedy


my initial question above had a purpose, and it served

i think again ur still lying or contradicting ur self. what about ur reads on pink and greedy?
why are now sheeping me. damn i got 2 sheeps noiw fuck im dying tonight
To be clear, i find it manipulative how Grandpa is avoiding saying directly he susses Taly, and rather takes a pretty roundabout way of saying all this

This also pinged my "performative things to say" radar, like, wooo look at me i'm afraid of being nightkilled !

VOTE: grandpaMo
I'm feeling the same way

I'm somewhat hesitant to scum read Mo for that though, it's been awhile since I've played with him but I remember him playing in a performative way regardless of alignment

Do you feel that he's being disingenuous?
well, yeah i do, i seriously doubt someone is worried about being nightkilled for the sole reason of having 2 people think the same stuff as them
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:17 pm

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Could you elaborate on what you mean by him usually playing like that?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:18 pm

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In post 250, Taly wrote: Prevent mania mode activated
Nah go on be maniac i wanna watch the fireworks
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:19 pm

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Hold on, let me look up a couple games
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:41 pm

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Town!Mo
His ISO is a bit long so feel free to just skim, but this is a game where I was scum and used his playstyle against him to get him mis-elim'd.

Scum!Mo
Another somewhat long ISO, but this was a game where he took advantage of how people view his playstyle to slip past without suspicion and secure a win.

Mo regardless of alignment plays very chaotically and brashly. He'll speak his mind even when it's something obviously anti-town like discussing PRs, and sometimes his thoughts get jumbled and are easy to misinterpret. He can have a self-centered view on the game as well, which I believe is more likely to come from a town perspective. I think he also exaggerates a lot with the things he says, which is why he comes off as performative.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:49 pm

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Noticed some interesting stuff when comparing those ISOs but i think i'll wait for more Mo!posts before elaborating
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:04 pm

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In post 156, Taly wrote: i want to hear the reasons against flipping
pink's
slot
In post 157, GreedyBanger wrote: We flip a slot blind with nobody to claim for it in a potentially PR heavy game
In post 158, GreedyBanger wrote: They havnt actually been very scummy
In post 159, GreedyBanger wrote: It's page 7 and we have not heard from a couple players at all
In post 160, Taly wrote: i can understand
hu's
tonal read, and with
pink
gone ive lost the key item to understand the other side of that interaction
i also think this whole general interaction between taly and greedy is either S/S or T/T
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:05 pm

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didn't quote everything for briverty's sake
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:46 pm

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So I read Taly as taking a deliberately bad position and asking me about it as a sorting tool at the time. However after sleeping on it it seems like SUCH a bad position that it really has very limited sorting potential. Man does not endorse shooting self in head tells you very little about the man.

Another suggestion for what this could have been is some fake hustle/sorting. Taly provides the obvious dilemma, I provide an easy to reach obvious conclusion on it, taly now says she has a read on me and encourages me to direct action. Taly and I now have a connection tempered by rhetorical combat and she can back my next play to solidify that bond.

Does Taly do this kind of sorting as town people who know her? Cause to me it seems way too likely to give false positives and get me townread for no actual substance.

UNVOTE:

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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:55 pm

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Well that's an unexpected post

I do agree that your previous conversation was weirdly mindmeldy, like either it was 2 townies finding each other like townies sometimes do, or it was part of some grander plan where you're basically working together, this 180 turn kinda makes sense in a S/S world ? idk, talk me through it, why is it scum posting and not just bad posting?

I am not too familiar with Taly meta so i couldn't answer you on that otherwise
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:04 pm

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In post 260, Gyphx wrote:
idk, talk me through it, why is it scum posting and not just bad posting?
The overall ability to do the sorting gambit as well as general Taly vibes means she seems competent to me and I think if its just badposting its really bad posting.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:06 pm

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I also think in general scum get paid off when taking very contrarian positions especially regarding mechanical stuff early day 1. They are unlikely to have any pressure from it turn into a lim so early and then their lack of mechanical understanding becomes a reason they are alive later. They also just get townread for "Scum wouldn't do this" reasons.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:43 am

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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:44 am

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otherwise not sure i agree with what you're saying on taly, but i've usually found that these "you shouldn't be townreading me" stances come from town
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:49 am

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Then my work here is done :evil:
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:56 am

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you truly are evil incarnate
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:31 am

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i have modified the wording of a rule in my ruleset to be more accurate to my initial intentions and to align it more closely with site rules:

this rule:
do not engage in trust tells or other out-of-game influences (such as bets, public musings on replacing out, public accusations of rule violations, etc).
now reads as:
do not engage in trust tells or other out-of-game influences (such as bets, public musings on potentially replacing out, public accusations of rule violations, etc).
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:38 am

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votecount 1.06


Taly (3) - DArby, KayJayQueue, GreedyBanger
Immortal Technique (2) - Hu Tao, ssbm_Kyouko
skibidi rizzler in ohio (1) - Roden
rabbitrhino (1) - GrandpaMo
GrandpaMo (1) - Gyphx

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(5) - Hypershock, rabbitrhino, skibidi rizzler in ohio, Taly, Immortal Technique

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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:44 am

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In post 259, GreedyBanger wrote: So I read Taly as taking a deliberately bad position and asking me about it as a sorting tool at the time. However after sleeping on it it seems like SUCH a bad position that it really has very limited sorting potential. Man does not endorse shooting self in head tells you very little about the man.

Another suggestion for what this could have been is some fake hustle/sorting. Taly provides the obvious dilemma, I provide an easy to reach obvious conclusion on it, taly now says she has a read on me and encourages me to direct action. Taly and I now have a connection tempered by rhetorical combat and she can back my next play to solidify that bond.

Does Taly do this kind of sorting as town people who know her? Cause to me it seems way too likely to give false positives and get me townread for no actual substance.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Taly
This is in no reality how I think about mafia
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:45 am

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In post 257, Gyphx wrote:
In post 156, Taly wrote: i want to hear the reasons against flipping
pink's
slot
In post 157, GreedyBanger wrote: We flip a slot blind with nobody to claim for it in a potentially PR heavy game
In post 158, GreedyBanger wrote: They havnt actually been very scummy
In post 159, GreedyBanger wrote: It's page 7 and we have not heard from a couple players at all
In post 160, Taly wrote: i can understand
hu's
tonal read, and with
pink
gone ive lost the key item to understand the other side of that interaction
i also think this whole general interaction between taly and greedy is either S/S or T/T
I don't like this implication
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"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:48 am

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I think my posts are being deliberately misconstrued by multiple people and I'm not dealing with the brain rot of engaging with it
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:50 am

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In post 260, Gyphx wrote: Well that's an unexpected post

I do agree that your previous conversation was weirdly mindmeldy, like either it was 2 townies finding each other like townies sometimes do, or it was part of some grander plan where you're basically working together, this 180 turn kinda makes sense in a S/S world ? idk, talk me through it, why is it scum posting and not just bad posting?

I am not too familiar with Taly meta so i couldn't answer you on that otherwise
So I could ne S/S with two people... very articulate
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:55 am

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In post 272, Taly wrote:
In post 260, Gyphx wrote: Well that's an unexpected post

I do agree that your previous conversation was weirdly mindmeldy, like either it was 2 townies finding each other like townies sometimes do, or it was part of some grander plan where you're basically working together, this 180 turn kinda makes sense in a S/S world ? idk, talk me through it, why is it scum posting and not just bad posting?

I am not too familiar with Taly meta so i couldn't answer you on that otherwise
So I could ne S/S with two people... very articulate
i am trying to take a more methodical approach with this game yes, is that an issue?
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:57 am

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In post 247, Gyphx wrote:
In post 225, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 173, Taly wrote: haha, night :)

oh trust me, there's plenty more stuff up my sleeve

pedit

In post 171, DArby wrote:
In post 167, Taly wrote: i asked you if you thought there was anything relevant that has happened so far outside of
pink/hu
, i dont think i got an answer for this
Such an odd question.

Nothing else has happened so we should speed lim page 7?

VOTE: Taly

P-edit. @greedy is this a bit I don’t understand again? How much irony do I need to study to play this? Either way I find this not town indicative

P-edit 2: I still don’t like this interaction.
ill break this down

1. i give a read and a vote on
pink

2.
greedy
is telling me not to commit
3. i made assumption that
greedy
had something else he thought was worth considering
- if i was going to not commit to my first read in the game, i needed a reason
4. i pushed to get my answer from
greedy
because i didnt want to feel like there was any deflection from what i was trying to learn
5.
greedy
gave me satisfactory reasons behind why he didnt want me to commit
6. i have a read on
greedy


my initial question above had a purpose, and it served

i think again ur still lying or contradicting ur self. what about ur reads on pink and greedy?
why are now sheeping me. damn i got 2 sheeps noiw fuck im dying tonight
To be clear, i find it manipulative how Grandpa is avoiding saying directly he susses Taly, and rather takes a pretty roundabout way of saying all this

This also pinged my "performative things to say" radar, like, wooo look at me i'm afraid of being nightkilled !

VOTE: grandpaMo
because i dont think taly is susyet hhaha im waiting for darby/greedy interactions like i have repeated multiple times.
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