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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:32 am

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In post 144, Dunnstral wrote: No you are not following that right. I never even said the word hitler so it is weird that you figured that this was what I meant.

I said if Immortal Technique is a fascist, they could have received two blue cards and one red card, and then claimed receiving one blue card and two red cards. This would support you then receiving three red cards, as there would be few blue cards left in the deck.

Vengaboys actively chose a liberal card and it is quite likely that they indeed received one blue card and one red card. So that feels like the best choice if we are reelecting someone - which I support over going for more info at this point. If we enact more liberal policies we put more pressure on the fascists to make a move.
I feel like Dunn is acting like a fellow comrade here, I do understand the paranoia about no one knowing what cards I actually had to choose from(though I do promise it was 2 reds and a blue).

But I agree that Venga is much more cleared than I am at this point(especially in my eyes), and would be a good pick for president.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:36 am

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I don't think venga is very cleared at all. It's awfully early to out yourself as fascist even if only to one player by picking F that turn. As Hitler they would have even less incentive.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:39 am

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Its also why I don't think hiding an L as a liberal in your position would make sense IT, because of how little it clears the choosing player. I'd rather pass 2 Ls and get the cred.

All of this together makes me think everyone is telling the truth so far and the deck will bear that out or there is shenaniganry at foot.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:43 am

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So who do you think the chancellor should be?
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:46 am

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From my POV I want DE70 to pick unled because they haven't had to make a choice yet. In general I guess you play it down the line?
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:47 am

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In post 151, GreedyBanger wrote: I don't think venga is very cleared at all. It's awfully early to out yourself as fascist even if only to one player by picking F that turn. As Hitler they would have even less incentive.
That is a good point, probably a bit too surface level of me to clear them in my mind
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:50 am

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I'd also like to point out the next player who is given a choice and picks F is not necessarily fascist. I think if I was the next chancellor given a choice I would pick F and use the investigate power on someone who has already been president
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:52 am

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I think you are pushing very pro-fascist ideas and are very likely to be a fascist yourself as a result
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:53 am

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ye i wasn't gonna say anything because i like being TRd but fascists would probably be incentivized to seem liberal early on lol

i think IT is clearer than me because statistically its likely that he did in fact get two red and one blue. but that's not 100% either. i do think he's prob liberal tho
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:54 am

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In post 156, GreedyBanger wrote: I'd also like to point out the next player who is given a choice and picks F is not necessarily fascist. I think if I was the next chancellor given a choice I would pick F and use the investigate power on someone who has already been president
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:56 am

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that mechanic is (presumably) built in to compensate town if forced to go fascist, but if presented with a liberal and fascist card, liberal is clearly the mechanically correct choice
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:56 am

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i will admit i've never played this before but thats my take
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:59 am

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i'd be down to go again but DE70 isn't "actively townreading" me so i doubt that'll happen
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:48 am

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In post 160, Vengaboys wrote: that mechanic is (presumably) built in to compensate town if forced to go fascist, but if presented with a liberal and fascist card, liberal is clearly the mechanically correct choice
I think so?

Like, that's how I would play it.....and have when I have played this irl(well when I have been a comrade that is lol)
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:57 am

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Once 3 fascist policies are enacted, the fascists will instantly win if hitler is ever elected chancellor.

But they can't win like that before that point. So let's pass liberal policies. The fascists will have to make a move. Once there are more liberal policies in play, there is a lot more pressure to make more obvious looking moves to enact fascist policies.

Liberal's voting in fascist policies brings us closer to losing immediately, and now nobody trusts you so the cop is useless and we are probably going to make hitler chancellor
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:58 am

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Likewise, if a president is given two blue cards and a red card, it may be tempting to toss a blue card for "info" to see what the other person does.

Don't even do that. Just send them both blue cards and force a liberal policy. Put the pressure on the fascists. We will get more info when they have to make moves later.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:01 am

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I wasn't advocating for it just saying it might be an option. Now we have spoken about it and nobody has plausible deniability.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:03 am

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You said you would do it
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:16 am

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Oh I guess I was misdavocating for it then. Been posting distracted, apologies. I should be the investigation now when it procs though
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:43 am

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as there is 24 hours left for the nomination and DragonEater70 hasn't posted in a while, poking DragonEater70.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:56 am

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Hi I will get to this in a few hours sorry

A few questions for now:

@Greedy why did you choose me as chancellor?
@Dunn who would you want me to choose and why?
@IT would you be good with me choosing Venga?
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:18 am

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In post 170, DragonEater70 wrote:
@Greedy why did you choose me as chancellor?
You were playing a game in a controversial way but not in a way that I thought was scum sided or had scum incentives. Basically I wanted to sort you as town quickly so I could use your analysis more.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:34 am

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In post 137, Dunnstral wrote: I would rather choose Vengaboys as chancellor again. It's not impossible that Immortal Technique is a fascist who received two blue cards and a red card and lied about what they received.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:36 am

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I think I already said I wouldn't mind Venga again
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:31 am

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