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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:14 pm

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In post 1948, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1868, yessiree wrote:
In post 1863, M3gan Thee Stallion wrote:
In post 1805, Thomith wrote:
In post 1727, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Also Cook said she'd update the last VC but hasn't yet, I'm currently E-2 I think and don't really want to claim, so what can we get done?
I find it hard to believe that people didn't already know kyouko was claiming a PR after this post.
and yet you didn't move your vote. why?
crazy you just jolted my brain of a possible gamma + thomith team
This suggestion just makes me blue screen, I think our interaction where Thomith pushes me to give more reads just makes negative sense if we’re partnered.

Btw why are people overlooking Upwards? I wanted to maybe hold this for longer but before we dive too deep into solves, I feel like pink talked about Upwards in ways that are in line with what a positive partner interaction perhaps should be.
(For reference, positive partner interaction is meant to be a shorthand for essentially the opposite of distancing/bussing)
it makes sense to put upwards in some sort of POE

I think I like most of his posting in this game though, he is doing a lot of legwork
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:18 pm

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If he actually linked the game in his sig, I would tell you to click to it (spoiler alert: Upwards was scum in that one)
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:25 pm

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thats fine, I'll trust your word for it

unwilling to start metadiving people tbh

gamma, is your top suspect numen? does it have anything to do with black posting?
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:35 pm

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my top suspect is honestly Upwards, but I haven't seen much to convince me not to stay on numen
ftr overnight I decided that my initial leaning on yess (that being a TR) was probably right; my yess suspicion was really just a reach so I wasn't completely directionless so close to dl
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:37 pm

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I do dig your upwards suspicious, I think he was my first suspicion in this game

I won't have any time tomorrow, friday or saturday, but I'm back to this thread either saturday night or sunday morning to work on this. I'll dig into upwards posting and upwards/pink dynamics particularly

@DE: is townlocking gamma a horrible thing?
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:34 pm

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VC 2.2


numen (3) : Gamma Emerald, Elements, Upwards
yessiree (1) : Aureal

Not voting (6) :DragonEater70, yessirree, M3gan Thee Stallion, ssbm_Kyouko, numen, Thomith

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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:43 pm

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GE how are your reads other than numen scum
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:44 pm

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In post 1954, M3gan Thee Stallion wrote: @DE: is townlocking gamma a horrible thing?
Kinda. I am townleaning her but I was also townlening Pink.
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:30 pm

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In post 1956, DragonEater70 wrote: GE how are your reads other than numen scum
Upwards scum, yess town, thomith town
still operating under the assumption that scum didn't bus, so either I'm exactly correct or I've cleared someone incorrectly.
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:20 pm

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Numen I swear to god I don't understand why you replaced in if you are not going to play at all. Please do not replace into games if you are not going to make a minimal effort to play them.
I get that reading an entire game is hard, and nowadays I very rarely read the entire game when I replace in, but that doesn't mean you cannot engage with everything that happens after your replace in, and do SOME backreading.
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:26 pm

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In post 1948, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Btw why are people overlooking Upwards? I wanted to maybe hold this for longer but before we dive too deep into solves, I feel like pink talked about Upwards in ways that are in line with what a positive partner interaction perhaps should be.
(For reference, positive partner interaction is meant to be a shorthand for essentially the opposite of distancing/bussing)
In post 1953, Gamma Emerald wrote: my top suspect is honestly Upwards, but I haven't seen much to convince me not to stay on numen
Come on then. We don’t need to wait for Numen before we can discuss my alignment. He doesn’t seem to care about the votes on him anyways. UNVOTE:

If I’m your top suspect, talk about me. I’m confident I can show you you’re wrong.
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:36 pm

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In post 1948, Gamma Emerald wrote: This suggestion just makes me blue screen, I think our interaction where Thomith pushes me to give more reads just makes negative sense if we’re partnered.
im lazy, can you show me where he pushed u for more reads?
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:45 pm

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In post 889, Thomith wrote:
In post 885, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 795, KayJayQueue wrote:
In post 793, Pink Tomatoes wrote:
In post 783, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 780, KayJayQueue wrote: Also, Gimli is in a hydra. It feels a bit disrespectful to only interact with and acknowledge one head of a hydra while discounting the other.
I have interacted with M3gan whenever she's posted. Since she hasn't posted recently, I have recently interacted with Gimli. I don't see how it's disrespectful.
yeah just butting in to say I agree singling out one head of a Hydra, assuming you don’t completely ignore the other one, is fine by me. come solve me!

~ketchup
So when I make a reads list am I supposed to have a list consisting of ketchup, c-worl, m3gan AND Gimli? wtf is the point of a hydra if we are reading these as individuals? It’s 2 slots only.
I often will have 2 individual reads on the heads of a hydra that I will combine to form a full read on the slot.

For the record, my MTS read is not really one of those. Instead, it’s based on something Gimli said nigh-exclusively.
Do you have any reads yet? I briefly checked your ISO and didn't see anything really concrete? (I see yess town, Locke scum, MTS town.)
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:59 pm

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In post 1443, Thomith wrote: I feel like Gammas interactions with me in 902 908 988 seems weird, and pinged me when the interaction was first happening. I feel as if Gamma doesn't have too many reads, and the reads she does have seem to be more common ones. The reluctance to share those reads pinged me as a little weird here, which is why I'm feeling worse about Gamma than I did before.
there's this i guess which does help dispel the thomith/gamma partner theory
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:03 pm

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At risk of incriminating myself, I legitimately don't see how because bussing exists?
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:09 pm

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i mean it's still possible, i personally dont think it likely atm
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:44 am

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Rereading a bit I feel better about Aureal and worse about yessiree, but my nr 1 theory right now is Pink Tomatoes + MST + Dragoneater. With MST very likely being PR.
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:59 am

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In post 1966, Upwards wrote: Rereading a bit I feel better about Aureal and worse about yessiree, but my nr 1 theory right now is Pink Tomatoes + MST + Dragoneater. With MST very likely being PR.
can you expand on this? how are you making sense of d1 when this is the scum team, and how did you reach this conclusion? whats pinging you about me and DE, the interaction we have with each other and the ones we had with pink on d1?

I'm very confused with this solve but I'll save judgement for after you explain yourself.
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:52 am

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Oh, I assure you it’s quite based… maybe. Still work in progress after all.

I shall expand on this right after I’m finished with my Spaghetti Carbonara with extra Olives, Garlic and Black Pepper. And Strawberry juice, hmm delicious.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:14 am

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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:07 am

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So let’s start with the easiest theory alright:
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With a flipped Town Backup Neighbor it doesn’t take much fantasy to call you some sort of Neighborizer role. I’ve seen that role be Scum before, it might be a reason why KayJay was a priority target over Kyouko ( although there’s also the very natural reason that more people were sus of Kyouko of course ), and a Neighborizer actually being Scum does feel fitting for a game like this that maybe wants to confuse its players a bit.
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:21 am

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so part 1 of your suspicion on me is..............................

mech spec

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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:22 am

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I'm sorry

I'll let you post and let people talk about it and let the game breathe without my input for a few days now, bye
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:36 am

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Linking you and Dragoneater as Scum is a bit more complicated, and I might very well be wrong with that theory, but I scumread you both individually and think it could work as a team.

So how am I making sense of d1 in that world? Well, you three would have realized of course that leading a wagon on Pink Tomatoes at the very end of d1 would result in tons of towncred. Notably you were the one who called Pinks progression bonkers, but only after Kyoukos claim did Dragoneater switch votes ( from yessiree, not from Kyouko ) and a lot of votes instanly followed, including yours.

This leads to the old question if Bussing d1 is ever worth it, but I’d think if there’s a Scumteam brave enough to try it that could make it work it would probably look like this one. And indeed, the start of d2 gave me more reason for suspicion which I’ll talk about in a bit.
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:00 am

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Upwards please explain how you got to scumreading me. With all the overwhelming evidence in favor of me being town.
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