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Post Post #3150 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:36 pm

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In post 3147, Ame wrote:
In post 2495, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1921, implosion wrote: I don't really want to give a fine-grained reads list right now because I don't want scum to know who to shoot and my d1 reads shouldn't be sheeped if i die
this might a good post to generalize my issue here
I was probably one of the minority of player who hadn't really been townreading tatiana like the rest, and I think more people being open about their reads might have actually helped me form more townreads than I've been able to. This sort of "playing behind a smokescreen" bullshit just feels like a needless handicap; implosion apparently did this to protect tatiana but she got killed anyway, so it was fucking pointless!
This one? I had no idea this was a response to my question. It's an Implosion quote, and I was looking for what you referring to about Tatiana:
In post 1962, Gamma Emerald wrote: I'm talking about the whole "having one read but pretending another thing", which Tatiana is explicitly doing but I feel like a lot of people are doing it subtly
(thank you for taking the time to pull it up regardless)
Okay, I will look into finding tatiana posts that I feel like represent that.
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Post Post #3151 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:46 pm

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As for this nonsense regarding "if Tangion is scum, who is partner #3?":

First off, that's putting the cart before the horse. Let's focus on catching scum #2 before we focus on catching scum #3.

Second, I can think of
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a.)
Something_Smart. He poked at both Black and Tangion on Day One, and has basically left them alone since. He did not help eliminate Black on Day Two whatsoever. And he is actively defending Tangion right now.

b.)
Dannflor. Dannflor is also actively defending Tangion. He votes for him, but finds reason to jump off again. His Day One play where there was a big argument town-vs-town argument between myself and IT he played ideally: going after the attacker, so that if IT was eliminated, it could lead to a string of miseliminations. On Day One, he placed a fourth vote on Black in -- but immediately retracted it in his very next post, , which is a nice subtle way to deescalate a wagon on a partner. His early Day Two vote on Black in left open the option to leave, which he did to vote for Tangion in . He pushes Tangion for just a bit (which I can read as "start posting more, partner") before switching to C-Worl in . He then only lays down a hammer on Black (KayJayQueue) when the wagon was essentially a foregone conclusion.

c.)
Pooky. I think Tangion's lack of a clear direction could easily be because he was stuck with two almost ineffectual partners who were not giving him a lot of advice to work with. Although I try not to read into people replacing out, C-Worl replaced out after watching Black get wagoned and eliminated, and may have been partially from despair at the gamestate (including being partnered with Tangion).

If Pooky replaced scum and is partnered with Tangion, I expect the Mafia QT would read something like, "we got this, Pooks has your back, leave everything to me" without a lot of direct advice. Pooks started off the day pushing Tangion, but has since made it clear he is actually pushing to eliminated either Something_Smart or Dannflor.

d.)
gob. I don't think much has to be said here. gob claims he thought Black was scummy but when push comes to shove, he didn't actually vote or help to get her eliminated. He similarly seems to be doing his damnedest to curtail the wagon on Tangion. He also seemed incredibly focused on Tangion for much of the game for no clear reason. This would be another situation where Tangion would likely be going off of very little actionable advice in the Mafia QT.

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And that's literally just off-the-cuff. If I were trying to go out of my way to find potential partners, I probably could. But there are multiple folks who I could easily see as a third in a {Black, Tangion, X} team.
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Post Post #3152 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:49 pm

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In post 3149, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3148, petroleumjelly wrote: There is no situation where we are going to somehow mysteriously make scum have to wonder, "gosh, what power role he could he POSSIBLY BE!?"
...There is one. If Gamma is scum. Then scum know there are two PR's left (presumably JK and IC), but they won't know which one Tangion is. And that's very valuable because the JK will be way more important than the IC if we do manage to lim another scum.
No -- if Gamma Emerald is scum, then we will need to know what the other two town power roles are claiming in order to make the effective plan for night actions. That's especially true if we have a situation where two players are actually claiming the same role -- which would be impossible to determine if we let Tangion slide claim a power role without full-claiming.
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Post Post #3153 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:56 pm

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I don't see why we would need to know that. There's not really any PR that we can coordinate night actions with-- IC has no action, vig will die and their one shot probably won't matter (plus I think almost everyone in the game, if vig, would have shot by now), and scum can easily play around JK if they know who they are targeting (unless we lim scum today).
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #3154 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm

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In post 3151, petroleumjelly wrote: As for this nonsense regarding "if Tangion is scum, who is partner #3?":

First off, that's putting the cart before the horse. Let's focus on catching scum #2 before we focus on catching scum #3.

Second, I can think of
multiple
people who would make sense as Tangion's remaining partner:

a.)
Something_Smart. He poked at both Black and Tangion on Day One, and has basically left them alone since. He did not help eliminate Black on Day Two whatsoever. And he is actively defending Tangion right now.

b.)
Dannflor. Dannflor is also actively defending Tangion. He votes for him, but finds reason to jump off again. His Day One play where there was a big argument town-vs-town argument between myself and IT he played ideally: going after the attacker, so that if IT was eliminated, it could lead to a string of miseliminations. On Day One, he placed a fourth vote on Black in -- but immediately retracted it in his very next post, , which is a nice subtle way to deescalate a wagon on a partner. His early Day Two vote on Black in left open the option to leave, which he did to vote for Tangion in . He pushes Tangion for just a bit (which I can read as "start posting more, partner") before switching to C-Worl in . He then only lays down a hammer on Black (KayJayQueue) when the wagon was essentially a foregone conclusion.

c.)
Pooky. I think Tangion's lack of a clear direction could easily be because he was stuck with two almost ineffectual partners who were not giving him a lot of advice to work with. Although I try not to read into people replacing out, C-Worl replaced out after watching Black get wagoned and eliminated, and may have been partially from despair at the gamestate (including being partnered with Tangion).

If Pooky replaced scum and is partnered with Tangion, I expect the Mafia QT would read something like, "we got this, Pooks has your back, leave everything to me" without a lot of direct advice. Pooks started off the day pushing Tangion, but has since made it clear he is actually pushing to eliminated either Something_Smart or Dannflor.

d.)
gob. I don't think much has to be said here. gob claims he thought Black was scummy but when push comes to shove, he didn't actually vote or help to get her eliminated. He similarly seems to be doing his damnedest to curtail the wagon on Tangion. He also seemed incredibly focused on Tangion for much of the game for no clear reason. This would be another situation where Tangion would likely be going off of very little actionable advice in the Mafia QT.

~

And that's literally just off-the-cuff. If I were trying to go out of my way to find potential partners, I probably could. But there are multiple folks who I could easily see as a third in a {Black, Tangion, X} team.
so if I'm reading this right in summary, I'm scum, I'm not very good at being scum or making a plan as scum, and I'm partnered with scum that give little or no advise or bad advice?
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Post Post #3155 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm

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In post 3153, Something_Smart wrote: I don't see why we would need to know that. There's not really any PR that we can coordinate night actions with-- IC has no action, vig will die and their one shot probably won't matter (plus I think almost everyone in the game, if vig, would have shot by now), and scum can easily play around JK if they know who they are targeting (unless we lim scum today).
First, I have to emphasize: I think Tangion is probably scum. Bullying people off of his wagon by saying "I'm power!" without specifying what power he is claiming is not going to work on me.

But going into set-up details:

What roles we have claimed is
massively
important, *especially* if Gamma Emerald is scum, which seems to be the situation you are most worried about for some reason (even though I think that is the least likely situation here; Gamma Emerald had no impetus to claim, and I think anybody worth their salt could probably infer that Ame was not actually hard-claiming Cop since she was not actively pursuing her alleged soft guilty). She was more likely just trying to draw the nightkill towards herself.

Suppose we have {Innocent Child, Jailkeeper, 1-Shot Cop} + Tracker claimed. In that situation, the plan is to eliminate the 1-Shot Cop (Gamma Emerald). We would then have varied plans for how to proceed. If Gamma Emerald flips scum, that confirms two players as town, and we are in a fantastic position and that point we should be using the Jailkeeper to try and confirm yet another townsperson. The Jailkeeper should publicly acknowledge before Night that they will Jailkeep {a player who claimed VT}. If there is a nightkill -- it doesn't matter who it is -- that VT will be confirmed town. Even if the Jailkeeper is lying scum, they will be forced to confirm somebody else to be Town. If there is no nightkill, then we can proceed with a No-Elimination and force the issue again. And we can progress from there. Alternatively, if Gamma Emerald flips scum, then we can logically deduce the Jailkeeper is scum because the Innocent Child will be confirmed town.

Suppose instead we have a more volatile situation of {Jailkeeper, 1-Shot Cop, Vigilante} + Tracker. Once again, we eliminate the claimed Cop, but our position grows even stronger at that point. Again, if Gamma Emerald flips scum, the scum will be pigeonholed even further with the same Jailkeeper tactic (to confirm a third townsperson) while also using the Vigilante to target a fourth potential player (who might be town or scum; and if they hit scum, we win).

Essentially: there is no situation where there is "hiding" Tangion's role is a benefit. We are much behooved having full knowledge and being able to plan ahead around it.
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Post Post #3156 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:09 pm

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In post 3155, petroleumjelly wrote: Alternatively, if Gamma Emerald flips *Town, then we can logically deduce the Jailkeeper is scum because the Innocent Child will be confirmed town.
Fixed.
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Post Post #3157 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:10 pm

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In post 3154, Tangion wrote: so if I'm reading this right in summary, I'm scum, I'm not very good at being scum or making a plan as scum, and I'm partnered with scum that give little or no advise or bad advice?
It is a distinct possibility. I put your odds at being scum as about 40%, which is much higher than I would put anybody else.
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Post Post #3158 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:16 pm

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In post 3157, petroleumjelly wrote:
In post 3154, Tangion wrote: so if I'm reading this right in summary, I'm scum, I'm not very good at being scum or making a plan as scum, and I'm partnered with scum that give little or no advise or bad advice?
It is a distinct possibility. I put your odds at being scum as about 40%, which is much higher than I would put anybody else.
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Post Post #3159 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:21 pm

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In post 2568, Tangion wrote:
In post 2560, KayJayQueue wrote: There’s a lot to read. I’ve never done a catchup like this. Any recommendations on how to go about it?
be prepared to defend yourself, you are the second replacement in this slot, and both of them were SRed heavily the last couple of days, and the accusations of why are all over the place, so um maybe iso PJ, cakez, and gob as the 3 main ones pushing black today if I am remembering correctly, good luck!
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Post Post #3160 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:27 pm

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In post 3159, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2568, Tangion wrote:
In post 2560, KayJayQueue wrote: There’s a lot to read. I’ve never done a catchup like this. Any recommendations on how to go about it?
be prepared to defend yourself, you are the second replacement in this slot, and both of them were SRed heavily the last couple of days, and the accusations of why are all over the place, so um maybe iso PJ, cakez, and gob as the 3 main ones pushing black today if I am remembering correctly, good luck!
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what do you make of this post? I and a couple others have called it anti-partnered between tangion and kay
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I think Tangion was trying to warn KayJayQueue to be on alert and do something immediately upon replacing in. I think it suggests an association as opposed to an "anti-partnering" post. I've done the same as scum,
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when I was newer, a lot easier to fluster, and worried about my partner getting eliminated. Some of my more embarrassing early losses as scum was getting caught doing exactly this sort of thing in the game thread.

I do not buy into the theory that the post was "supposed to be in the scum QT," though. For the record, I think KayJayQueue likely brought some light-hearted joviality to the scum team (likely in the Mafia QT as well), which probably led to Tangion's sudden announcement during Twilight that he was going to start playing the game to have fun:
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In post 2697, Tangion wrote: I have decided that I want to have fun this game, so I am going to stop getting upset when any one goes after me in any way.
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I think that was probably some dying advice from KayJayQueue. Which, as it happens, I don't think Tangion has managed to emulate.
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Post Post #3161 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:38 pm

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I see your point about early career mistakes as scum regarding partners getting axed. I made a mistake of my own of the sort in my first scumgame (which was offsite).
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Post Post #3162 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:42 pm

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Took me a while to hunt it down, but as example, one of my more embarrassing early games as scum was College Mafia. In the game, one of my partners, MikeBurnFire, was being run up pretty heavily on Day One, and was not helping himself much by the way he posting. He was calling people "jerkholes" and told the town to "screw y'all." As a very concerned and flustered partner, that led me to make Post 91 in that game, where I said:
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PJ in College Mafia, Snipped wrote:MBF: Seems to be overreacting to something that started off as very small. I am sort of in the same boat with Passdog that it seems a little like play-acting (although I know I have been pretty frustrated in similar situations as pro-town, so I guess I can't differentiate between real anger and false anger yet), but I also didn't agree with the "scum tell" pointed out on MBF in the first place. For the most part I think Mike needs to take a chill pill, but his reactions certainly warrant a
FoS: MBF.
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My mention that MBF should "take a chill pill" (i.e., stop insulting the town and act up) was correctly jumped on by multiple players, and were both eliminated on Days One and Two, respectively.

I think Tangion could have been in a similar situation. Worried that his partner was being run up and trying to do subtly direct them into correcting course.
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Post Post #3163 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm

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I skimmed from the top of the second page of tatiana's ISO and these are the posts that bother me on a re-read, up until the point where I first brought up the feeling I had
In post 1559, Tatiana wrote: 1332 is great because it has like so much curiosity an uninformed implo would have about the game but it doesn't really ever result in any kind of positional advantage for implosion
this post is presumably voicing a TR on implosion, but it's not very clearly put what the point is
In post 1581, Tatiana wrote: I'm not a town asset mislimming me is fine
In post 1582, Tatiana wrote: I mean limming me
I think this is such a weird ass thing to clarify. I don't think anyone would have thought it out of place to essentially say "I don't think I add much, so if I get voted out as town, I'm not gonna be upset".
In post 1801, Tatiana wrote:
In post 1800, C-Worl wrote:
In post 1796, Tatiana wrote: Why don't you scumread me for not being charming this game I'm offended
Because you are charming. I’m definitely charmed.
In post 1797, Tatiana wrote: I think cworl prolly isn't scum this game
Idk, she shitposts too much. It seems sus.
In post 1798, Tatiana wrote: I like that 1795 is a separate post
Separate from what? My general trolling, or the post I made before that?
In post 1799, Tatiana wrote: Cworl can you vote black for me rq I am trying to tow read s_s
VOTE: Black
I have a slight competitive advantage if I dont answer your question. Don't worry your pretty little head about it
I don't understand what "advantage" tatiana was trying to suggest here, it just feels like coy "hanging a blade over someone's head" behavior
In post 1855, Tatiana wrote: it's the kind of thing where my tinfoil ears want to say you have absolute knowledge that the worlds where ame is town are the only ones that exist
this feels like playing at a dann push but I don't think it went anywhere
In post 1862, Tatiana wrote: I'm so sorry 3 of you have to be scum and not think about this
In post 1863, Tatiana wrote: I mean 2 of you
In post 1864, Tatiana wrote: You can pretend with me tho
just... :up: this. this isn't helping.
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Post Post #3164 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:12 pm

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In post 3151, petroleumjelly wrote: As for this nonsense regarding "if Tangion is scum, who is partner #3?":

First off, that's putting the cart before the horse. Let's focus on catching scum #2 before we focus on catching scum #3.

Second, I can think of
multiple
people who would make sense as Tangion's remaining partner:

a.)
Something_Smart. He poked at both Black and Tangion on Day One, and has basically left them alone since. He did not help eliminate Black on Day Two whatsoever. And he is actively defending Tangion right now.

b.)
Dannflor. Dannflor is also actively defending Tangion. He votes for him, but finds reason to jump off again. His Day One play where there was a big argument town-vs-town argument between myself and IT he played ideally: going after the attacker, so that if IT was eliminated, it could lead to a string of miseliminations. On Day One, he placed a fourth vote on Black in -- but immediately retracted it in his very next post, , which is a nice subtle way to deescalate a wagon on a partner. His early Day Two vote on Black in left open the option to leave, which he did to vote for Tangion in . He pushes Tangion for just a bit (which I can read as "start posting more, partner") before switching to C-Worl in . He then only lays down a hammer on Black (KayJayQueue) when the wagon was essentially a foregone conclusion.

c.)
Pooky. I think Tangion's lack of a clear direction could easily be because he was stuck with two almost ineffectual partners who were not giving him a lot of advice to work with. Although I try not to read into people replacing out, C-Worl replaced out after watching Black get wagoned and eliminated, and may have been partially from despair at the gamestate (including being partnered with Tangion).

If Pooky replaced scum and is partnered with Tangion, I expect the Mafia QT would read something like, "we got this, Pooks has your back, leave everything to me" without a lot of direct advice. Pooks started off the day pushing Tangion, but has since made it clear he is actually pushing to eliminated either Something_Smart or Dannflor.

d.)
gob. I don't think much has to be said here. gob claims he thought Black was scummy but when push comes to shove, he didn't actually vote or help to get her eliminated. He similarly seems to be doing his damnedest to curtail the wagon on Tangion. He also seemed incredibly focused on Tangion for much of the game for no clear reason. This would be another situation where Tangion would likely be going off of very little actionable advice in the Mafia QT.

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And that's literally just off-the-cuff. If I were trying to go out of my way to find potential partners, I probably could. But there are multiple folks who I could easily see as a third in a {Black, Tangion, X} team.
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In post 3154, Tangion wrote: so if I'm reading this right in summary, I'm scum, I'm not very good at being scum or making a plan as scum, and I'm partnered with scum that give little or no advise or bad advice?
you're missing an "if" at the beginning of this statement
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Post Post #3166 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:15 pm

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I’ve never seen so many people focus on Tangy Lion over the dead!Black in order to find the last mafia.
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Post Post #3167 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:17 pm

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Can we get some disccusion about limming Somethins_Smart Pooky and PJ?

I’m wondering what you two think of that.

Also PJ your read of me is funny. We’re both aware that me defending anyone doesnt actually defend them because of how i’m viewed as a player. It’s totally disingenuous to act as if I was meaningfully defending Black Day 1.
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Post Post #3168 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:21 pm

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In post 3164, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bruh your list is basically my list except you added my name to it

gimme some credit at least
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In post 3063, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3059, Dannflor wrote: Like who is his team mate
if tangion is mafia i would expect either gob or you or ss
But I still think you could be partnered with Tangion. I don't understand why you'd shoot for the supposed bird in the bush as opposed to the bird in the hand.
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Post Post #3169 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:26 pm

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In post 3167, gob wrote:Also PJ your read of me is funny. We’re both aware that me defending anyone doesnt actually defend them because of how i’m viewed as a player. It’s totally disingenuous to act as if I was meaningfully defending Black Day 1.
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You're right, you are difficult to pin down and my opinion of you flips a lot. A large percentage of your posts are flat nonsense and seem to have nothing to do with anything, which encourages players to ignore the rest of your posts as well, making you more ineffectual than you could otherwise be. But as should be pretty obvious, I actually do take your game-related posts seriously, and as an overarching rule, I am trying to focus on what I think your actual motivations behind your posts as opposed to trying to break down the logic behind your posting. If both Black and Tangion is scum, then it's very easy to read the currents/intent behind your posting as trying to distance from Black (without actually getting her eliminated) and now that you are down to a single partner, throwing caution to the wind and trying to halt his wagon through sheer force of will.
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Post Post #3170 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:29 pm

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In post 3168, petroleumjelly wrote:
In post 3164, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bruh your list is basically my list except you added my name to it

gimme some credit at least
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In post 3063, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3059, Dannflor wrote: Like who is his team mate
if tangion is mafia i would expect either gob or you or ss
But I still think you could be partnered with Tangion. I don't understand why you'd shoot for the supposed bird in the bush as opposed to the bird in the hand.
cuz I modded a dance game where Something_Smart was mafia and he spent a lot of time white-knighting the townies in this weird way that talked about the game as if it was perpendicular to his interests in this very detached manner. The way he changed from saying Tangion's comment to Kay was a slip from the scum PT to saying Tangion is actually townie felt kind of inorganic like he was doing it performatively to position himself. the way he began talking about Tangion as townie after Tangion became the leading wagon felt possibly like he was trying to get credit for being right on Tangion being town.

I feel better about SS being mafia than Tangion being mafia, if people want to flip tangion instead I don't really care that much because I don't have any real reason to townread Tangion and he's more or less doing absolutely nothing so if he's town he's a distraction and a deadweight slot.
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Post Post #3171 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:30 pm

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I think pj and I come from different enough mechanical schools of thought that we probably won't see eye to eye here. I'm not inherently opposed to Tangion full claiming especially if people feel pretty good about Gamma. is a pretty towny reaction.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #3172 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:32 pm

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In post 3167, gob wrote: Can we get some disccusion about limming Somethins_Smart Pooky and PJ?

I’m wondering what you two think of that.

Also PJ your read of me is funny. We’re both aware that me defending anyone doesnt actually defend them because of how i’m viewed as a player. It’s totally disingenuous to act as if I was meaningfully defending Black Day 1.
I voted something_smart, he is my preferred elim at this point.

I'm voting for tangion because Ame promised me she would vote something_smart with me after we get tangion to claim and I have no qualms about being a mercenary if it gets me votes for what I want.
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Post Post #3173 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:33 pm

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In post 3170, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3168, petroleumjelly wrote:
In post 3164, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bruh your list is basically my list except you added my name to it

gimme some credit at least
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In post 3063, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3059, Dannflor wrote: Like who is his team mate
if tangion is mafia i would expect either gob or you or ss
But I still think you could be partnered with Tangion. I don't understand why you'd shoot for the supposed bird in the bush as opposed to the bird in the hand.
cuz I modded a dance game where Something_Smart was mafia and he spent a lot of time white-knighting the townies in this weird way that talked about the game as if it was perpendicular to his interests in this very detached manner. The way he changed from saying Tangion's comment to Kay was a slip from the scum PT to saying Tangion is actually townie felt kind of inorganic like he was doing it performatively to position himself. the way he began talking about Tangion as townie after Tangion became the leading wagon felt possibly like he was trying to get credit for being right on Tangion being town.

I feel better about SS being mafia than Tangion being mafia, if people want to flip tangion instead I don't really care that much because I don't have any real reason to townread Tangion and he's more or less doing absolutely nothing so if he's town he's a distraction and a deadweight slot.
That's helpful to know. Would you mind citing the game you're referring to?

For the record, your push on Something_Smart has felt strange in large part because you seem to be calling him scum while also going out of the way to say "that's just how he plays" multiple times. It seems like your position on him should be more hedgy than you're presenting.
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Post Post #3174 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:34 pm

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In post 3173, petroleumjelly wrote: For the record, your push on Something_Smart has felt strange in large part because you seem to be calling him scum while also going out of the way to say "that's just how he plays" multiple times. It seems like your position on him should be more hedgy than you're presenting.
the "that's how he plays" refers to his habit of not voting and being passive.

my suspicion of him is for something else
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