ITT we make fun of Amercan education

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(8:26:13 PM) soccerh888: someone test me on polyatomic ions
(8:30:56 PM) soccerh888: tartrate
(8:31:01 PM) soccerh888: is probably
(8:31:10 PM) soccerh888: somethingO3 charge of -2?
(8:31:14 PM) jathan84: no
(8:31:16 PM) jathan84: something O6
(8:31:41 PM) soccerh888: TO6?
(8:31:58 PM) jathan84: you are ar etard
(8:32:43 PM) jathan84: arnet you like a senior in high school
(8:33:03 PM) soccerh888: this test is basically just memorization
(8:33:10 PM) soccerh888: to help boost our grade before the final
(8:33:41 PM) jathan84: you havent learned your elements or polyatomic ions
(8:33:43 PM) jathan84: and its almost the final?
(8:34:27 PM) jathan84: what is this
(8:34:31 PM) jathan84: chem for dummies?
(8:34:39 PM) soccerh888: chemistry advanced tyvm

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Please provide "context" for why you thought "T" was an element and this class then.

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Ok then provide context for why you are nearing the end of an "Advanced Chemistry" course and still do not know basic polyatomic ions and that T is not an element.

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rote learning is necessary and useful in many cases. for example take geography, how can you even begin to understand history if you don't have a knowledge of geography? if someone says the montgomery bus boycott, and you dont know where montgomery is, youll miss significance in that it was in the south and also have to waste time to find out where montgomery is, hindernig you from reaching deeper topics.

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ITT we make fun of

Amercan

education

:downs:

:goodontopicposting:

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1. this was not trolling
2. ITT people fail to see the purpose of the typo

adel: why would i waste my time on silly things like memorizing a periodic table?

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glork please don't do this to me

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if google gave out an award for outstanding, innovative, and sometimes batshit insane use of their search function, i would nominate adel

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porochaz was in the chat, but i cut his role out in the tl;dr spirit

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if google gave out an award for outstanding, innovative, and sometimes batshit insane use of their search function, i would nominate adel

If I had a dozen starving swine in a pen, I would invite you over for dinner.

sorry i keep kosher, thanks for the gracious offer though

porochaz was in the chat, but i cut his role out in the tl;dr spirit

I was wondering who would ask what "tartrate" was after someone asked to be quizzed on polyatomic ions.

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(8:26:06 PM) soccerh888: srsly tho
(8:26:07 PM) CryWolf20084: *shoots Jathan down*
(8:26:13 PM) soccerh888: someone test me on polyatomic ions
(8:26:16 PM) jathan84: k
(8:26:18 PM) jathan84: bromate
(8:26:19 PM) soccerh888: woo
(8:26:23 PM) soccerh888: umm
(8:27:00 PM) soccerh888: ah nvm
(8:27:08 PM) soccerh888: bromate's not on my list
(8:27:14 PM) soccerh888: we only have a few terms
(8:27:17 PM) soccerh888: like the sulfides
(8:27:18 PM) soccerh888: nitrides
(8:27:20 PM) jathan84: citrate
(8:27:32 PM) soccerh888: and a few assorted ones
(8:27:37 PM) soccerh888: like permangante
(8:27:39 PM) soccerh888: ammonium
(8:28:08 PM) jathan84: thiosulfate
(8:28:15 PM) jathan84: that is a sulfide
(8:28:22 PM) soccerh888: I MEAN LIKE SULFITE AND SULFAT
(8:28:23 PM) soccerh888: E
(8:29:05 PM) jathan84: fine i'll make this easier on you
(8:29:08 PM) jathan84: pick 2 out of 3
(8:29:15 PM) jdodge1019: don't bug him
(8:29:17 PM) jdodge1019: he's doing horribly
(8:29:19 PM) jathan84: thiocyanate, phosphite, tartrate
(8:30:15 PM) soccerh888: um
(8:30:26 PM) soccerh888: this is an educated guess on phosphite
(8:30:30 PM) soccerh888: PO3
(8:30:36 PM) soccerh888: charge of -3?
(8:30:38 PM) jathan84: yes
(8:30:41 PM) jathan84: k
(8:30:41 PM) soccerh888: woo
(8:30:42 PM) jathan84: 1 more

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btw adel are you aware of what "binaural beats" are or at least claim to be

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well i figured that was the first place you'd go so i've already checked to make sure it had an adequate and interesting wikipedia article

some websites claim to have binaural beats so powerful they can mimic the effects of LSD or other hallucinogenic drugs

however, quotes like "We find that users of I-Doser fall into one of 3 categories: Susceptible to Binaural Beats, Originally Unsusceptible to Binuaral Beats, and Immune to Binaural Beats." just screams of placebo

its also possible something legitimate has been cheaply and inaccurately commercialized which happens with everything but i cannot find enough information nor motivation to look this up further.

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I've been into producing hallucinogenic effects though rhythm, dance and meditative tricks for longer than you have allegedly been alive, so this is somewhat related to something I'm deeply into. The physical mechanism seem plausible. In my experience, altered states of consciences are difficult for most people to self-report accurately, so I may be less skeptical than you on this.

how would one go about measuring them then? physical/machine observance?

i'm more skeptical of the mass-marketability of it than the concept

now wikipedia lists
"< 4 Hz Delta waves Deep dreamless sleep, loss of body awareness"

this seems to be something that would be definitively observable as well as very conclusive. have you ever observed/heard of/or even personally produced something as strong as this? if not, what is the greatest magnitude you are familiar with?

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that was a really late double post

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are you homeschooled?

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that was directed towards chenhsi.


so would you agree with the assessment that some people are not susceptible at all? or do you believe everyone is susceptible and that company is just trying to cover its ass

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You obviously googled

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woo UPDATE, 7 months into Chemistry, dahill is finely learning the extremely hard concepts of moles and empirical formulas!

(8:01:41 PM) soccerh888: off to do CHEM homework
(8:01:42 PM) ShanbaTat: and why is that, then, dahill
(8:01:46 PM) soccerh888: we're learning about MOLES
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(8:03:05 PM) ShanbaTat: I don't see what there is to learn about moles
(8:03:08 PM) jathan84: crop like a 150x150 image
(8:03:10 PM) jathan84: and shrink it to 100x100
(8:03:15 PM) ShanbaTat: apart from what they are
(8:03:18 PM) soccerh888: for lab stuff
(8:03:23 PM) ShanbaTat: ah
(8:03:24 PM) ShanbaTat: see
(8:03:27 PM) soccerh888: like if you want to find .5 moles of MG
(8:03:29 PM) soccerh888: Mg
(8:03:32 PM) soccerh888: or something like that
(8:03:34 PM) ShanbaTat: my course is pretty antiquated
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(8:03:43 PM) soccerh888: or write out 75 g of S in MOLES
(8:03:48 PM) ShanbaTat: uh
(8:03:50 PM) ShanbaTat: that's easy
(8:04:08 PM) soccerh888: well right now we're doing empirical formulas
(8:04:34 PM) jathan84: how many months
(8:04:37 PM) jathan84: have you been in chem now?
(8:05:23 PM) soccerh888: um
(8:05:32 PM) soccerh888: about 7