Mini 732: Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Mafia (Game Over!)

[TonyMontana]

/confirm

o.0

[TonyMontana]

Only 4 times. Not nearly enough

[TonyMontana]

Like I said, not nearly enough Listened to the soundtrack enough to know all the songs by heart, that should count for something. -.-

Who's the last to confirm? Not that I'm eager to enter night, as I'm the only vanilla here. (OMG WIFOM)

Next up: Who's gay?

[TonyMontana]

nice try Tony, not gay

havent seen the show, eh?


I have yet to see the DVD/extras. Have plans to see it at a Dr.Horrible night with a friend. Gonna try to make him watch the buffy musical too


One more to go.

Let's all be our best

*wishes news reporter had more lines to quote*

[TonyMontana]

In that case I

vote: Danchaofan

to start popcorn.

[TonyMontana]

Confirmation from Megatheory about whether he used his kill would be nice, too.

[TonyMontana]

I protected Danchaofan last night, actually. I felt the Jailkeeper was a fairly powerful role to keep around. As Gorrad pointed out, this clears Danchaofan, unless there's something in the setup that I'm not considering.

Huh? How?

If I advertise who I'm going to protect, then you'll know if that person is scum if I'm dead but it's easier for the scum to find a workaround.

If they have a roleblocker they can block you, if you target town they can kill you, etc.. There's nothing in this.

<shrug> We're nowhere near the end of the day. I guess this can come up later.

Or we can end it here: There's no redeeming factor in announcing targets. Except for scum.

[TonyMontana]

EBWOP: There's no RB (apart from the Jailkeeper) but my point still stands.

[TonyMontana]

[face_palm]
I see now what you meant by confirming Dan.

Mod:

Is the weak doctor rendered useless if scum, in other words protecting scum will still kill him?

[TonyMontana]

Mod:

Is the weak doctor rendered useless if scum, in other words protecting scum will still kill him?

You don't need the mod for this I think.
Read the role. If he protects scum, whether he's scum or not, he's dead. Why is there a question about this?

There's no such thing as a mafia weak doc as a role (is there even a precedent for this situation?), so I thought confirmation wouldn't hurt.

[TonyMontana]

I'M JUST ASKING

[TonyMontana]

Christ, people, it's not that hard to understand what danchaofan said.

[TonyMontana]

I would say that Megatheory is extremely unlikely to be the SK. What SK would pass up the opportunity to make two kills on N0?

One that did not want to very quickly be lynched.

This.

I don't think we should direct vig kills either.

And this.

[TonyMontana]

Could it be possible that my jail keep kept tony from making the kill?

Theoretically, Yes.
Actually, No.
There's also the possibility of you lying, because you are scum.

[TonyMontana]

scenario hypothesis.

[TonyMontana]

Possible reasons for lack of kill:

I sent the kill.

(Nope)

Mafia tried to kill me.

(Highly unlikely)

Megatheory targeted Malyss

(Would Mafia pass up a doublekill on N0?)

Rishi protected Dan

(Most likely, IMO)

Mafia pass up kill, to have us chasing this very dilemma.

(Again, unlikely N0 strategy)

I was alittle put off by Dan's choice of me. Not only am I the last guy to need protection, but I obviously can't confirm a block. However, I can understand the incentive to roleblock me, as I would be the obvious killer in a Mafia. Besides, if Dan is mafia, then Rishi has to be too, and I don't see it.

I don't like hasdgfas willingness to catch a bullet for a doublevoter. You say you suspected he would be a target for being a good player, and later added that you wanted him around because he is a good player.
Is he really good enough to die for?
I'm not that familiar with his work, is he really renowned enough to make him a target in a smalltown, regardless of power?
And you talk highly of his ability to catch scum, but the chance of him being scum doesn't seem to cross your mind.

Allright, bedtime.
Since there's no abundance of votes, and I feel I'll be in good company:

vote:hasdgfas

[TonyMontana]

Since there's no abundance of votes, and I feel I'll be in good company:

vote:hasdgfas

I like the addendum at the end, like voting for me is all right because you think other people will vote for me.

No, I was referring to the fact that rishi had a vote on you.

[TonyMontana]

Also given N0 events I think we say it's reasonably unlikely that me, rishi, fuzzy, has, and porochaz- it's bad for town to immediately discount the possibility as among the any of these groups could have taken a wifomic approach to their night actions..

I accidentally a lynch.

Can you please re-write this when you're not stonecold drunk?

[TonyMontana]

Your going to have a problem this game, and what I write when Im drunk wont be repeated if it makes a senbelence of sense.

Anti-town. Also, senbelence?

[TonyMontana]

What he said. I post drunk frequently, I can still play the game, you just have to read throught the spelling mistakes.

I can read through spelling mistakes. Grammar mistakes must be clarified.
And saying pre-emptivly you won't repeat yourself when drunk is anti-town.

Btw, town, if i make any scumslips while drunk, I'm just gonna ignore you all.

[TonyMontana]

agreed,

vote TM

and btw, my grammer will also take a hit as is prone when drunk. If it doesnt make sense I will repeat but it'll be my judgement call. If it does you'll just live with it or go into a screaming blubbering mess rocking in the corner.

Christ, what's your problem, is anybody arguing with you about something you wrote? Are you 13 and really proud that you post while drunk?
Unless you want to argue that what dan said made sense, how bout you stfu about it.

[TonyMontana]

I know you people aren't that stupid...

[TonyMontana]

And this is relevant how?

[TonyMontana]

I cite Pikmin Mafia, http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=, where the day one lynch was scum that was killed for saying 'You Pikmin' as opposed to 'us pikmin'.

Uh, from what i see, he survived and won the game. Citation failure.

[TonyMontana]

Because you, like he, basically just admitted to being scum. Townies don't make "scumslips". They may say things that could be mistaken for anti-town behavior, but there is no reason for a townie to anticipate this, nor to call it a 'slip'.

I was making blatantly obvious satire of porochaz.

[TonyMontana]

I think the fact that I'm not mentally disabled should imply that I was not speaking for myself.

[TonyMontana]

Oh yeah. That excuse works.

You heard it people, Gorrad accepted my excuse.

You see, I didn't need the sarcasm tag to understand you were mocking me right there. Sorry for expecting the same level of intelligence from you.

[TonyMontana]

Ugh, sorry, I'm resorting to personal insults now..

Going to bed now, hopefully someone who realize how ridiculous this is will show up by tomorrow.

[TonyMontana]

Emotional ad hominem attack on Poro for . . . saying he might post drunk and his language mechanics will suffer?

Uhh.. yeah, that's exactly what happened ¬¬

As far as I know that's an occupational hazard with Porochaz.

It's an occupational hazard with me as well.

Anti-town maybe, but for him it's a nulltell (like Natirasha selfvoting and claiming SK).

There's nothing Anti-town about posting drunk.

The argument about drunk posting wasn't strong

Argument about drunk posting? Like I said, I've been known to land on mafiascum after a wet night myself. The argument was about clearifying grammar when a post is unreadable.

and here TM has this sudden volatile reaction

To porochaz, after he basically called me a whiny baby.

[TonyMontana]

The fact that you were attempting a joke is obvious; the useage of the word 'scumslip', however, still pings my scumdar. It indicates, well, a scum POV.

You just used the word scumslip. OBVSCUM!

[TonyMontana]

I am at L-1

[TonyMontana]

The fact that you were attempting a joke is obvious; the useage of the word 'scumslip', however, still pings my scumdar. It indicates, well, a scum POV.

You just used the word scumslip. OBVSCUM!

it's not the fact that you used the word scumslip, it's the fact that you said you might make them. Town don't make scumslips, they may say things that sound scummy, but they're not scumslips.

I know what a scumslip is.

[TonyMontana]

it's the fact that you said you might make them.

If you believe I did, then I don't believe I can possibly reach you intellectually.

[TonyMontana]

it's the fact that you said you might make them.

If you believe I did, then I don't believe I can possibly reach you intellectually.

Then what was it, Tony? How am I supposed to believe you when you're not explaining this?

I don't know how to explain satire.

I pointed out that porochaz pre-emptivly relinquishing himself from correcting drunken mistakes was anti-town, then exemplified it by making an exaggerated reason to not correct mistakes, as to expose his faults (read: satire)

[TonyMontana]

Porochaz - Bad Horse Ensemble (Doublevoter)
You're just a simple trio of messengers by day
You use your strength in numbers to gain greater say
Your vote, it counts for double, to help you in your play
So use it well, until you're hoarse
Vote whom you like, even Bad Horse!

I'm pretty sure his vote is double automatically, hence

L-1

[TonyMontana]

From Wikipedia: "Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form; although, in practice, it is also found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent to bring about improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humour in itself so much as an attack on something of which the author strongly disapproves, using the weapon of wit."

Learn what the words you say mean before you say them. What you said could not be in any way taken as satire. Sarcasm, perhaps, or mocking, if we are to believe you, but not satire.

Dictionary says the same thing, but easier to point out.
satire |ˈsaˌtīr|
noun
the use of

humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule

to expose and criticize people's

stupidity or vices

, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues. See note at wit .

Learn words yourself.

[TonyMontana]

Meh, I could've just quoted your quote....

[TonyMontana]

I know what a scumslip is.

So why would you admit to making them if you were town? Using the word "scumslip" in the manner you did suggests that you are scum because it is literally impossible for a townie to make that kind of mistake.

If i actually meant what i was saying, i would agree with you.
But since I was exaggerating Poro's arguments for ridicule's sake, it's moot.

[TonyMontana]

Yet what you said was not funny, ironic, or exaggerated. There's a possibility it might be labeled as ridicule, maybe. One thing's certain, it had no element of wit.

All this argument is moot, though, as what you said was never meant as you claim. You're back-pedaling, and poorly. I'm just giving you a hard time over word choice.

It was humour, even though you didn't find it funny.
Irony, maybe not.
I exaggerated my imitation of prozac.
And all as ridicule.

You're the one back-pedalling, because you know you're wrong on the definition.
It's not moot, if you can't understand the context of what I was saying.

[TonyMontana]

Here Tony, I'll quote your whole post.

What he said. I post drunk frequently, I can still play the game, you just have to read throught the spelling mistakes.

I can read through spelling mistakes. Grammar mistakes must be clarified.
And saying pre-emptivly you won't repeat yourself when drunk is anti-town.

Btw, town, if i make any scumslips while drunk, I'm just gonna ignore you all.

How is this, as you say, "blatantly obvious satire"? It's apparently not obvious at all if you're the only one who thinks so.

I guess not...
I take it you still don't understand the correlation then?

[TonyMontana]

Yes, you called me antitown, Im saying if your a little less stuck up, then its not a problem. I dont care, the fact is I do come onto the site whilst drunk, its something I do, Im not saying Im proud about it. Im telling you to deal with it.

Like I've said, I don't care about drinking, and I post drunk all the time.
You seemed to jump to conclusions, and somehow figured I was saying something against posting drunk.

Ok I forgot I made a drunk post here, but its a good un anyway. I dont see a problem of an early hammah in this case, I think the slip alone is enough, he reminds us in bold hes at L-1, why? It was already stated. My vote essentially counts for double.

It was

*not*

stated, in fact Plum stated I was on L-2 a few posts before, which was why i emphasized that the next vote is a hammer.
I'm sure you don't see a problem with an early hammer. ¬¬
I'd hammer myself, if I wasn't trying to cut down on my anti-town habits.

Speaking of that drunken post, it's alittle hard to read, could you clean it up? :p

[TonyMontana]

It's early in the sense that 2 pages ago I had 1 vote, and gained 4 votes in three posts, over essentially nothing.

[TonyMontana]

Yes it is.

[TonyMontana]

I would like to state that I hope any town who is voting me for the "slip" chokes on my balls one day.
I also would like the chance to state my final thoughts before I get lynched.

[TonyMontana]

Tony is acting quite aggressively in his efforts to defend himself, and he may be overdoing it which is a scum tell, but the wagon on him did practically appear over night and I reckon anyone would be annoyed at that.

More annoyed about it happening because the "slip"

I would like to state that I hope any town who is voting me for the "slip" chokes on my balls one day.
I also would like the chance to state my final thoughts before I get lynched.

Um, ok Tony. Go ahead. We're not stopping you from posting your thoughts. Why did you feel a need to ask? If you are town and you have anything to say, then just come out and say it. Why hold back?

Uhh... I wasn't ready then, I'm not ready now. ¬¬ I wasn't asking, I'm at L-1 and just expressed a wish.

[TonyMontana]

Danchaofan - Dr. Horrible (Jailkeeper)

ObvTown

Megatheory - Captain Hammer (Vigilante)

Possible Scum

Rishi - Penny (Weak Doctor)

ObvTown

Plum - Mayor (One-Shot Governor)

Possible Town

fuzzylightning - Johnny Snow (Watcher) -

Neutral

Gorrad - Moist (Universal Backup) -

Neutral

Master Ruck - Homeless Guy (Two-Shot Commuter) -

Neutral

Malyss - Bad Horse (Pseudo-Ascetic) -

Possible Scum

Porochaz - Bad Horse Ensemble (Doublevoter) -

Douchebag Atmosphere clouds ScumDar, read impossible.

TonyMontana - News Reporter (Vanilla)

ObvTown

hasdgfas - Fan Club Boy (Bodyguard)

ObvScum

All things said, town could do worse than lose a mere townie like me. But at the end of the game, this list will show what an awesome ScumDar you've lost.

Someone with balls, hammer away.

Town:

Fire up your brain, remind you inside you’re rioting

Scum:

Give my regards to St Peter... or whoever does his job... but in hell.

[TonyMontana]

It was only fitting that you should drop the hammer, Malyss.

Look at these people – amazing how sheep’ll
Show up for the slaughter
No one condemning you – lined up like lemmings
You led to the water
Why can’t they see what I see? Why can’t they hear the lies?
Maybe the fee’s too pricey for them to realize
Your disguise is slipping
I think you’re slipping

Good riddance.

[TonyMontana]

Using the word "scumslip" in the manner you did suggests that you are scum because it is

literally impossible for a townie to make that kind of mistake.

Agreed.

[TonyMontana]

gg -.-