Mini 732: Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Mafia (Game Over!)

[Gorrad]

Dang! We got a good crowd here. Rishi, Chaz, Fhwgwgads...Wassup? Not much for me. Life of crime, got your mail.

I'm directing a Rocky Horror-style DHSAB performance with my friends. I'm the Mayor (as I can't take on much in addition to directing), and I'll post a vid if this game goes to June.

Anyhow, /confirm.

[Gorrad]

Ah frik. Y'know, I really thought I was pro-town, but that's a pretty convincing case. I'm so bad, I even fooled ME!

Vote: Gorrad

[Gorrad]

RAR! ME NO LIKE SELF VOTING! DIE STUPID SELF VOTING PERSON!

unvote Vote Gorrad

You do realise this is a water-tight case and the only thing he can do now

is

vote himself. Its the townie thing to do... because he's scum. Which makes him scum, as he's town... *implodes.

Chaz speaks the truth! You just didn't read the case well enough.

[Gorrad]

Unvote, Vote: Megatheory

. I think I see what Fhwgwgads is getting at.

I'm fine with popcorn claiming, don't particularly care about the order, though I daresay the best choice would be for Rishi to claim his choice and for that confirmed (assuming Rishi's town) person to pick the order. If Rishi's scum and chooses a scumbuddy, then let's be fair, people- it won't make that much difference D1.

[Gorrad]

I don't see why we can't discuss while claiming, so might I ask why in the nine rings you chose to protect the only vanilla? If you were worried about the block you could have just as easily chosen myself or Plum, but you chose the vanilla. Why?

[Gorrad]

If Danchaofan targetted Rishi, he is not confirmed.

Honestly, if I was scum in that position, I might well have taken the gamble that Rishi would protect me and RB to get a confirmed. The Jailkeeper role is one of the most powerful ones in the game, so it's a pretty good chance.

[Gorrad]

I concur, good move. Clears him too, if I do say so myself.

I obviously targetted no one last night : D.

[Gorrad]

I would say that Megatheory is extremely unlikely to be the SK. What SK would pass up the opportunity to make two kills on N0?

One that did not want to very quickly be lynched.

[Gorrad]

N1, we shouldn't direct the vig. Not yet. Later, we'll see.

[Gorrad]

If I were scum and I had made a kill the previous night then I highly doubt that I wouldnt be able to double vote. Firstly because it would make it really easy. Second, it doesnt say it in the role PM or the rules.

I agree with this. The way a Smalltown works is that someone gives up their night action to kill. Day powers are in no way effected.

[Gorrad]

Hey guys! Just checking in to say that I'm V/LA until 5:00 tomorrow. I'll be at the Austin chapter of the Global Game Jam- look for me on Team Wark (#4) by following the link in my sig. We've got a live feed. I'm the one with glasses and dice for earrings.

[Gorrad]

Wow, I think we just got a confessor.

Unvote, Vote: TM

.

Also,

FoS: DanChaoFan

. How about we lynch those that we think are scum, hmm? It's a possibility that everyone on your don't-lynch list is anti-town. So don't limit options due to role.

[Gorrad]

I cite Pikmin Mafia, http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=, where the day one lynch was scum that was killed for saying 'You Pikmin' as opposed to 'us pikmin'.

[Gorrad]

Because you, like he, basically just admitted to being scum. Townies don't make "scumslips". They may say things that could be mistaken for anti-town behavior, but there is no reason for a townie to anticipate this, nor to call it a 'slip'.

[Gorrad]

I cite Pikmin Mafia, http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=, where the day one lynch was scum that was killed for saying 'You Pikmin' as opposed to 'us pikmin'.

Uh, from what i see, he survived and won the game. Citation failure.

Doh! You're correct. My point is still valid, though- he WAS, in fact, scum. And he won because I took over for him : P.

[Gorrad]

Because you, like he, basically just admitted to being scum. Townies don't make "scumslips". They may say things that could be mistaken for anti-town behavior, but there is no reason for a townie to anticipate this, nor to call it a 'slip'.

I was making blatantly obvious satire of porochaz.

This word you use. I do not think it means what you think it means.

And no, I don't think you were. I think you're trying to backpedal now that you see what you've said. You made no show that you were not speaking for yourself when you said it.

[Gorrad]

I think the fact that I'm not mentally disabled should imply that I was not speaking for myself.

Oh yeah. That excuse works.

/sarcasm

[Gorrad]

From Wikipedia: "Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form; although, in practice, it is also found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent to bring about improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humour in itself so much as an attack on something of which the author strongly disapproves, using the weapon of wit."

Learn what the words you say mean before you say them. What you said could not be in any way taken as satire. Sarcasm, perhaps, or mocking, if we are to believe you, but not satire.

[Gorrad]

From Wikipedia: "Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form; although, in practice, it is also found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent to bring about improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humour in itself so much as an attack on something of which the author strongly disapproves, using the weapon of wit."

Learn what the words you say mean before you say them. What you said could not be in any way taken as satire. Sarcasm, perhaps, or mocking, if we are to believe you, but not satire.

Dictionary says the same thing, but easier to point out.
satire |ˈsaˌtīr|
noun
the use of

humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule

to expose and criticize people's

stupidity or vices

, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues. See note at wit .

Learn words yourself.

Yet what you said was not funny, ironic, or exaggerated. There's a possibility it might be labeled as ridicule, maybe. One thing's certain, it had no element of wit.

All this argument is moot, though, as what you said was never meant as you claim. You're back-pedaling, and poorly. I'm just giving you a hard time over word choice.

[Gorrad]

I'm at con this weekend, so very low chance of posting until Sunday evening at the latest.

[Gorrad]

I didn't take an ability. I figured one, the tracker was killed N0 for a reason, it's a huge threat, and I'd rather not take it just to die the next day, and two, I'd rather hold out for a protection role.

[Gorrad]

Mod: Can we get a prod on Mega?

Mod:

Seconded!

[Gorrad]

With my freeze ray I will stop. The game.

[Gorrad]

I would say that Megatheory is extremely unlikely to be the SK. What SK would pass up the opportunity to make two kills on N0?

One that did not want to very quickly be lynched.

...why would he be lynched? "Hey, I killed X; I figured killing night zero was a good idea, and his role didn't look especally useful." Would you lynch him for that?

Yes. A vig kill N0 is unexcusable (In this situation. In future games where there might be odd circumstances, there may be a reason to do so.)

Curse Megatheory...I'd really like to know an excuse why he targetted Fuzzy. Because right now that's pretty suspicious- Fuzzy didn't seem that bad to me.

[Gorrad]

I didn't say he was way protown to me. I'm saying he wasn't that bad. There are people I would have chosen before him, especially given his role.

[Gorrad]

I probably would have killed Danchaofan for doing the whole 'votes based on role' thing.

I'm not saying that his role should stopped Mega from killing Fuzzy, I'm saying that it was a factor against doing so when the argument for boils down to 'lurking'.

[Gorrad]

Right, the whole protection thing. Forgot about that upon reread.

And yes. Watcher's basically a cop-type. If someone, say, the doublevoter targetted someone for a mafia kill and watcher was on the job? Busted. Jailkeeper has and always will be a serious mixed blessing.

[Gorrad]

Think logically. The protective roles were going to be occupied with each other and (I assumed) the watcher. If I took the role last night, I'd be killed this one with no chance to use it. Now, at least, if I survive this night I can protect someone the night after.

I didn't know we'd be almost out of protectors today. I didn't know we'd lose our last investigator. I knew that in a smalltown, there's a bloody large amount of power roles, and I'd rather not take a high-mortality role that requires me to survive a night to be useful when there are a lot of useful roles that people would protect. Would I have taken tracker if I had known that we'd be down two protectors and an investigator today? Probably so. Next time you know what the night kills are going to be before they happen, let me know, because it's pretty unheard of.

Sorry for the rant. Personal issues are making me bitter. Shouldn't effect activity.

[Gorrad]

You know that when I take an ability, I can't use it until the next night, right?

[Gorrad]

Wait...I thought it was a night power. Wow. I'm SMART. (Sarcasm. That's original!). I'll ask Glork if I can use it during the day. If so, I can at least protect someone tonight before I die.

[Gorrad]

Way ahead of ya.

[Gorrad]

Mod:

Real life is extremely crazy right now and I have a bunch of crap to do, so I'm V/LA until Tuesday, and will be doing my best NOT to post so I can get everything done. If you feel that's too long, feel free to replace me.

I haven't seen Fhwgwgads bail on a game yet, to my recollection. He'll be back.

As for my role, I'm not bloody well telling right now. I've got ideas of my own, and y'all aren't helping any by telling scum what I might do.

[Gorrad]

I'm tempted to say that he should vig himself, as I find him pretty suspect, but if we mislynch today that could lose us the game.

Can we agree that no matter what, a mislynch today means he doesn't kill?

[Gorrad]

I'll agree to that, Yos.

I was waiting for the claiim thin tio ebd.

Your one post D2, and it's worthless. Content now, plskthx.

[Gorrad]

I have recieved confirmation as to how my role works. I won't say how, for reasons stated. Just confirming that I got confirmation.

[Gorrad]

Frik. Sorry for the double post, but I just realised something. If Hasdgfas is scum, we're in basically LYLO. Tomorrow is three to lynch if we get two deaths by then- If we lynch wrong today and the mafia get a kill in, we're hosed.

Ways to tackle this:

1) Kill Hasdgfas today. Easily solves the issue.

2) Yos kills Hasdgfas tonight. Could result in loss if we mislynch.

3) Rely on us lynching correctly today.

4) Rely on the night kill not working.

5) Be really, really quick to all vote Hadgfas if we mislynch (Could result in loss if he's town).

The only way I see that's a reliable, sure way not to lose tomorrow is to lynch Hasd. If we don't lynch Hasd and mislynch, we've got a strong chance of loss tomorrow.

If anyone sees a way around this, let me know. I'm stuck.

[Gorrad]

Whoops! Swapped the two long, ridiculous usernames that were right by each other on the role list.

Yes, that's what I meant. That we could be speedlynched tomorrow.

I'm not willing to risk the game on one lynch if we can be given two. Given Porochaz' lack of activity D2, I'm bloody well willing to vote him for lurking even if he wouldn't be a huge danger D3.

Now, if we had some way to be sure of a good lynch today, I'd jump on it. But we don't, and I'm feeling cynical enough (See last bit of 268) that I don't trust us to. So I'm going with the choice that garuntees us a D3 and gets rid of a useless lurker.

Vote: Porochaz

[Gorrad]

Ok, the three posts you brought up:

259: I already stated my feeling on this. I didn't think Fuzzy was scum, I wouldn't have chosen him as a vig, and the fact that he was one of our two remaining information roles (the other being the death-prone Weak Doc) is nothing more than icing on the cake. Plus, the fact that he was such a role makes him an optimal mafia choice.

268: I thought at the time that I could not use my power during the day. Whether or not this assumption was true, I'm not currently saying. I didn't expect three of the best roles to die in one night. Should I have taken the role? Probably. That was honestly a mistake in judgment on my part.

285: Reread that post, Cow. I say it's a bad idea for him to kill, and that includes himself. In 285 I say it's at least a bad idea for him to kill if we mislynch, then in 287 I extend that to no vig tonight no matter what. Yeah, under different circumstances, I would say it's a good idea for him to do so, I think he's scummy. But now? No.

I state suspicion of Megatheory/Yos in posts 51 and 253, and I spend a good amount of D2 challenging Megatheory's target of Fuzzy. I thought that was enough prior base that the fact I was suspicious was obvious.

Hasd, what do you think of 291/293?

[Gorrad]

Ok, the three posts you brought up:

259: I already stated my feeling on this. I didn't think Fuzzy was scum, I wouldn't have chosen him as a vig, and the fact that he was one of our two remaining information roles (the other being the death-prone Weak Doc) is nothing more than icing on the cake. Plus, the fact that he was such a role makes him an optimal mafia choice.

Did you just not remember that Megatheory kept expressing suspicion of fuzzy or were you taking that into account?

You mean the one post in which he stated Fuzzy was lurking and the one post where he told Fuzzy to post despite a broken computer? I hardly cann that repeated expression of suspicion.

268: I thought at the time that I could not use my power during the day. Whether or not this assumption was true, I'm not currently saying. I didn't expect three of the best roles to die in one night. Should I have taken the role? Probably. That was honestly a mistake in judgment on my part.

but you still could have taken tracker during night 1, why didn't you?

Haven't we beaten this dead horse enough already? I made a mistake. I thought it would be bad to take a role that got killed based on role alone N0, because I would die before I could use it. I made a mistake, scum points for Gorrad, whoop-de-do, get over it.

285: Reread that post, Cow. I say it's a bad idea for him to kill, and that includes himself. In 285 I say it's at least a bad idea for him to kill if we mislynch, then in 287 I extend that to no vig tonight no matter what. Yeah, under different circumstances, I would say it's a good idea for him to do so, I think he's scummy. But now? No.

I state suspicion of Megatheory/Yos in posts 51 and 253, and I spend a good amount of D2 challenging Megatheory's target of Fuzzy. I thought that was enough prior base that the fact I was suspicious was obvious.

You think Yos is scummy or you think Megatheory is scummy? What do you think of Yos since he replaced in? You may have voted megatheory in post 51, but I can't be sure that you were actually all that suspicious of him as you never explained the reasoning for it, unless I just missed it. Plus, 253 is suspicion of Megatheory again and not Yos.

Primarily Megatheory, Yos by association. The latter DID replace the former. You can't ask me to analyse Yos by himself, there's too much bias based on Megatheory's play.

Hasd, what do you think of 291/293?

I think Porochaz is suspicious for not really saying much of anything, but I'm not sure I want to lynch him just based on role.

Then lynch him for not contributing two things this entire game.

[Gorrad]

I don't want you to contribute to the popcorn claim. I want you to CONTRIBUTE. You know, like a normal vanilla townie in a normal game. Start, I dunno, TALKING. Having a doublevoter role does not excuse nonparticipation.

We've long since moved past the popcorn stage. There's been pages of talk that had nothing to do with claiming. You didn't participate in it. Start participating. Because thanks to your role, my vote's staying on you until either I'm positive you're town or positive someone else isn't. Considering the only other person I have significant suspicion of right now is Megatheory, good luck.

Though I would also like to hear more from Plum and Malyss, the lurking's worst for Porochaz, and the speed at which he replied when I called him out makes it seem as if he could have posted any time he wanted.

[Gorrad]

As I stated previously, my vote's staying on you until either I'm positive you're town or positive someone else isn't.

[Gorrad]

The mod's gotta prod who the mod's gotta prod
I'm not talking PMs, I mean an electrified rod
All that matters- posting matters which make you feel bad
Soon we will hit deadline, the town is in our hands

Stand back scum, now, watch and you will see
The reasons why Porochaz is a good lynch to me
It seems Gorrad's the one who will post when there's a break
The choice here's an easy one to make

A maaaaaaan's gotta lynch who a man's gotta lynch
Porochaaaaaaaz is good- making a case is a cinch
His day one play consisted of randomness and then
Defense of posting hammered- not just an 'if', a 'when'

One fifty two's a contradiction, and to me does not make sense
His posts through forty seven were completely a defense
Of the random play he says is here a tell for Rishi
I don't follow so please bear with me

(Next three are Hammer, Penny, and Horrible, respectively)

Raaaaaaandom votes are to make people play
It's often accepted that to drop them is OK
They are by nature random, so it doesn't matter who
You vote for when you make them- explain this concept, you!
Your statement is confusing, though it was the other day
I'd like if you explained it anyway

Day two I've covered
He had barely said a word
He lurked openly through the day
He spoke a bit
But three oh six shows that what he did say
Was lurking and not comprehending, eh?

This isn't enough?
His role is a danger
Did you notice that if he is scum then we lose?
He can vote twice
It's like playing with loaded dice
Anyone?
POST!

[Gorrad]

Case (in a way that don't rhyme none):
1. Starting a strong random vote stage, then later making really confusing statements which I still don't understand about Rishi removing a random vote.

2. Defending posting while drunk- while not neccesarily a terrible idea, alcohol (known to impair reasoning) is certainly not an ideal influence to be under. Also, should you make a mistake, you could retroactively blame it on inebrity.

3. Lurking. Hard. Others are doing it too, that's like telling a cop 'But everyone else was driving fifteen MPH above the speed limit'.

4. Now that he IS posting, all he's said is that he didn't understand how his role was a danger and that he was, in fact, intentionally lurking.

5. He has contributed nigh-nothing to the game.

6. If he's scum and we don't lynch him, we lose.


Yos: That had actually not occured to me. If it helps, I HAVE already taken a role. I wasn't going to say so, but this seems like a good reason to.

With so much lurking going on, it would be really easy for scum to just not post. Malyss and Plum, I'm looking at y'all! Porochaz isn't off the hook because he's only been active because I've been acusing him, but Yos is looking a lot better considering he's actually saying something.

[Gorrad]

I don't travel the site outside games much, so I know nothing about your drunk reputation. I'll take it at your word.

I'm calling you out as scum because at least when they did post, Plum and Malyss contributed. Lurking isn't a scumtell at times (flameaxe, for example), but in a mini where the next day could be LYLO and there's an opportunity to contribute and someone's knowingly not doing so, I find that scummy.

The dangers of the doublevoter part was me having a complete braint fart. I meant ignorant of my reasoning not to take the tracker. 300-307.

List your contributions before post 291. I want to see it, seriously.

I said that there was a sure chance because I didn't want to give my role. Now that I've been forced, I'll tip my hand. I took JK. If I hadn't, they could have gone for Hasd and had a 100% shot of win (keep in mind that Bad Horse's ability only works for people targetting Malyss). Now I've managed to make it so that that chance's reduced, but there's still a HIGH chance that they'll find a way around it. You, Ruck, can protect yourself. Malyss has a chance to be able to. Hasd's protect would kill himself, so if he's town we can't rely on that. That leaves my JK as our ONLY chance to survive if we mislynch today someone other than Porochaz.

[Gorrad]

An accurate vig kill (if town) could balance it out

There will be no vigging tonight. Was that not clear?

[Gorrad]

5. He has contributed nigh-nothing to the game.

I have answered the questions asked of me. I have placed a vote, I have stated WHY Ive placed a vote. I am stuck in this rut with you now where you are trying to stick a case to me with absolutely nothing. The big thing thats happening at the moment is you trying to lynch me based on what is essentially lurking and non contributing.

I think my actions of late are proving you very wrong.

Do you expect me to ignore what your saying and carry on with a random road of enquiry when I actually think your scum. I think that would be counter intuitive.

This is you saying you have contributed. Not you freely admitting you haven't.

I don't recall inebrity coming up in any of our other games. Of course, there's a strong chance I'm forgetting, but again I'll take your word on it.

[Gorrad]

People's inactivity feels like a spork's being driven into my leg. Hilarious!

Mod: Prod Plum please

[Gorrad]

Sorry to double-post: Do y'all realise that deadline is Saturday?

[Gorrad]

Is there a case against me other than my not taking tracker?

[Gorrad]

...looking now, I see that both Yos and Porochaz as scum could lose us the game when I'm lynched. Here's hoping they're town. Because unless they're both town, my mislynch will lose us the game.

I was stupid. I didn't take a power role when I should have. Whoopey. People make mistakes. Make another case against me. Anything. You don't like my case against Porochaz? Fine. Find someone better I could make a case on. I'm certainly not making a case against myself, and the vast majority of people have been gone all. Frikkin. Day two.

In fact, I offer a challenge. One person make a better case on anyone other than me than I did on Porochaz. I DARE y'all. Before you string me up for a bad case on Porochaz, which I still think it wasn't, consider that it was all of y'all's lurking which gave me nothing better to go on.

I'm being strung up because I made a mistake with my role and am scummier than the one other person I've seen make an ATTEMPT at being active in this game without being called out on lurking, Yos. Vocal people have more things that can be used against them. It stands to reason he or I would be on the block, because we're pretty much the only ones saying anything.

The people who are scum here aren't me. They probably aren't Yos or Cow (Who's had a good reason for inactivity). The scum are in Porochaz, Ruck, Malyss, and Plum- the first of whom said barely a word until called out, the second who's at least said SOME things (though not much comparitively), and the other two who have 6 and 7 posts D2 respectively. Keep in mind that of Plum's seven, they were over a total of three days- the 15th, 22nd, and 5th. Three days of activity in this game, on the third just jumping on to the leading bandwagon. If Porochaz isn't lynched today, let's make it Plum.

[Gorrad]

Yos, if you vig tonight, vig Porochaz. If your kill and mafia's go through, then we're at five tomorrow and Poro-scum can quicklynch.

[Gorrad]

Yos, if you vig tonight, vig Porochaz. If your kill and mafia's go through, then we're at five tomorrow and Poro-scum can quicklynch.

wow is that scummy.

vote: Gorrad

Truth be told, I'd rather no night kill at all and Yos' change of heart is worrying. I just don't want it to screw us all over.

[Gorrad]

Six people and two scum means we can't be quicklynched. Five people and two scum means we can. I'd rather the former.

[Gorrad]

If there's six people and two scum, it's four to lynch and we don't worry about quicklynching. If there's five and two, it's three to lynch and Porochaz can screw us over.

[Gorrad]

Because we'd be better with 6/2 only if Porochaz is alive. 5/2 would be better with his death. Your obsession with odds is overriding your thinking. Plus, even if Plum saves one lynch (Which is doubtful considering her severe inactivity), the scum just need to lynch someone else. Plum can only give a quick-draw situation.

[Gorrad]

Headed to New York City from the 14th through the 18th. LA, if not less.

[Gorrad]

I blocked Porochaz, naturally.

[Gorrad]

Given the numbers, he could have been targetted as town by scum just to reduce their odds of being lynched.

[Gorrad]

Valid points.

Vote: Porochaz

.

[Gorrad]

Works for me!

[Gorrad]

I'm still not ruling out A) You being scum or B) Scum not killing. But I think it's best odds of being Porochaz.

[Gorrad]

Anyone else getting really bad vibes from Empking?

[Gorrad]

He's got a point, there. I figured I was pretty dead. I'm just lucky it got turned around to MR.

Ok, Yos is off my list. Porochaz and Empking are not. It's probably best for the town if we go ahead and lynch 'Chaz today and I get vigged tonight, to clear the air from yesterday if nothing else. If 'Chaz IS town, then y'all can get rid of Empking, Plum, or Fhwgwgads tomorrow.

[Gorrad]

If Porochaz isn't scum, then because of my night action I'm going to be the immediate #2 suspect. If we lynch Porochaz, he's town, and I block a nightkill on me, the scum NK either Plum or Hasdgfas, I'm the #1 lynch candidate going into a day with four people, I'm lynched, scum NK you, they win. If I let it through, we go into day with three people, and because I'm dead y'all won't mislynch me.

[Gorrad]

If Porochaz isn't scum, then because of my night action I'm going to be the immediate #2 suspect. If we lynch Porochaz, he's town, and I block a nightkill on me, the scum NK either Plum or Hasdgfas, I'm the #1 lynch candidate going into a day with four people, I'm lynched, scum NK you, they win. If I let it through, we go into day with three people, and because I'm dead y'all won't mislynch me.

Gorrad: Interesting. Ok, let me make this a little more clear. If you actually did take the jailkeeper role like you're claiming, Gorrad, and you are pro-town, and lynching porochaz dosn't end the game, you should feel free to jailkeep me.

If you don't block me, and you're town, town gets one vig shot, I die tonight (since I'm confirmed innocent), and then town gets a lynch. If you jailkeep me, scum can't kill me tonight; like you said, we go into tommorow with 4 people, we get a lynch, and then after that I get one more vig kill. Either way, we get one lynch and one vig kill, and this way, we can confirm if you actually took the jailkeeper role or if you were lying and waiting to take Porochaz's double vote instead.

Ok, I follow.

[Gorrad]

I blocked Yos, like he said to.

[Gorrad]

Possible outcome:

Five left.
Today: Lynch player X (not Gorrad or Yos)
Tonight: Scum No-Kills to get:
Tomorrow: Lynch Gorrad
That night: Yos gets a kill, scum get a kill. Yos has a 50% chance to win it for us.

Also, keep in mind that Empking's ability could throw things out of whack. I have a bit of a suspicion that he might be one of the reasons we didn't have a kill, though innate paranoia says that it's probably scum trying to set me up.

Also, I want to hear a LOT more from Fhwgwgads and a good amount more from Plum. You know that whole general rule where people become scummier the more they talk? Yeah. Right now, the only ones talking are pretty much me, Yos, and Empking. Yos is cleared, but Empking's my #1 suspect. Probably because he's been talking so bloody much.

[Gorrad]

*Prodded*

Vote: Empking

Well, let's try this plan. Make SOMETHING happen.

[Gorrad]

Aye. Quick and painless. Plus I wanted in for Inventor mafia and there was no CHANCE I could have survived the next day, so I wanted to take Yos down with me.