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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:03 am

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In post 522, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 445, GrandpaMo wrote: VOTE: Trekkie

i geninuly don't even think you even believe your own read list
This is just a accusation. It's like Hu points out.
In post 517, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 508, Leyshana wrote: grandpa idk if i read that part but i think you were very tunneled into defending the meta read from hu

i think i'd be more interested in getting info on the person i suspected
This is also part of the reason. They felt the need to defend rather than trying to solve more.
Take away all your long winded defenses, and it's actually you who is not much different from semtia and fuzzy. Declare person sus, then dip.
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In post 498, Hu Tao wrote: Grandpa can't keep getting away with it
you still havent responded to me either. i wish there was more collaboration going on versus the cryptic side comments going on.
I tried leading by example and gave my reads and you shut me down with red herrings. I pointed them out as such and you dipped.
so you're just going to ignore a big chunk of my iso and leave out 292, 296, 310, 311, 349, 346 (second part of it)?

and leading by example? lol -- you sound very sarcastic right now.
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:30 am

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In post 524, GrandpaMo wrote: when did defending yourself become AI of being scum? please answer.
In post 517, Hu Tao wrote: This is also part of the reason. They felt the need to defend rather than trying to solve more.
In post 525, GrandpaMo wrote: so you're just going to ignore a big chunk of my iso and leave out 292, 296, 310, 311, 349, 346 (second part of it)?
Only half of those (292, 310, 311) are good, but either way that is not a "big chunk" :lol:
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:55 am

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one of these days im gonna be called out for doing nothing of substance
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:36 am

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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:23 am

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In post 483, Fuzzyman wrote: Sorry for needing a prod, I've definitely procrastinated and blown off this game a bit too much, but it's time to lock in now.
You sure are locked in.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:00 am

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Deadline in 2 days

Kinda wanna push one of Trekkie/Grandpa through
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:01 am

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Vote gramps
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:15 am

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In post 530, Black wrote: Deadline in 2 days

Kinda wanna push one of Trekkie/Grandpa through
Why not Semtia/Grampa?
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:16 am

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In post 531, Hu Tao wrote: Vote gramps
What do you think of semtia?
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:55 am

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In post 533, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 531, Hu Tao wrote: Vote gramps
What do you think of semtia?
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:22 am

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In post 532, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 530, Black wrote: Deadline in 2 days

Kinda wanna push one of Trekkie/Grandpa through
Why not Semtia/Grampa?
I want to resolve you vs. grandpa. What is the case on Semtia?
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:29 am

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We need to eliminate gramps today, otherwise the game will never progress. They are too polarizing, and need to be flipped.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:30 am

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Imagine the amount of info we get from them flipping scum or town
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:48 am

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we can also kill a wolf
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:09 am

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In post 536, Hu Tao wrote: We need to eliminate gramps today, otherwise the game will never progress. They are too polarizing, and need to be flipped.
too polarizing? i’m in the same predicament i was in last game, and it’s frustrating to see the same dynamics play out -- especially when i’m actively trying to help town progress. it might seem polarizing because you initiated a narrative with their meta read on me, failing to back it up meaningfully, and assumed everyone would just fall in line. this approach has done more harm than good. instead of fostering collaboration and productive analysis, it’s created a feedback loop of suspicion that’s undermining our ability to scumhunt effectively.

i’ve explained, repeatedly, why subjective meta reads, especially ones like hu’s, are unfair to my alignment -- particularly on day 1. they don’t account for the fluidity of ingame behavior and rely on preconceived notions of how someone should play. i urged patience: wait until day 2 or day 3 when you have more interactions and analysis to back up your conclusions. guess who agreed with me here; yup; trekkie! but instead of listening, we’ve wasted the entirety of day 1 on me. this fixation has not only stalled progress but actively hurt town in the long term. instead of scumhunting and gathering meaningful reads, we’ve been stuck trying to parse the details of hu’s meta read and whether my defense of myself -- a defense i had every right to make, was scummy. it’s not. defending yourself against a baseless claim isn’t scummy; it’s logical.

then nova comes along, capitalizing on the distraction. nova shifted the focus from hu’s meta read to vague, unsubstantiated reasons for scumreading me -- reasons that aren’t even accurate. when i pointed this out, nova conveniently disappeared. this kind of opportunism is NAI. but nova saw an opening to pile on and took it without adding meaningful content or clarifying their stance. and i wish they are here right now because at least they provided different perspectives/lens and adding more to the conversation.

now let’s talk about trekkie. trekkie has spent this day playing along in a way that feels performative rather than productive. trekkie’s posts have consistently contributed to the noise but haven’t pushed the game forward. instead of helping town regroup and refocus after hu’s meta read derailed us, trekkie allowed the distraction to fester, even chiming in with superficial contributions that added no clarity to the situation. scum thrive in chaos, and trekkie’s behavior fits that pattern.

moving forward, if i’m around tomorrow, i’ll continue to generate reads and focus on pushing the game toward meaningful progress. if i’m not, use my flip to reassess how this day played out. hu’s meta read was the catalyst, but players like nova and trekkie exacerbated the situation and kept us spinning in circles. reflect on who benefited most from the wasted time and who worked against the thread’s productivity -- that’s where scum hides.

for future days, we need to be more vigilant about how time is spent; letting one topic dominate for an entire day phase often benefits scum by limiting the breadth of analysis and narrowing the scope of suspicion. diversify the conversation to include under discussed players, question patterns of behavior, and consider the broader context of votes and actions taken thus far. finally, keep track of unresolved questions or inconsistencies, ensuring that critical threads don’t get dropped as the game progresses. by being methodical, balanced, and focused on evidence, town can maintain control of the game and prevent scum from exploiting chaos or inertia.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:30 am

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God I hate politicians.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:42 am

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Gramps never once considered i could be scum just pushing a miselim. It's cause he is scum and knows I'm town. He's trying to convince me why he's not scum and push my focus elsewhere. Common scum tactics.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:02 am

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In post 541, Hu Tao wrote: Gramps never once considered i could be scum just pushing a miselim. It's cause he is scum and knows I'm town. He's trying to convince me why he's not scum and push my focus elsewhere. Common scum tactics.
yes, because i’m using the exact same strategy you’re using to read me -- to read you. i pointed this out earlier to make a point, and it’s funny you brought it up now because i anticipated you’d say this. i’ve even mentioned twice in my iso why i’m townreading you, and it’s based on the very logic you’re using for yourself.

you’re claiming to be town because you’re playing differently than your scum game when we played together, right? well, i’m using the same reasoning to read you. that’s not “common scum tactics”; it’s consistency. hypocrisy?

also, if you actually read through my iso, you’d see moments where i expressed doubts about you. i’ve never blindly ruled out the possibility that you could be scum. in fact, my recent statement; i implied it.

“hu’s meta read was the catalyst, but players like nova and trekkie exacerbated the situation and kept us spinning in circles. reflect on who benefited most from the wasted time and who worked against the thread’s productivity -- that’s where scum hides.”

i just don’t think it’s productive to consider you as a viable lim option (or even a scumread) for day 1, though. the people who amplified the distraction you started hold more value for analysis and flipping. whether it’s me, trekkie, fuzzy, semtia on the table, the information gained from either flip will help clarify who capitalized on this chaos and why. your read may have been the spark, but we need to look at who fanned the flames.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:06 am

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In post 538, Luka wrote: we can also kill a wolf
If you think all the wall posts were TvT you should've told them to shut the fuck up instead of taking up all the oxygen lol

Who do you want to vote instead?
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:11 am

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In post 537, Hu Tao wrote: Imagine the amount of info we get from them flipping scum or town
For the sake of maximizing info the lurkers should say which of the two they would rather vote.
I'll start; even though I find Trekkie a bit sus Grandpa's response to Hu Tao's reaction test is horrible and I think he deserves to die more.
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:25 am

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Semtia is getting a notion there's some motion
Gotta clock in before things get rockin
Otherwise there'll be a fuss over him being sus
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:38 am

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Agreed. So vote gramps
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:59 am

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In post 544, Semtia wrote:
In post 537, Hu Tao wrote: Imagine the amount of info we get from them flipping scum or town
For the sake of maximizing info the lurkers should say which of the two they would rather vote.
I'll start; even though I find Trekkie a bit sus Grandpa's response to Hu Tao's reaction test is horrible and I think he deserves to die more.
Possible trekkie partner
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:57 pm

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In post 544, Semtia wrote:
In post 537, Hu Tao wrote: Imagine the amount of info we get from them flipping scum or town
For the sake of maximizing info the lurkers should say which of the two they would rather vote.
I'll start; even though I find Trekkie a bit sus Grandpa's response to Hu Tao's reaction test is horrible and I think he deserves to die more.
if i had the ability to vote two people; you would be the other right now.

this response felt very artificial and programmed like you're setting up an opportunity for both angles on me.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:10 pm

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In post 360, Semtia wrote: I feel I need to take a step back with my reads cause so many ppl are projecting scum this game.

The only players I would not be ok with voting are Hu Tao, Black, and Luka. I also townread Nova but a vote on them would be fine cause I'm pretty sure Sloth just completely dipped from this game because of how aggro he was being. I was also annoyed at Luka earlier for being aggro towards Trekkie but it seems they've calmed down a bit and
Trekkie has gotten a lot more sus for me lately.


Everyone else has done something that makes me sus of them, Fuzzy's reads seem out of sync with the game, Trekkie flipped on Grandpa in a way I don't like, and I've already made posts about Grandpa and Sloth. I will say that looks good for Grandpa because it seems weird to me for scum to speculate on me flipping scum when they know I am town. I would still be ok with a vote on him but he's def closer to null for me.
In post 441, Semtia wrote: I also think Leyshana's slot was scummy but even I think the relentless tunneling on them is ridiculous @Nova.
Players like Trekkie and Fuzzy have also been projecting scum this game and could just as easily be scum.
In post 478, Semtia wrote:
In post 462, Novazai wrote: Trekkie is a horrible vote in comparison to the other two. Similarly you'd learn next to nothing from a Fuzzy flip.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and reread your case on Sloth but I still think you're delusional.
Despite all the scummy things Leyshana's slot has done they are still less scummy than Trekkie and it's honestly not even close.
You need to get your head out of your ass and actually scumhunt instead of acting like the game is over before we've even voted anyone out. At the very least we need to hear from Fuzzy again before voting anyone out.
In post 514, Semtia wrote:
In post 483, Fuzzyman wrote: Sorry for needing a prod, I've definitely procrastinated and blown off this game a bit too much, but it's time to lock in now.
In post 413, Novazai wrote:
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[Defending his own meta at extreme length with a ton of sources]
This is not a town post.
Grandpa looked pretty wolfy coming out of this entire exchange I feel
Can you please explain why Grandpa is the wolf of the exchange and not Trekkie?
If Grandpa flips scum who is the likely partner?
If he flips town who do you think is likely scum?
In post 544, Semtia wrote:
In post 537, Hu Tao wrote: Imagine the amount of info we get from them flipping scum or town
For the sake of maximizing info the lurkers should say which of the two they would rather vote.
I'll start; even though I find Trekkie a bit sus Grandpa's response to Hu Tao's reaction test is horrible and I think he deserves to die more.
This is a wolf keeping distance from their buddy without wanting to kill them. This switch up is wild. I'd be down to vote Trekkie or Semtia here
I scumread Alianna.

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