[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

[Xylthixlm]

Somebody explain how chosen works and nominate it. IRC setup.

Multirole too.

Those aren't open setups...

Chosen: Each player gets several possible role PMs at the start of the game, and chooses one of them. It's a lot of fun, but requires coming up with 3-4 times as many role PMs as you will actually use, and it's probably impossible to balance well.

Multirole: As above, but you don't pick a PM; you get

all

of them at the same time. Basically the same as everyone having a ridiculously complicated role. Also a lot of fun, also requires a lot of role PMs, and also impossible to balance.

[Xylthixlm]

Lyncher (7+ players):
1 Lyncher
1 Jester
1 Serial Killer
X Townies

Day start, no shared wins. The Lyncher's target is one of the Townies. If the target dies at night, the Lyncher becomes a Townie.


Timebombs! (8 players)
2 mafia
6 town

Nightless. Any player may post

Timebomb: Name

in the thread once during the game. The bomb explodes and kills the target one real-time week later. Mafia win if they have equal numbers to the town, even if some townies still have bombs.

[Xylthixlm]

Has anyone suggested a smalltown setup yet? How about this...

1 Cop (gets innocent on SK)
1 Watcher
1 Vigilante
1 Jailkeeper
1 Faith Healer (50% doc)
1 Martyr (doc who dies if he stops a kill)
1 Suicide Bomber (day ability; kills the suicide bomber and another player)
1 Copycat/Mimic (duplicates any other player's night action to a target of the copycat's choice; can duplicate mafia kills)
1 Double Voter
1 Bulletproof (2 uses, doesn't stop SK)
1 Vanilla
1 Super Backup (gets the role of the first player to die)

3 mafia, 1 SK, 8 town. Day start.

[Xylthixlm]

Fourth: Speed mafia

[Xylthixlm]

Allow the doc to change protection at any time; it only matters who is protected when the SK attempts the kill.

[Xylthixlm]

Action Movie

4 mafia goons
1 mafia godfather
3 vigs (A, B, and C)
3 cops (A, B, and C)
1 townie

Vig A and Cop A know each other's alignment.
Vig B and Cop B know each other's alignment.
Vig C and Cop C know each other's alignment.

All the vigs and cops claim.
Circle the vigs.
Circle the cops.
Nolynch.

[Xylthixlm]

Second C9++

(setup, nomination)

[Xylthixlm]

A couple of setups inspired by both Vengeful and Assassins in the Palace. The first is a mountainous setup with a handicap for the mafia, while the second is interesting because

both

teams are distinctly lacking in information (although the scum still have more than the town).

Godfather 12

9 Townies
2 Mafiosos
1 Godfather

Town wins if the godfather is lynched. Mafia wins if they outnumber the town. All the mafia know who each other are, and can talk at night.

Rebels in the Palace

8 Rebels
3 Guards
1 King

The rebels have broken into the palace to overthrow the corrupt and evil king. Unfortunately for them, the king and his guards have disguised themselves as rebels! The guards only know who the king is, and the king doesn't know who anyone is. The rebels win if the king is lynched, while the king and guards win when they equal or outnumber the rebels. No night kills.

[Xylthixlm]

Rebels in the Palace

What is the difference between that setup and Assassins in the Palace?

The rebels outnumber the guards, but don't get a vengeance kill.

[Xylthixlm]

...AITP has 1 scum with no info. RITP has 4 scum, 3 of whom have some information.

Switch "scum" and "town" and look at it again.

[Xylthixlm]

Infiltrated

2 goons
1 mafia roleblocker
2 cops
2 docs
2 vigilantes
3 townies

Scum are told who has what roles at the beginning of the game. Roles are not revealed on death, only alignment.

I'm not sure what the best combination of roles for this is, but since the whole point of the game is the idea of letting scum choose roles rather than players to die, the town should be extremely strong.

The town would mass claim on day 1. The scum would lose shortly thereafter.

[Xylthixlm]

But the nature of the game makes fake-claiming extremely easy.

I guarantee that no matter what the scum claim, there's some way of arranging all the night actions to smoke them out quickly.

In case you've forgotten, I specialize in finding win plans after mass claims.

[Xylthixlm]

The Day 1 massclaim makes it essentially Smalltown though, right? If there were some reason for the town to not massclaim D1, the town would probably need less power than they get in a Smalltown setup.

Nope - the mass claim lets you work out the distribution of the scum (for example: one claimed doc, one vig, one townie). That immediately clears at least 2 players. Plus, the remaining players have much more power than you find in a smalltown setup.

[Xylthixlm]

[23:37:19] -XylBot- [mm] mafia: Godfather, Roleblocker; mafia-ally: Watcher; sk: Serial Killer; town: Bodyguard Roleblocker*, Cowardly Vigilante, Inquisitor*, Vigilante, Townie (x4)
[23:37:21] -XylBot- [noreveal] mafia: Redirecter, Mad Gunman, Ascetic; sk: Serial Killer; town: Combat Medic, Jack of All Trades, Cop (Paranoid), Vigilante, Sibling (x2), Townie, Coward
[23:37:24] -XylBot- [oddrole] mafia: Role Cop, Godfather; mafia2: Redirecter, Suicide Bomber; town: Census Taker, Cop (Death Miller), Cop (Paranoid), Cyborg, Amnesiac (Doctor), Secret Admirer, Frankenstein, Watcher
[23:37:26] -XylBot- [lyncher] lyncher: Lyncher*; mafia: Mafioso; town: Townie (x9), Townie (Lyncher Target)*

Because these are such great choices for forum mafia.

If anyone decides to run an oddrole setup as a theme game, let me know so I can watch the hilarity.

[Xylthixlm]

daytalk12 2.0
2 mafia goons
1 mafia godfather (investigation immune, chooses who performs the nk)
1 cop
1 tracker
7 townies

any living player can communicate with any other living player during the day

The cop will be overpowered, since he can share all of his results with each player he finds innocent. I don't think the presence of the godfather is enough to shut down that strategy.

[Xylthixlm]

Who Do You Believe?
3 mafia
3 cops
3 millers
3 townies

Night start, no role reveal on death. Millers know they are millers.

[Xylthixlm]

It would if roles were revealed on death. With roles secret even after death? I'm not sure.

[Xylthixlm]

What happens if the Kingmaker chooses the Assassin to be King?

[Xylthixlm]

EHOBANOHAR

(everyone has one bullet and no one has a rope)

What happens when all living players have used their shots?

[Xylthixlm]

91

9 Townies
1 SK

Day start.

no. Maybe if you give the SK two NK's he'd stand a chance. So it'd be 9:1 D1, 6:1 D2, 3:1 D3.

NM No.

911

9 Townies
1 SK (kill-immune)
1 Godfather

Day start.

[Xylthixlm]

Godfather (kill-immune) then.

I've seen them both ways here.

[Xylthixlm]

What happens when a Jailkeeper targets a jailkeeper?

The same thing that happens when a roleblocker targets a roleblocker.

[Xylthixlm]

Start with the person who wasn't targeted by a jailkeeper/roleblocker and work down the chain. It's easy.

For example: Jailkeeper A targets jailkeeper B. Jailkeeper B targets C. A wasn't targeted, so he jails B, who is now blocked and immune to kills. Since B was blocked, nothing happens to C.

[Xylthixlm]

Lyncher 7

1 Lyncher
1 Serial Killer
5 Townies

Lyncher's target is one of the townies, only the lyncher knows who. If the target is nightkilled the lyncher becomes town. If the last two players are the lyncher and his target, town wins.

[Xylthixlm]

The Most Dangerous Game
2x Mafia Roleblockers
4x Vigilantes

Town can guarantee a draw.

[Xylthixlm]

It's closer to 0.5 of a townie.

[Xylthixlm]

It's closer to 0.5 of a townie.

how do you figure? A lover pair gets 2 votes during each day they are alive, and raise the # necessary to lynch, diluting the scum's voting block.

I didn't account for the fact that they're also masons.

[Xylthixlm]

Dethy strongly favors the town even with the scum nightkill. Taking it away would be ridiculous.

[Xylthixlm]

You should play to win the game. If you expect that getting recruited as cult will win you the game, it's perfectly fine to play for that.