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[Kmd4390]

No reason really.

I was going to vote her anyway and then saw a couple votes already on her. I wasn't going to not vote her just because of 2 votes though, so I said what I said. There really isn't any other motive to it or anything.

[dahill1]

No reason really.

I was going to vote her anyway and then saw a couple votes already on her. I wasn't going to not vote her just because of 2 votes though, so I said what I said. There really isn't any other motive to it or anything.

the problem isn't you voting for her
it's just weird that you said "btw this isn't a bandwagon vote". it seemed like you were trying to avoid getting voted

[Kmd4390]

I could care less if I get voted in the random phase to start things off.

[Mirth]

Votecount

Zazie - LVIII - [Plum]
Caf - MMXII - [Zazie]
Sly - C - [Coheed]
Isacc - XIX - [imaginality]
Elvis - MMMMMMMMMLVII - [Sly]
Coheed - IL - [Elvis]
Coheed - MC -[Kmd]
PJ - DLV - [Glork]
Ross Perot - DCLXVI - [Glork, Darox, Mirth]

Not Voting - MIM - [Dahill, Isacc, Caf]

Cups of Lemonade Bought: 1

Dahill's V/LA is noted.
Everybody hold on to your pants

[SlySly]

[SlySly]

I found an interesting article on lawn gnomes. I thought since no one in the game knows anything about them, I would share it.

Here is the url...

http://www.ezinearticles.com/?Lawn-Gnomes&id=1291325

Here are some things I learned there:

1. Lawn gnomes were created in 1800 and are still a staple in people's yards over 200 years later.
2. The whole idea of having these little treasures in your yard is to bring you good luck.
3. However, there is a bit of irony involved because folklore says that gnomes were little imps that would hamper any efforts you made to have a beautiful lawn or garden.
4. There is also this odd tradition that individuals steal the gnomes from a yard and take them to strange locations with them. When the gnome-nappers arrive at their destination, they will take photos of the gnome and send the photos to the owner.

My role PM mentions nothing about gnomes before anyone speculates as such. The gnome hunt so far has not seemed scummy to me, so what could be the harm in helping shed some light on the topic?

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As for what's in it for me, I'm not at liberty to say.

I can deal with inability to reveal certain role parameters.

And I still don't know what the lemonade does. There's stuff in my role that suggests the lemonade isn't dangerous, but I can't tell you any of that stuff either.

I can deal with the suggestion that lemonade isn't dangerous and your inability to discuss the exact PM specifcs that validate such an observation.

(worst role ever or what?) I know it might seem scummy to keep trying to make you buy lemonade, but unfortunately I'm gonna keep banging on about it until enough of you do.

What I find most interesting is that since making this statement, you haven't asked anyone to buy any lemonade. Is there a reason for your diminished enthusiasm about your position as lemonade salesman?

I agree that we should wait til day 2 to see what happens to the lemonade drinker.

This will not be acceptable for me, unfortunately.

Does this mean that the lemonade is only a factor in day 1 and you will be able to clear up all confusion surrounding the lemonade in day 2?

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My laziness exceeds that of most and being expected to be a linguist or make use of a translator is far beyond the acceptable boundaries I would expect in a nice, (un)friendly game of mafia. Someone please translate and then give Mirth a swift kick if (s)he is the root of this.

[caf19]

What I find most interesting is that since making this statement, you haven't asked anyone to buy any lemonade. Is there a reason for your diminished enthusiasm about your position as lemonade salesman?

No, apart from the crowd's general lack of enthusiasm to buy lemonade. I still want people to buy it, obv.

Does this mean that the lemonade is only a factor in day 1 and you will be able to clear up all confusion surrounding the lemonade in day 2?

That would be nice, but it is highly unlikely to be the case.

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No. It was a normal jokevote. I always vote her.

Correct me if I'm translating wrongly, but doesn't post 70...

Lügen! Sie haben mich nie vorher gewählt, KMD! (denke ich…)

Vote KMD

<3 dich

(Ich bin so slecht auf Deutsch )

Gibt es keine Lügen gibt. Ich war gespannt auf Abstimmung, bevor Sie das Spiel einmal begonnen.

(Du bist besser Deutsch als ich.)

...translate as:

Zazie: Lies! You've never voted for me before, KMD! (i think)
Kmd: There are no lies there. I was eager to vote before the game even started.

which would imply that you haven't always voted for Zazier, you just wanted to do so this game? Plz clear up whether this is a translation issue or something else, kthx.

[Kmd4390]

Sly, thanks for the info, but it doesn't exactly help.

Caf, if I don't jokevote her, it's because one of us is replacing into the game and the jokevote stage is over. Other than that, she's probably my top choice on MS for a jokevote.

[SlySly]

it's just weird that you said "btw this isn't a bandwagon vote". it seemed like you were trying to avoid getting voted

It kind of struck me as funny too.

[imaginality]

First off:
Hulk
Human Torch
Aquaman
Batman

Next: I have no knowledge on any sort of gnome. But

i do know that my role is pretty sweet, all things considered.

Rereadink and zis caught eye. Vhy hint like zat. Zeems counter-productive if town, but could be uuuseful vay for deter offerz from votingk you, if scum.

[Darox]

I could care less if I get voted in the random phase to start things off.

No reason really.

I was going to vote her anyway and then saw a couple votes already on her. I wasn't going to not vote her just because of 2 votes though, so I said what I said. There really isn't any other motive to it or anything.

the problem isn't you voting for her
it's just weird that you said "btw this isn't a bandwagon vote". it seemed like you were trying to avoid getting voted

So if kmd and a compulsive liar had a battle to see who could contradict each other more, I think kmd would win hands down.

If you didn't care about getting voted, why did you try to explain away your vote by saying it wasn't a bandwagon vote?

[Kmd4390]

It wasn't supposed to be any kind of explanation at all. It was just a statement attached to a jokevote.

Why would I care about being voted on Page 1?

[Darox]

Why would you make a disclaimer about a vote page one?

[Kmd4390]

Why would you make a disclaimer about a vote page one?

Because my reasoning for the vote wasn't the bandwagon. It was just because I wanted to vote her.

[Kmd4390]

If I was just bandwagoning, I'd have said so. I wasn't, so I said I wasn't.

[Plum]

To be quite frank, I realize that I'm going to have to get into this specific conversation sometime and have chosen sooner as opposed to later. I've also realized that I'll have to take some ort of side here, and, to be honest, I don't happen to see anything scummy with Kmd's Zazie vote or his explanation thereof.

That said, we seem to be slowly creeping out of the random vote stage, so I'm just going to

Unvote: Zazie

.

[dahill1]

I'd have said so. I wasn't, so I said I wasn't.

yes yes we get that..
but WHY?

that's like saying "I am a human being but I'm not a monkey, cow, or fish."

[dahill1]

unvote vote kmd

not liking his response to this situation

[Kmd4390]

I've given the most explanation I possibly could. I was going to vote Zazie, saw some votes already there, and voted anyway. There is nothing behind the Zazie vote.

I do like the fact that we are actually discussing who could be scum now, and not just being random.

[dahill1]

I've given the most explanation I possibly could. I was going to vote Zazie, saw some votes already there, and voted anyway. There is nothing behind the Zazie vote.

I do like the fact that we are actually discussing who could be scum now, and not just being random.

confirm vote kmd

[Isacc]

Like Plum, the length of this tiny squabble has made me realize I am going to be obligated to take some position or side, or at least provide commentary.

I think dahill is taking this out of hand. I wasn't particularly worried about the vote at all (it was in the random vote stage, who cared?). Dahill, you ask about a random vote, and then start getting suspicious when his explanation isn't to your liking? Duh his explanation isn't complex or anything more than "I just did," and why? Because it was the random voting phase.

Three posts ago, I wasn't really concerned and was just going to say "I didn't find it odd," but now dahill has

voted

over this? What the heck? There is no case being made, this vote is based on a person's explanation for a random vote?

Dahill,

FoS

for being, frankly, ridiculous.

[dahill1]

Like Plum, the length of this tiny squabble has made me realize I am going to be obligated to take some position or side, or at least provide commentary.

I think dahill is taking this out of hand. I wasn't particularly worried about the vote at all (it was in the random vote stage, who cared?). Dahill, you ask about a random vote, and then start getting suspicious when his explanation isn't to your liking? Duh his explanation isn't complex or anything more than "I just did," and why? Because it was the random voting phase.

Three posts ago, I wasn't really concerned and was just going to say "I didn't find it odd," but now dahill has

voted

over this? What the heck? There is no case being made, this vote is based on a person's explanation for a random vote?

you're not reading it right

i'm not suspicious of kmd for voting zazie. again to everyone reading,

it's not because he voted for zazier

. however, his explanation of (this is an indirect quote) "btw it's not to bandwagon her" struck me as strange and unnecessary, and i find that scum would be much more likely to say something because of their mindset. please answer this: why would town feel the need to include saying that it wasn't to bandwagon?

also, this is off the topic, but:

(it was in the random vote stage, who cared?)

the random stage definitely matters. and if think that it's only purpose is to joke around, then you really need to think things over

[caf19]

i'm not suspicious of kmd for voting zazie. again to everyone reading,

it's not because he voted for zazier

. however, his explanation of (this is an indirect quote) "btw it's not to bandwagon her" struck me as strange and unnecessary, and i find that scum would be much more likely to say something because of their mindset. please answer this: why would town feel the need to include saying that it wasn't to bandwagon?

I don't really see why town or scum would 'feel the need'. My take on the matter is that it goes down as a minor point against Kmd for being too apprehensive - but this is the sort of point that gets noted down and returned to later when necessary. It's not worth immediate voting and willingness to lynch, so I'm confused as to why you (and Darox) are treating it in this manner. More worrying still is your lack of reasoning to go with the confirm vote, as if it were obvious why he should be voted for. Sorry, but it isn't. Care to elaborate?

[Plum]

To be frank, I still do not find Kmd's statement scummy.

Vote ZazieR

not as a bandwagon but because I like jokevoting her.

I honestly do not get any scumvibe off of that. You might, Dahill, but I don't. Might just be me, but I read that as 'Vote Zazie. RVS explanation: My own custom of voting her, though apparently there's an unrelated bandwagon on her as well, how fun'. I understand you're getting a scum-vibe off it.

Ah, Caf has gotten in a post while I had to go vacuum. Quoting Caf's above post for truth here.

[Isacc]

Why would a town feel the need to say it wasn't a bandwagon? Well, a town wouldn't want an opportunistic scum to jump on them.

Why is it weird to you that a person explains their actions as they do them? How in the world does that make it scummy? I'm reading it totally right, and I maintain you have no case, your argument holds no water, and you're voting for nothing.


And yes, the random voting stage matters, but not for the reasons you're trying to say. The votes themselves will rarely ever provide any significance (they are RANDOM). The random stage is valuable in that it leads to non-randomness.