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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:18 am

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In post 80, The Fool wrote: Throwing shade happens to be an effective tactic.
I don't like it at all. I see it as a way for scum to steer discourse without committing to anything.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:22 am

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I'm not really convinced by the case on Skelly and it feels the back and forth between SMuffin and Skelly isn't going anywhere. So I'll mostly ignore the last page.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:25 am

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VC 1.03


Skelly (3) - Mergill, Solidclaw, SMuffin
Mergill (2) - NicoleAndDime, The Fool
dermdg (1) - havingfitz
CoolRedNinja (1) - dermdg

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(2) - Skelly, CoolRedNinja

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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:37 am

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In post 124, SMuffin wrote:
In post 123, Skelly wrote: Suggesting that I'm playing against my wincon again

Whether there, or here
Which is not the case
Either there or here
As I've already explained what what I did there (as you are referencing a comment made in post 10 in a game where I had 222 posts and was NOT obscuring my alignment from town D1 just because of a post I made early in the day - and had multiple townreads on my by end of day) and what I'm doing here in , , and
A comment made in post 473 a day and a half into the game you mean?
In post 124, SMuffin wrote:
In post 123, Skelly wrote: Suggesting that I'm playing against my wincon again

Whether there, or here
Which is not the case
Either there or here
As I've already explained what what I did there (as you are referencing a comment made in post 10 in a game where I had 222 posts and was NOT obscuring my alignment from town D1 just because of a post I made early in the day - and had multiple townreads on my by end of day) and what I'm doing here in , , and
A comment made in post 473 a day and a half into the game you mean?
Yes. My 10th post in that game. (473)
It is referencing the chefs kiss that I did in my 5th post in that game (127)
Based on the two different reads I got from my 1st post in that game. (70)

I couldn't post very much that game because I was at home visiting family/taking care of my mom which is also explained there.
And that 10th post in 473 is me explaining where I'm coming from to Annie and Roxas to clear up their sus of me and show them my thought process.
I'm literally doing exactly what you're accusing me of not doing IN THAT post to explain to them where I'm coming from and
show them I'm town
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:39 am

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I'm going through the thoughts from havingfitz and adding some of my own about every player.
In post 94, havingfitz wrote: Going down the player list...first up...
Skelly
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Posts 0-4 very little aside from "good feels" for CRN.
Posts 5-17 nothing really aside from dermdg's post pinged her as weird.
Posts 18-27 just a little shade tossed at Mergill followed by a "would hammer hammer" comment a few posts later.

So Skelly has the most posts by far but has said very little IMO. Has shaded Mergill slightly and would hammer given the chance. And no vote so far in the game.

I'm not opposed to a little fluff and as least someone is posting regularly. And it's still early game so perhaps hardcore scumhunting has limited data to work with.

What are your reads Skelly? Anyone sus besides Mergill?
I agree that the amount of meaningful content is quite low considering how much she has posted. But at the moment I like the activity and effort put in.
In post 94, havingfitz wrote:
CoolRedNinja [is CRN ok?]

Only 2 posts and due a prod. First post was a lot to say not much. Color topic...mafia bio....Voted dermdg. Which I would be perfectly fine with for RVS but gave some serious reason as well that I didn't put much weight in. Not sure if was really trying to justify early derm vote or just fluffing. meh.
There's not much to go with from CoolRedNinja. There are a few more posts now but they don't really add anything.
I'm pretty sure the serious reasons for voting me were not meant to be taken seriously.
In post 94, havingfitz wrote:
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Agree with his post 23 Smuffin comments...I felt same way. Not sure about the early town reads on N&D and CRN.
Like his post 58 and 68. Did you do some meta on Skelly or have you played with her? Agree with his weird comments re: derm. Not understanding Claw read. Maybe after I ISO Claw.
Like his ISO posts 9-11...though the chart seemed a bit overkill. I can see someone thinking it was a bit LAMIST.
Feels like he is trying and making some genuine effort.
The Fool is really difficult to judge for me. They appear to put effort into scumhunting but it feels a bit off to me. Like they're forcing themselves into some reads.
In post 94, havingfitz wrote:
SMuffin

Not much to work with in 4 posts. Slightly town reading The Fool.
I like SMuffin's posts so far. I'm not yet convinced by the Skelly case, though.
In post 94, havingfitz wrote:
Mergill

1 post. Due a prod. Was on the site this morning but nothing to say. Sorry about their cat. Nothing to work with....don't like presence this morning. Lurky avoidance?
I agree with this. Mergill would be a decent choice for execution. Not a solid scumread, though.
In post 94, havingfitz wrote:
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First three posts....meh.
4th post has the "check my role PM" comment. Not a fan.
Post 50 he defends Muffin's 2nd vote on someone.
Post 78 I don't care for his heavy meta assertion at The Fool. I don't see meta referred to in The Fool's suspicion on that comment.
Post 79 his top choice to remove is Mergill for 0 content but still has his RVS vote on CRN.
regarding Post 50: I didn't really intend to defend Muffin. That was more about me not liking what The Fool was doing.
regarding Post 78: Maybe meta was the wrong wording from my side but The Fools reasoning doesn't work without some additional knowledge about me.
regarding Post 79: I don't see the issue here. The RVS stage vote doesn't hurt anybody and I mentioned I wouldn't want to use the magic wand right now.
In post 94, havingfitz wrote:
Solidclaw

First 5 posts not a lot. Does describe his dislike towards Skelly's fluffy posting but doesn't give read.
6th post is ok with Skelly's fluff but not her lack of scumhunting. Nor the Fool's LAMIST chart. Vote on Skelly. Scumreading The Fool as well.
I don't really have much of an opinion on Solidclaw tbh. I guess I like that he's no a fon of The Fool.

In post 94, havingfitz wrote:
NicoleAndDime

Has 9 posts and almost no contribution to scumhunting aside from dismissing a Muffin townread on The Fool and inferring Solidclaw (I think) is town.
I have similar thoughts on NicoleAndDime. I'm not a fan of her play so far.
In post 94, havingfitz wrote:
Suspect
- dermdg, Mergill
Town reading
- The Fool, Solidclaw
TBD/Need to see more
- Nicole, Skelly, CRN, and Muffin

VOTE: dermdg
I like how havingfitz has posted so far even though I disagree on reads.

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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:49 am

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In post 128, Skelly wrote:
In post 124, SMuffin wrote: ...
Yes. My 10th post in that game. (473)
It is referencing the chefs kiss that I did in my 5th post in that game (127)
Based on the two different reads I got from my 1st post in that game. (70)

I couldn't post very much that game because I was at home visiting family/taking care of my mom which is also explained there.
And that 10th post in 473 is me explaining where I'm coming from to Annie and Roxas to clear up their sus of me and show them my thought process.
I'm literally doing exactly what you're accusing me of not doing IN THAT post to explain to them where I'm coming from and
show them I'm town
.
I'm dropping this with you, because this argument is going in circles around me trying to explain my argument and nail down exactly where you think it's wrong, and you continuing to disagree in broad terms. I think the case is, for the moment, played out, until others join in the discussion.

This said, I am temporarily taking my vote off you to make room for discussion and specifically avoid a quick elimination, as I'd like everyone to get reads out before that happens. Still want it known I have my eye on this slot.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:50 am

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In post 125, dermdg wrote:
In post 80, The Fool wrote: Throwing shade happens to be an effective tactic.
I don't like it at all. I see it as a way for scum to steer discourse without committing to anything.
I'm not a big fan, either but I think it can sometimes be a decent tactic early game to try and gauge reactions.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:28 am

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I will be catching up in a bit but just FYI my internet went out so I'm on mobile.

I may or may not be able to figure out how to connect to my PC via phone.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:37 am

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In post 126, dermdg wrote: I'm not really convinced by the case on Skelly and it feels the back and forth between SMuffin and Skelly isn't going anywhere. So I'll mostly ignore the last page.
Yeah it strikes me as a really weird push

I'm not interested in eliminating someone based on how they were playing in a different game

Skelly is doing plenty this game and that's what matters
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:04 am

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I think our best eliminations are within derm, Crn and mergil right now

Maybe we'll get some more info out of them if we shift some pressure over

I'm not interested in a Fitz or SC lim at all.

Smuffin I have some mixed feelings over. The argument against Skelly feels in bad faith and distanced. She is basically ignoring the question of whether Skelly is actually scum in this game. That's an odd push for any alignment to make.

Skelly herself I don't see a great reason to vote.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:04 am

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VOTE: Coderedninja
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:09 am

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BTW I'm on a lot more than I post if you want elaboration just ask, just haven't had much to say.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:12 am

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Spoiler: size
In post 130, SMuffin wrote:
In post 128, Skelly wrote:
In post 124, SMuffin wrote: ...
Yes. My 10th post in that game. (473)
It is referencing the chefs kiss that I did in my 5th post in that game (127)
Based on the two different reads I got from my 1st post in that game. (70)

I couldn't post very much that game because I was at home visiting family/taking care of my mom which is also explained there.
And that 10th post in 473 is me explaining where I'm coming from to Annie and Roxas to clear up their sus of me and show them my thought process.
I'm literally doing exactly what you're accusing me of not doing IN THAT post to explain to them where I'm coming from and
show them I'm town
.
I'm dropping this with you, because this argument is going in circles around me trying to explain my argument and nail down exactly where you think it's wrong, and you continuing to disagree in broad terms. I think the case is, for the moment, played out, until others join in the discussion.

This said, I am temporarily taking my vote off you to make room for discussion and specifically avoid a quick elimination, as I'd like everyone to get reads out before that happens. Still want it known I have my eye on this slot.

UNVOTE:

I will try one more time because I feel like you're tunneled on this with misunderstanding and hopefully, not trying to purposefully misrepresent me.

70 - My first post
72 - Esfera reads that post as 'RME' - which I don't understand until later means 'Rolled Mafia Energy'. I thought it was 'Rolling My Eyes'
73 - So when I respond to Esfera here with threat of dad joke to make it worse as I think he's rolling his eyes at my entrance
86 - Black town reads me for my first post
In post 127, Skelly wrote:
In post 96, AnimatedWiz wrote:
In post 76, Skelly wrote:
In post 75, AnimatedWiz wrote:
In post 72, Esfera wrote: Vaguely RME entrance tbh.
What does RME stand for?
I took it as ‘Rolling My Eyes’ and attempted to compound on it but could be wrong.

Upon further research, it means “rolled mafia energy.”
Oh, hahah. Thanks!
I feel like my response is relatively the same. Replace dad joke with a ‘chef’s kiss’.
I like that that same entrance is read as both town and scum.
Liking that my very first post is read as both town and scum does not = playing the entirety of the game as anti-town when I've clearly shown that is not what I did there, nor what I am doing here.
So how do you feel about me in
this
game?
Do you feel like I'm still doing nothing but fluff and/or 'anti-town' behavior despite me showing what I'm actually doing in , , and ?
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:16 am

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In post 136, NicoleAndDime wrote: BTW I'm on a lot more than I post if you want elaboration just ask, just haven't had much to say.
Fair enough, and good to know!
It's tough when a lot of the playerlist isn't contributing much yet. Think some prods went out so maybe soon. /fingerscrossed
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:19 am

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Yeah I'm usually pretty inactive early on cause there's just not a lot to comment on, especially when I feel it's not very AI
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:22 am

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Meta reads should always come with a heaping spoonful of salt. The more aware someone is of their own meta, the more they can manipulate it. Non-neutral meta tells are sometimes valid for the game in which they are brought up, and invalid thereafter. The real info you get from learning someone's meta are their neutral tells. The things that would otherwise lead you to town or scum read them, but because you know that's their style, it's less impactful.

As an example, I used charts and graphics frequently in my forum/Discord D&D games, either as a joke or to make things more fun. So where you might think I'm trying to be extra super duper ultra mega townie or something just by posting a chart (I still don't understand the logic behind this as a tell, it's really stupid), in reality that's just what I do. The act of posting a chart itself shouldn't be positive or negative. If anything, one could argue that putting my reads out aggressively forces discussion with the tradeoff being that it puts a huge neon sign up asking for my takes to be investigated with a fine tooth comb. But then that's just WIFOM logic.

I went through Skelly's meta and discovered in our sample size of 1 single game per alignment, she tends to be more active/bubbly in town games. I'd say the margin of error on that is like 40%. Still, it's good info to have and it lead me to a town read. The anti-scumhunting behavior is a separate issue, but that also seems to be a (bad) meta thing.

I'd also just like to point out that activity is not scummy, but lurking is. If your top reads are the two most active players, you should probably re-evaluate your scumhunting methods.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:34 am

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In post 140, The Fool wrote:
Meta reads should always come with a heaping spoonful of salt.
The more aware someone is of their own meta, the more they can manipulate it. Non-neutral meta tells are sometimes valid for the game in which they are brought up, and invalid thereafter. The real info you get from learning someone's meta are their neutral tells. The things that would otherwise lead you to town or scum read them, but because you know that's their style, it's less impactful.

As an example, I used charts and graphics frequently in my forum/Discord D&D games, either as a joke or to make things more fun. So where you might think I'm trying to be extra super duper ultra mega townie or something just by posting a chart (I still don't understand the logic behind this as a tell, it's really stupid), in reality that's just what I do. The act of posting a chart itself shouldn't be positive or negative. If anything, one could argue that putting my reads out aggressively forces discussion with the tradeoff being that it puts a huge neon sign up asking for my takes to be investigated with a fine tooth comb. But then that's just WIFOM logic.

I went through Skelly's meta and discovered in our sample size of 1 single game per alignment, she tends to be more active/bubbly in town games. I'd say the margin of error on that is like 40%. Still, it's good info to have and it lead me to a town read. The anti-scumhunting behavior is a separate issue, but that also seems to be a (bad) meta thing.

I'd also just like to point out that activity is not scummy, but lurking is.
If your top reads are the two most active players, you should probably re-evaluate your scumhunting methods.
It's not even a meta read, it's meta "this player is bad/actively harmful to town as town" they aren't even putting alignment into it really

Neither of these things are inherently AI
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:13 am

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Phone post...

Muffin Skelly exchange is a lot (too much). I'm typically against policy kills. From memory I think the only ones I support are 1) caught in a lie, 2) being a complete asshole and 3) lurking.

I also think policy kills benefit scum more than town (except in scenario 1 I gave).
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:35 am

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Currently the issue with the game is too many players are either lurking, not posting reads, or doing quantum meta-analysis on stuff that doesn't matter.

My new years resolution was supposed to be brevity. We'll see how well I keep it. At this point I'm personally frustrated with the back and forth, the fluff, and not actually getting the information I want.

Here's an analysis of everyone so far.




CoolRedNinja
- Has not committed to a single read. Is lurking. Doesn't post much. Either scummy or bad for town. Leaning scummy at this point.


dermdg
- Mostly the same but with one ok post. I find this ironic:
In post 125, dermdg wrote: I see it as a way for scum to steer discourse without committing to anything.
Buddy, you're barely participating in discourse and definitely aren't committed to anything. Up to this post,
the only thing derm had done was dismiss other reads
. Even in the one ok post mentioned before, it's just recycling fitz's post and adding almost nothing. I still don't know where derm stands on anyone. It's all wishy-washy. An occasional "I like this post but not this one". Like, cmon. Pressure someone. Get in the weeds. Start an argument. Something.

The active non-commitment to reads and dismissal of other reads makes me lean scum.


havingfitz
- Almost nothing there until one post. One brilliant, beautiful post. I'm willing to forgive the fluff here since they're v/la on weekends and activity really picked up on Saturday. It was more of an overview than an analysis, but still good.

I'm leaning town on fitz for one simple reason. They didn't need to do an overview at all. They could have done some wishy-washy analysis and stayed quiet and nobody would have said anything. There's no pressure on fitz to do any of that. They're barely in the discussions. So, in conclusion, I lean town for fitz.


Mergill
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Always worried I will forget or lose interest and ruin the experience for others.
Whoops.


NicoleAndDime
- Her opening was a good icebreaker to get conversation rolling. After that there was a sharp decline in quality until her 10th post:
In post 134, NicoleAndDime wrote: I think our best eliminations are within derm, Crn and mergil right now
Honestly, that's stating the obvious, but it's something. Allegedly there's not much to comment on. I hard disagree. There's plenty of content now.

I was leaning strong town for N&D at the beginning. However, going back to that same post we get:
Skelly herself I don't see a great reason to vote.
The vibes are off. It's difficult to pinpoint exactly why, but I'm going to attempt it. This feels like it could equally be "I just don't see the argument" but also "hey partner, could you make a stronger case for Skelly so we can get rid of her without looking scummy". It's also a bit wishy-washy, like she's planning to change her view down the road but now isn't the right time. Notably, it's also not committed to staying neutral and leaves room to flip on a dime for no particular reason. It isn't actually saying how she feels about Skelly's alignment, but instead is subverting that and going right to "this is all meta, doesn't matter, nobody can know".

I think if I boil down the issue, it's this: if and when there's a bandwagon on Skelly (which is a strong possibility), she has the option to hop on or stay off without anyone questioning it. It feels like there was a deliberate amount of room left open for that possibility. It looks and feels like a positioning strategy rather than a genuine read.

I'm still leaning town for Nicole, to be clear. But I would like to see some fleshed out positions from her, with reasons/evidence/vibes/something.


Skelly
- Going back and reading her ISO was very enlightening. Moreso than reading anyone else's. It's all meta BS and fluff, and dare I say self-centered. I don't see a better way to do this, but let's categorize her posts for fun.
  1. Fluff
  2. Fluff
  3. Fluff
  4. Fluff
  5. Fluff
  6. Fluff
  7. Fluff
  8. Mostly fluff, but also farming engagement. +aura
  9. Fluff
  10. Fluff
  11. Fluff
  12. Letting us know she's hammer-happy. Good to know I guess.
  13. Self-Meta
  14. Fluff
  15. Fluff about fluff
  16. Self-Meta
  17. Fluff
  18. Fluff, but does point out inactivity. Cool I guess.
  19. Self-Meta and fluff
  20. Fluff
  21. Actual content, but related to the inactivity previously mentioned.
  22. Fluff
  23. Self-Meta fluff
  24. Fluff (literally just an image)
  25. Self-Defense but honestly just fluff
  26. Fluff
  27. Fluff
  28. Meta fluff
  29. Dismissing previous content as fluff, more self-meta
  30. Self-Meta
  31. Self-Meta
  32. Self-Meta
  33. Self-Meta
  34. Self-Meta
  35. Self-Meta
  36. Self-Meta
  37. Fluff
  38. Self-Meta and Fluff
  39. Self-Meta
  40. Self-Meta
  41. Fluff
  42. Self-meta, Self-Defense, Fluff
  43. Fluff
There is not a single thing Skelly's done all game except talk about herself and fluff post in the name of increasing activity. Some of the meta-posting is like, super weird. It's self-meta-LAMIST posting and actively arguing against reads.

I'm going to come clean about the chart because this is important. Keep in mind, I posted the chart on page 4 when the game had barely started. I expected most people to understand it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I guess it wasn't clear enough. There was not enough info for strong reads on page 4. There just wasn't. Any and all reads are just vibes-based at that point. Part of the reason for the chart was as an elaborate separate-the-town-into-micro-factions play that didn't pan out. I was trying a new strategy I've seen before a long time ago, and clearly I don't have the experience or social-prowess to pull it off. The idea behind that is if you separate people into cliques, you can get a ton of information about who's buddying, who's satisfied being viewed as town (and no longer participates), who's getting overly upset at being suspected, who's bandwagon happy, etc. There is a metric ton of information you can get with a successful ingroup-outgroup gambit and I guess it came off too strongly and too early, as a lot of people just saw it as weird and scummy and moved on.

Still, I think it got some useful information out of a few people. Skelly in particular seemed to get more complacent, (I believe) in part because I cemented her as top of the "obvtown" category. This was deliberate. I wanted her to be complacent to see what happened. So, what did happen? A few people started going after her (how dare people consider her obvtown) and she became defensive, and she still hasn't posted much of a read on... anyone. She has no positions. She has nothing to add to the conversation. Everything in her posts are centered on herself or irrelevant stuff.

Overall, I think Skelly is scummy as hell. Her motivations seem to be pure survival rather than any genuine interest in hunting scum. All of these excuses, going back to her meta, fluff posts. It's damning. I was seriously still leaning town for her until I did the ISO and really picked her posts apart. This is unfortunate because she's currently the most active player by a not-insignificant margin. But I can't ignore this. Not all of it. 43 posts this game and not a single thing said is damning.


SMuffin
- I'm a bit exhausted after the Skelly section, but here we go. I think SMuffin leans town. And I'm gonna be honest, it's mostly vibes.

While her specific contributions aren't much, she clearly has an idea of who she thinks is scum and who's not. And it's done in a way that, in my opinion, is hard to fake. There's a bit too much meta-waffling for my tastes, but that's not AI. Also, dismissing it after taking up a page was a good move and generally pro-town. The convo clearly wasn't going anywhere and scum would have an incentive to keep that nothingburger going perpetually. I also think despite allegations of her trying to policy-lim Skelly, there are some very good reasons to see Skelly as scummy. In between the meta-waffling, there also were moments where she clearly explained how Skelly's meta-manipulation BS was anti-town above and beyond just simply not liking it as a concept. See ISO post #12. Read between the lines and see what SMuffin is really trying to say. Also, that's a genuine effort in my book.


Solidclaw
- This is a weird one for me.

On one hand, I think Solidclaw's play has been generally pro-town and good. On the other, there are some truly baffling takes. I don't understand his method of scum-hunting in the slightest. But that's ok, because I don't have to understand.

I still lean town on Solidclaw, however, I think I also just need to point out again that his primary suspects were the two most active players at the time. Maybe that's a coincidence. Maybe his mind is working on a higher dimension that us mere mortals can't comprehend. Regardless, I'm tentatively glad he's likely on my team. The change of perspective brings variety and I appreciate disagreements.

I wish I had more to say. It's still early. I'll be watching this slot closely and following up.


To recap, the new tier list is:
Town - Solidclaw, SMuffin, fitz, Nicole
Neutral/Leaning Scum - CRN, Mergill,
Scum - Skelly, derm
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:48 am

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Oh, I almost forgot.

VOTE: Skelly
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:49 am

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In post 127, Skygazer wrote: votecount
We could really use that votecount. Please and thank you.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:23 am

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In post 126, dermdg wrote:I'm not really convinced by the case on Skelly and it feels the back and forth between SMuffin and Skelly isn't going anywhere. So I'll mostly ignore the last page.
Amen. My eyes started to glaze over pretty far into it, so I started skimming. I think my slightly town-ish read on Skelly and my slightly scum-ish read on SMuffin have pretty much flipped though. Skelly sounds pretty defensive, and tried to sound pretty fluffy about it at the beginning, posting pictures and whatnot, but then started getting really quibbly once Smuffin dug in more. SMuffin's doggedness feels kinda town-ish to me.
In post 129, dermdg wrote:I'm pretty sure the serious reasons for [CoolRedNinja] voting me were not meant to be taken seriously.
Correct! I thought underlining
extremely serious reasons
would be tantamount to writing "/s" but apparently some people still took me seriously (or at least couldn't tell it was sarcasm). It was pretty much a joke vote meant to stimulate conversation.


Reads at this point
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Solidclaw, The Fool, and havingfitz feel town. I don't want to execute today (or even tomorrow, without some kind of night action results saying they are mafia).


NicoleAndDime feels coasty. A little bloodthirsty, a little buddy-buddy, not super towny or super scummy, but I would like to see something more.

SMuffin I haven't made up my mind yet, but the whole back-and-forth with Skelly could all just be an elaborate distancing attempt. They're really going at it, and it doesn't feel like either of them knows how to pump the brakes. Makes me feel like at least one of them has something real to lose, and it's sounding a lot more like it's Skelly than SMuffin.

Skelly is a fluff machine, and while I appreciate the activity vibes and trying to make things fun, it's definitely NAI and I think SMuffin laying into her has had the effect of cracking her facade.

dermdg feels like robo-newb-scum that thinks saying Captain Obvious party-line statements like "beep boop, it is bad to fast hammer D1 as town" a.k.a. "how do you do, fellow kids?" will make people think he is pro-town. I would not mind if he was executed today.


SERIOUS
VOTE: dermdg

Personally, I would rather have Mergill replaced than executed, that'd be a waste of a player slot in my opinion. Let's get someone in here who will contribute!
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:23 am

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In post 70, The Fool wrote:Question for everyone. Hypothetically, you get a magic wand that can eliminate one player, but it has to be used right now. Who do you get rid of and why?
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:23 am

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In post 135, NicoleAndDime wrote: VOTE: Coderedninja
I'm hurt. Lmao
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:26 am

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In post 130, SMuffin wrote:
In post 128, Skelly wrote:[ ... stuff and things ... ]
I'm dropping this with you, because this argument is going in circles
I stand corrected, SMuffin
did
have the self-awareness to realize that useless arguments are useless.
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