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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:54 am

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In post 818, The Fool wrote: Is this giving up?

Cause it looks like giving up.
Absolutely not. I've made my points on NicoleAndDime. It's probably tomorrow before I'd have time to ISO you and/or CRN and I don't see it changing where my suspicions are. You seem to be the 2nd favorite lim today but I'm not interested in you vice NicoleAndDime atm.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:24 am

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havingfitz (2) - NicoleAndDime, SolidClaw
NicoleAndDime (1) - havingfitz

NOT VOTING
(3) - The Fool, PoshTomato, CoolRedNinja

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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:08 am

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Prodding PoshTomato.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:56 am

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In post 821, CoolRedNinja wrote: @ everyone else: Is it possible that both fitz and Nicole are town here?

I'm going to take a page out of derm's book, and ask everybody who their favorite elimination target is, apart from the above two!
The logical solution is that it’s Nicole and Fitz. If I had the choice to eliminate someone not on that list it would be the fool.
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:14 am

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In post 821, CoolRedNinja wrote: @ everyone else: Is it possible that both fitz and Nicole are town here?

I'm going to take a page out of derm's book, and ask everybody who their favorite elimination target is, apart from the above two!
This question is either a failure of logic, or a perspective slip. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt since I don't think you hard-bussed Skelly/Scorp.

From my perspective as a VT, there are literally only 3 players even possible in my scum pool: You, Nicole, and fitz.

If fitz and Nicole both flip town, I am permanently voting you
. That is my only option.

You claimed VT, so your perspective should be identical.
If Nicole and fitz both flipped town, your only option for scum is me
.

On that note, I don't understand why you even suspect me when we did the same thing. We both went after Scorp and forced the claim out. You seem to have this massive ego riding on the idea that you and you alone are the town savior who got the scum voted out, when you forget that the post where Scorp claimed quoted my post as the straw that broke, and afterward Posh CC'd and then Scorp self-hammered. It was a team effort. You pushed hard, I pushed hard, and Posh CC'd properly. It took all three of us to get that done. If either you or I were scum, it would have been trivially easy to give up the push and forget about it. Most other players were lightly suggesting Scorp should claim, but not putting any real pressure on it. We both pressured hard and got it done. It feels like the only reason you even suspect me is simply because you're jealous that I also contributed, and you want to take sole credit. Or you think I want to take sole credit? I've been pretty careful not to just gloat and act like I was the only one responsible for that push, but
it also feels like that's exactly what you're trying to do
.

You've been erasing my contributions all game, and it's incredibly, obnoxiously ironic. Especially when you'll use good logic to defend yourself, and then magically forget that the same logic applies to me...
in the same post
. Without even a sentence in between.

Look at this post:
In post 746, CoolRedNinja wrote:
You think I hard bussed yesterday, or what?
I'm also not seeing
why you would rather see a fitz lim than a Fool lim
, that sounds ... weird, but I want to hear your reasoning.
The only edits here were the highlight and I removed the quoted post that was being responded to. How do you not see the irony in this post?

Again, this has been happening all game. It's not just isolated to me, but it's certainly come up more than once with me. You remember how the entire town went after derm simultaneously, but then when I declared intent to hammer, you threw a fit? When I go back and read that exchange, all I see is you suspecting me over... being on the same wagon as you. You're mad because we agree? Are you embarrassed that someone else has similar ideas to you? It feels manipulative and nonsensical.

The idea that I might hammer is offensive and scummy, because only our glorious guardian angel
CoolRedNinja
may bestow upon us an elimination so that all credit can go to our dear leader
CoolRedNinja
. Champion of the Cat Facts newbie game
CoolRedNinja
who has all of the good ideas, and any ideas that are similar are clearly
STOLEN
and belong to their rightful thought-owner
CoolRedNinja
. Literally
NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY IDEAS
except
CoolRedNinja
. We are all peons in the game that
CoolRedNinja
personally owns and operates.
CoolRedNinja
may as well have the role list because
CoolRedNinja
is so smart and glorious, clearly all credit and intelligence and mesmerizing beauty goes
EXCLUSIVELY TO
CoolRedNinja
, the greatest player that has ever blessed the game,
CoolRedNinja
! We thank the gods, no,
CoolRedNinja
is among them,
NAY
,
CoolRedNinja
invented the gods themselves. Praise be to
CoolRedNinja
the inventor of Mafia!

Three cheers for
CoolRedNinja
!

CoolRedNinja!


CoolRedNinja!


CoolRedNinja!


. . .

Alright, is that enough glazing? Can we please just move on and get the scum out of here? We both know we're town. We both agree on what needs to be done. Let's just get it done. I'll give you all the credit. I don't care. I just want us to win.

We clearly have differences in reasoning, but also agree on some parts. It should be obvious we're both town, we both agree, and this weird tension and you constantly going after me feels contrived at best. Like as much as you want to talk about me having an ego, you've certainly been screaming about getting attention and credit for any and all things that happen in the game. Maybe you're mistaking perceived confidence for arrogance, when you're not confident yourself. Either way, it's kinda messed up how we agree on most things but then you want to constantly go after me. This ain't Highlander. We can agree. That's fine.
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:22 am

Post by Solidclaw »

In post 829, The Fool wrote:
In post 821, CoolRedNinja wrote: @ everyone else: Is it possible that both fitz and Nicole are town here?

I'm going to take a page out of derm's book, and ask everybody who their favorite elimination target is, apart from the above two!
This question is either a failure of logic, or a perspective slip. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt since I don't think you hard-bussed Skelly/Scorp.

From my perspective as a VT, there are literally only 3 players even possible in my scum pool: You, Nicole, and fitz.

If fitz and Nicole both flip town, I am permanently voting you
. That is my only option.

You claimed VT, so your perspective should be identical.
If Nicole and fitz both flipped town, your only option for scum is me
.

On that note, I don't understand why you even suspect me when we did the same thing. We both went after Scorp and forced the claim out. You seem to have this massive ego riding on the idea that you and you alone are the town savior who got the scum voted out, when you forget that the post where Scorp claimed quoted my post as the straw that broke, and afterward Posh CC'd and then Scorp self-hammered. It was a team effort. You pushed hard, I pushed hard, and Posh CC'd properly. It took all three of us to get that done. If either you or I were scum, it would have been trivially easy to give up the push and forget about it. Most other players were lightly suggesting Scorp should claim, but not putting any real pressure on it. We both pressured hard and got it done. It feels like the only reason you even suspect me is simply because you're jealous that I also contributed, and you want to take sole credit. Or you think I want to take sole credit? I've been pretty careful not to just gloat and act like I was the only one responsible for that push, but
it also feels like that's exactly what you're trying to do
.

You've been erasing my contributions all game, and it's incredibly, obnoxiously ironic. Especially when you'll use good logic to defend yourself, and then magically forget that the same logic applies to me...
in the same post
. Without even a sentence in between.

Look at this post:
In post 746, CoolRedNinja wrote:
You think I hard bussed yesterday, or what?
I'm also not seeing
why you would rather see a fitz lim than a Fool lim
, that sounds ... weird, but I want to hear your reasoning.
The only edits here were the highlight and I removed the quoted post that was being responded to. How do you not see the irony in this post?

Again, this has been happening all game. It's not just isolated to me, but it's certainly come up more than once with me. You remember how the entire town went after derm simultaneously, but then when I declared intent to hammer, you threw a fit? When I go back and read that exchange, all I see is you suspecting me over... being on the same wagon as you. You're mad because we agree? Are you embarrassed that someone else has similar ideas to you? It feels manipulative and nonsensical.

The idea that I might hammer is offensive and scummy, because only our glorious guardian angel
CoolRedNinja
may bestow upon us an elimination so that all credit can go to our dear leader
CoolRedNinja
. Champion of the Cat Facts newbie game
CoolRedNinja
who has all of the good ideas, and any ideas that are similar are clearly
STOLEN
and belong to their rightful thought-owner
CoolRedNinja
. Literally
NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY IDEAS
except
CoolRedNinja
. We are all peons in the game that
CoolRedNinja
personally owns and operates.
CoolRedNinja
may as well have the role list because
CoolRedNinja
is so smart and glorious, clearly all credit and intelligence and mesmerizing beauty goes
EXCLUSIVELY TO
CoolRedNinja
, the greatest player that has ever blessed the game,
CoolRedNinja
! We thank the gods, no,
CoolRedNinja
is among them,
NAY
,
CoolRedNinja
invented the gods themselves. Praise be to
CoolRedNinja
the inventor of Mafia!

Three cheers for
CoolRedNinja
!

CoolRedNinja!


CoolRedNinja!


CoolRedNinja!


. . .

Alright, is that enough glazing? Can we please just move on and get the scum out of here? We both know we're town. We both agree on what needs to be done. Let's just get it done. I'll give you all the credit. I don't care. I just want us to win.

We clearly have differences in reasoning, but also agree on some parts. It should be obvious we're both town, we both agree, and this weird tension and you constantly going after me feels contrived at best. Like as much as you want to talk about me having an ego, you've certainly been screaming about getting attention and credit for any and all things that happen in the game. Maybe you're mistaking perceived confidence for arrogance, when you're not confident yourself. Either way, it's kinda messed up how we agree on most things but then you want to constantly go after me. This ain't Highlander. We can agree. That's fine.
[Empathy] Medium Success. Tensions run high as the game nears its end. The Fool wants to win, this is not the post made by someone who feels like they’re going to lose the game anytime soon. The town has a very strong lead with both PR’s having claimed. Why then this hostility to cool red ninja?

You can maybe see some of the points made here, for the entirety of the game, at least for the larger plays CRN, and the fool have been on the same page. But why this would lead to hostility you’re unsure.

[Logic] Hard Success.

It is more than likely that the last of the mafia lays in NicoleandDime, or Fitz something or other. No one died last night, one was under protection by yourself, the other was jailed by the dapper tomato. Maybe one day even you could be as dapper as that tomato. So it’s very likely the post above is purely just complaining, rather than any real attempt at misdirection.

1. Makes sense to me.
2. Why is it so long though?

3. This post is obvscum
4. This post is obvtown

[Rhetoric] Trivial success.

This post is long because the fool makes longer posts, more carefully thought out, not some two sentence post of the first thought that pops into their head based off a skim.

[Inland Empire.]

You could learn from this.

[Logic] Challenging

The best bet is to keep your vote Fitz, or NicoleandDime.

Nicole was defending a scum slot much earlier in the game, and behaving in somewhat scummy ways, but the way the game has played out, may detract suspicion from them. Fitz was jailed the night no one died, that could be conclusive evidence that he is a killer. And let’s be honest, your earlier reads on the fool were relatively baseless, coming to nonsense conclusions only you could see, and in some cases conclusions based of factually incorrect assumptions. The cool red ninja, why have you not ISO-ed him yet? You should do that later.

1.
Keep Your vote on Fitz


2. Move your vote to NicoleandDime.

3. Move your vote to The Fool.

4. Move your vote to Cool red ninja.

5. [Electrochemistry Easy 8] Move your vote to yourself, and then convince everyone else to vote you.

6. [Rehtoric Impossible 20] Convince everyone the moderator is the last scum player.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:52 am

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Each post is looking more and more eldritch and indecipherable
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:56 am

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In post 831, NicoleAndDime wrote: E̷͖͎͂ả̶͕́ĉ̷̛̥h̴̪̐ ̵̢̮̈́͐p̵̛̠̕o̵̩̔s̸̨͈̾̓t̶̪̣̆ ̷̡͙̈̍i̸̪̣͝s̶͈̠̓̂ ̵̨̞̓̆l̸̲͊̃o̷̹̓ö̴̮̺́̄ǩ̵̩̼͝ḯ̶̥͉n̵̗̓̎g̶̀͜͝ ̸̠̄m̵̻͘ȏ̷̯̏r̸͉̅ḙ̵̤̌ ̵͈͕̃͝a̷̻͈͆̚n̵͙̂̾ḍ̷̨̍ ̸̺̉͝m̷̜̭͗ỏ̵̠́r̷̗̪͐ė̵̮͔ ̶͇̀̚e̵̯̊l̵͍͚̾d̴͙̳̍͘ŗ̷͉̍i̸̝̹̿͂t̴͇͙͑c̷̘͑ȟ̶̬̿ ̷̼̺̍a̵͇̖̍n̵̲̂̈d̴̪̥̾͆ ̸͈̑͐i̸̦̺̎n̵̡͐d̵͍̀e̵̪̊c̶̡͊̀į̸̮̕͝p̷̺̾h̸̪̒ȇ̷̼͖ṛ̴͚̈́à̵̼͉b̷̛̗̥͗ĺ̵̻͘e̸̝̳͆
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:20 pm

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In post 831, NicoleAndDime wrote: Each post is looking more and more eldritch and indecipherable
Like it Or not, Oranges are not Kale
But Enigmatic as Hiding In Nothingness, Dare
You Organize the Unknown
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:25 pm

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In post 833, The Fool wrote:
In post 831, NicoleAndDime wrote: Each post is looking more and more eldritch and indecipherable
Like it Or not, Oranges are not Kale
But Enigmatic as Hiding In Nothingness, Dare
You Organize the Unknown
Wow what cryptic text

Sure hope nothing bad is about to happen
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:35 pm

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In post 834, NicoleAndDime wrote:
In post 833, The Fool wrote:
In post 831, NicoleAndDime wrote: Each post is looking more and more eldritch and indecipherable
Like it Or not, Oranges are not Kale
But Enigmatic as Hiding In Nothingness, Dare
You Organize the Unknown
Wow what cryptic text

Sure hope nothing bad is about to happen
in anat where’s anat? Europe?
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:39 pm

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In post 835, Solidclaw wrote:
In post 834, NicoleAndDime wrote:
In post 833, The Fool wrote:
In post 831, NicoleAndDime wrote: Each post is looking more and more eldritch and indecipherable
Like it Or not, Oranges are not Kale
But Enigmatic as Hiding In Nothingness, Dare
You Organize the Unknown
Wow what cryptic text

Sure hope nothing bad is about to happen
in anat where’s anat? Europe?
I like your funny words magic man
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:48 pm

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is made in the style of Disco Elysium. Which I'd love to link here, but every short clip I can find has a lot of stuff I don't think is appropriate for this side of the site.
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:50 pm

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In post 829, The Fool wrote:
In post 821, CoolRedNinja wrote:Is it possible that both fitz and Nicole are town here?

This question is a
failure of logic
.


From my perspective as a VT, there are only 3 players possible in my scum pool: You, Nicole, and fitz.

If fitz and Nicole both flip town, you are my only option.

You claimed VT.
Your perspective should be identical
.


If Nicole and fitz both flipped town, your only option for scum is me.

Please bear with me, I'm trying to keep up with Mister Logical Mastermind here...

Let me get this straight: having the
identical perspective
as you (Nicole and fitz being town implicates the remaining VT claim) is a
failure of logic
?

Did you proofread that post? ... or did you get carried away Being Perfectly Normal, As Usual, what with all the pretty colors and chanting my name?

(Perish any notion of my proscribing such effusive sycophancy; votaries are always welcome. Your impromptu application, such as it is, has been accepted.)


However, VOTE: The Fool
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:02 pm

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In post 829, The Fool wrote:On that note, I don't understand why you even suspect me when we did the same thing. We both went after Scorp and forced the claim out. You seem to have this massive ego riding on the idea that you and you alone are the town savior who got the scum voted out, when you forget that the post where Scorp claimed quoted my post as the straw that broke, and afterward Posh CC'd and then Scorp self-hammered. It was a team effort. You pushed hard, I pushed hard, and Posh CC'd properly. It took all three of us to get that done. If either you or I were scum, it would have been trivially easy to give up the push and forget about it. Most other players were lightly suggesting Scorp should claim, but not putting any real pressure on it. We both pressured hard and got it done. It feels like the only reason you even suspect me is simply because you're jealous that I also contributed, and you want to take sole credit. Or you think I want to take sole credit? I've been pretty careful not to just gloat and act like I was the only one responsible for that push, but
it also feels like that's exactly what you're trying to do
.

You've been erasing my contributions all game, and it's incredibly, obnoxiously ironic. Especially when you'll use good logic to defend yourself, and then magically forget that the same logic applies to me...
in the same post
. Without even a sentence in between.

Look at this post:
In post 746, CoolRedNinja wrote:
You think I hard bussed yesterday, or what?
I'm also not seeing
why you would rather see a fitz lim than a Fool lim
, that sounds ... weird, but I want to hear your reasoning.
The only edits here were the highlight and I removed the quoted post that was being responded to. How do you not see the irony in this post?

Again, this has been happening all game. It's not just isolated to me, but it's certainly come up more than once with me. You remember how the entire town went after derm simultaneously, but then when I declared intent to hammer, you threw a fit? When I go back and read that exchange, all I see is you suspecting me over... being on the same wagon as you. You're mad because we agree? Are you embarrassed that someone else has similar ideas to you? It feels manipulative and nonsensical.

The idea that I might hammer is offensive and scummy, because only our glorious guardian angel
CoolRedNinja
may bestow upon us an elimination so that all credit can go to our dear leader
CoolRedNinja
. Champion of the Cat Facts newbie game
CoolRedNinja
who has all of the good ideas, and any ideas that are similar are clearly
STOLEN
and belong to their rightful thought-owner
CoolRedNinja
. Literally
NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY IDEAS
except
CoolRedNinja
. We are all peons in the game that
CoolRedNinja
personally owns and operates.
CoolRedNinja
may as well have the role list because
CoolRedNinja
is so smart and glorious, clearly all credit and intelligence and mesmerizing beauty goes
EXCLUSIVELY TO
CoolRedNinja
, the greatest player that has ever blessed the game,
CoolRedNinja
! We thank the gods, no,
CoolRedNinja
is among them,
NAY
,
CoolRedNinja
invented the gods themselves. Praise be to
CoolRedNinja
the inventor of Mafia!

Three cheers for
CoolRedNinja
!

CoolRedNinja!


CoolRedNinja!


CoolRedNinja!


. . .

Alright, is that enough glazing? Can we please just move on and get the scum out of here? We both know we're town. We both agree on what needs to be done. Let's just get it done. I'll give you all the credit. I don't care. I just want us to win.

We clearly have differences in reasoning, but also agree on some parts. It should be obvious we're both town, we both agree, and this weird tension and you constantly going after me feels contrived at best. Like as much as you want to talk about me having an ego, you've certainly been screaming about getting attention and credit for any and all things that happen in the game. Maybe you're mistaking perceived confidence for arrogance, when you're not confident yourself. Either way, it's kinda messed up how we agree on most things but then you want to constantly go after me. This ain't Highlander. We can agree. That's fine.

I'M SORRY OKAY
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:17 pm

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In post 830, Solidclaw wrote:[Empathy] Medium Success. Tensions run high as the game nears its end. The Fool wants to win, this is not the post made by someone who feels like they’re going to lose the game anytime soon. The town has a very strong lead with both PR’s having claimed. Why then this hostility to cool red ninja?

You can maybe see some of the points made here, for the entirety of the game, at least for the larger plays CRN, and the fool have been on the same page. But why this would lead to hostility you’re unsure.

[Logic] Hard Success.

It is more than likely that the last of the mafia lays in NicoleandDime, or Fitz something or other. No one died last night, one was under protection by yourself, the other was jailed by the dapper tomato. Maybe one day even you could be as dapper as that tomato. So it’s very likely the post above is purely just complaining, rather than any real attempt at misdirection.

1. Makes sense to me.
2. Why is it so long though?

3. This post is obvscum
4. This post is obvtown

[Rhetoric] Trivial success.

This post is long because the fool makes longer posts, more carefully thought out, not some two sentence post of the first thought that pops into their head based off a skim.

[Inland Empire.]

You could learn from this.

[Logic] Challenging

The best bet is to keep your vote Fitz, or NicoleandDime.

Nicole was defending a scum slot much earlier in the game, and behaving in somewhat scummy ways, but the way the game has played out, may detract suspicion from them. Fitz was jailed the night no one died, that could be conclusive evidence that he is a killer. And let’s be honest, your earlier reads on the fool were relatively baseless, coming to nonsense conclusions only you could see, and in some cases conclusions based of factually incorrect assumptions. The cool red ninja, why have you not ISO-ed him yet? You should do that later.

1.
Keep Your vote on Fitz


2. Move your vote to NicoleandDime.

3. Move your vote to The Fool.

4. Move your vote to Cool red ninja.

5. [Electrochemistry Easy 8] Move your vote to yourself, and then convince everyone else to vote you.

6. [Rehtoric Impossible 20] Convince everyone the moderator is the last scum player.

I giggled. A lot. Especially at the end. :giggle:
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:23 pm

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I'm going to take a page out of derm's book, and ask everybody who their favorite elimination target is, apart from the above two!
This is what I was referring to as the failure of logic.

You're asking this like it's a broad question.

Besides Nicole and fitz, it's just us. You're asking people who is scummier between you and I.

Except you also said "scum wouldn't bus their partner that hard" which also applies to me as well as you.

So if I'm trying to follow your train of thought, you think it's not likely Skelly was hard-bussed, therefore scum can't be you or I. And the hypothetical is if Nicole and fitz both flip town. We can't all four be town. That's impossible. Posh and Solid are confirmed PRs and there's only 6 players left.

Tell me exactly who could be scum if Posh and Solid are confirmed town, you and I are both town, and Nicole and fitz are also town. Figure that out for me exactly.
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:07 pm

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Okay so hear me out everyone, here's where I'm at:
  • fitz - He got jailed and there was no kill. So it's either he was the target, or he was the killer, or the real killer (him or otherwise) did not kill anyone.
  • Nicole - She did a lot of deflection from the Skelly/Scorp wagon, but then later did a bunch of admittedly very useful (or so it seems) setup speculation!
  • Fool - I just get kinda scummy vibes from Fool this game. A lot of rhetoric, a lot of push and pull, and not enough... idk. X factor? Kinda just ... there.
So I'm feeling as follows:
  • Mechanics-speculation-wise, it's potentially-blocked-fitz.
  • Potential-scumpal-track-record-wise, it could also be Nicole.
  • But overall I'm still just thinking it's fake-VT The Fool here.
Everything just makes sense to me if Fool tried to kill fitz and failed, and then all my weird gut scummy stuff that I've been feeling about Fool just falls into place, and everything wraps up all pretty with a Christmas bow. And that sounds like a good way to end the game for me.

TL;DR: CRN is Fool-lim-inclined. No relevant explanations besides "gut read lolz" but also no excuses.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:10 pm

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In post 841, The Fool wrote:Tell me exactly who could be scum if Posh and Solid are confirmed town, you and I are both town, and Nicole and fitz are also town. Figure that out for me exactly.

I don't assume you're town for any reason in this or any scenario unless you're one of the confirmed townies, which you aren't, so I don't get what the point of this statement is.

I know I'm town. I don't know you're town. I'm disinterested in playing along with ridiculous hypotheticals.
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:35 pm

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What we know, mixed with my reads (because this helped my brain to put it all together, and despite my mockery of the same, I too enjoy pretty colors, organization, and Reads Lists):



Publicly
confirmed town
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  • SMuffin

  • dermdg
Privately
confirmed town (the mod told me I'm town, that's good enough for me)
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  • CoolRedNinja
Un-counter-claimed
town power role claims
:
  • Mergill
    /
    PoshTomato

  • Solidclaw
Has been actively trying to game-solve and that's nice so I'm willing to give her a pass for today
:
  • NicoleAndDime
Those who I would be willing to eliminate today
:
  • havingfitz
    (Night action results could either confirm him as
    town
    or
    scum
    , we just don't know. I prefer to lim Fool over fitz, but if I can't swing a compromise on Fool then I will help lim fitz just to push the progress train forward)
  • The Fool
    (I've had scummy vibes from Fool since Skelly started getting SMuffin pressure on D1. What was 'undirected' chaotic energy from Fool suddenly seemed focused: alternately distractive, and conspicuously non-defensive)
Publicly
confirmed scum
:
  • SourGreenApple
    /
    Skelly
    /
    Scorpious



Hopefully this is helpful to anyone who has not been fully paying attention and/or just likes to see things spelled out like I do.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:38 pm

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In post 825, havingfitz wrote:I've made my points on NicoleAndDime.

It's probably tomorrow before I'd have time to ISO you [The Fool] and/or CRN and I don't see it changing where my suspicions are.

You [The Fool] seem to be the 2nd favorite lim today but I'm not interested in you vice NicoleAndDime atm.

Does me being willing to lim you over Nicole (in the case I can't convince people to lim Fool instead) make you want to lim me more or less? :lol:

If you're town, do you think I'm dumb for giving Nicole a pass for all the conspicuously conspicuous gamesolvery she's been doing this game day?
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:49 am

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In post 845, CoolRedNinja wrote: Does me being willing to lim you over Nicole (in the case I can't convince people to lim Fool instead) make you want to lim me more or less?

My scumpool is NicoleAndDime, The Fool and you. I'm of course going to view efforts to lynch me with suspicion...but also recognize town make mistakes and therefore everyone looking to lim me can't be scum. Would it make me want to lim you? No. But assuming I was not lim'd today and you and I were still here tomorrow it would be something to consider.

In post 845, CoolRedNinja wrote: If you're town, do you think I'm dumb for giving Nicole a pass for all the conspicuously conspicuous gamesolvery she's been doing this game day?

"Gamesolvery" is not AI. Anyone could have voiced the same game probabilities/COAs as NicoleAndDime. The fact you are giving her a pass today is the exact reason scum would do it.
Do I think you are dumb? No.
Do I think it is a mistake to give NicoleAndDime a pass for NAI "gamesolvery" chat? Yes.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:11 am

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OK, fair answers to both
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:31 am

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Seeking a replacement for PoshTomato; deadline will pause when it hits 48 hours.
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:31 am

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