Mini Theme 2366: Sea World Olympics Day 2 (10/12)

[T-Bone]

And if nothing else Bree has started explaining herself and that's what I look for especially early on. I want players to explain themselves and take stances on things. And it's like I have to weigh do I dislike the style or substance?

[rBree2]

Funny enough this series of posts at least hints there could be some depth to Bree's game.

Of course there's depth to my game, I've been playing on mafiascum since 2008.

My main tools are asking questions, engaging with people, votes that aren't vanity, and readslists. I try to be as lazy and casual and effortless as I can be but my inner tryhard does get ahold of me unfortunately.

[T-Bone]

I will never scumtead you for taking an opportunity joke. I do it all the time regardless of game state

[rBree2]

You talked me into it good job Bree

I've seen you case Jake so I won't ask why you're voting him.

I will ask, what talked you into it? And are there other players you would vote atm?

[rBree2]

bree's "i vote my townreads sometimes to advance the gamestate" post is basically just a copout to never have to explain voting patterns or where the vote is in general which is extremely counterproductive for the people actually trying to find scum.

I can be held accountable for voting townreads when I have a choice in who to vote!

[T-Bone]

The talked me into it comment was about you changing my perception of you a little bit today.

The short answer is most players when it came down to it. I think Annaflare is probably town, and I respect herodualites for starting my wagon (and also I think there's a newbie earnest that I have no reason to think they are faking).

If it came down to it I am always in favor of yeeting a low content slot. Too many players hanging around like that are bad for the game state for town.

But I'm a deliberate player when it comes to moving my vote around. So sometimes I move it a lot and sometimes I lock in. We'll see what happens.

[rBree2]

I see that but I'm taking it at face value as "my reads aren't certain".

basically, yeah.

I have reads. I try to keep them as fluid and loose as possible--although I admit my reads are kinda stagnant atm.

I've had varying degrees of scumreads on the same two players. Wavering, but not going away.

Ditto for townreads.

[Ultra Annaflare]

I see that but I'm taking it at face value as "my reads aren't certain".

basically, yeah.

I have reads. I try to keep them as fluid and loose as possible--although I admit my reads are kinda stagnant atm.

I've had varying degrees of scumreads on the same two players. Wavering, but not going away.

Ditto for townreads.

what are your townreads and why

[rBree2]

And it's like I have to weigh do I dislike the style or substance?

I think as a site we have a large tendency to equate dislike to scum and like to town when 90+% of what we like/dislike is personality and playstyle, thus, nai.

For instance, I love your posts, and your efforts to advance the gamestate. I like your reasons and your presence.

I don't townread it though. I have an emotional

want

to, but being honest, being objective, I recognize I like your personality and playstyle, but that doesn't make you town.

[rBree2]

need a nap, so will raincheck processing 405 and after until I've rested.

[Jake from State Farm]

Vonnadog is town easiest townlock of my life

Sadly I agree.

UNVOTE:

[Jake from State Farm]

And it's like I have to weigh do I dislike the style or substance?

I think as a site we have a large tendency to equate dislike to scum and like to town when 90+% of what we like/dislike is personality and playstyle, thus, nai.

For instance, I love your posts, and your efforts to advance the gamestate. I like your reasons and your presence.

I don't townread it though. I have an emotional

want

to, but being honest, being objective, I recognize I like your personality and playstyle, but that doesn't make you town.

Which posts do you like?

[Ultra Annaflare]

Vonnadog is town easiest townlock of my life

Sadly I agree.

UNVOTE:

can you please explain exactly what changed your mind between 4 hours ago and now?

Scum play is more likely to come from somebody who wants to distract from scum hunting, somebody who probably focuses on stuff that doesn’t matter as much. Like how many scum people think there are.

my posts are clearly driving discussion.

pointless discussion sure.

where did these convictions go?

[Jake from State Farm]

VOTE: skelly

[Jake from State Farm]

I stand by my opinions of you but after thinking about it though, I think you’re probably town.

[Ultra Annaflare]

so you think that I am intentionally distracting from scumhunting by engaging in pointless discussion, and also that I am town?

can you explain your thought process? was it t-bone's posts that convinced you? was it one of my follow-up posts? please be specific.

[Jake from State Farm]

No I think you think what you are doing is productive. It’s not but your actions and the things you say seem just make me feel like you’re town. That’s why I made that wow comment. I’ll keep my actual thoughts to myself but yeah I just think you’re town.

[Immortal Technique]

VOTE: skelly

?

[Ultra Annaflare]

No I think you think what you are doing is productive. It’s not but your actions and the things you say seem just make me feel like you’re town. That’s why I made that wow comment. I’ll keep my actual thoughts to myself but yeah I just think you’re town.

so you're saying that this post:

wow lol

which was a naked reply to my reads list, was meant to be taken as "wow lol, the way you articulate your reads in this posts makes me think you're town!"

I find that hard to believe. why didn't you unvote in that post if that's how you felt?

also, you think what I'm doing is productive now. can you point to a specific post, made between #369 and now, that swapped your evaluation of my posting from "pointless" to "productive"?

because it seems to me like you simply smelled the winds of change sometime after your 'wow lol' comment and realized public sentiment was changing, and are now retroactively recontexualizing your post to be more favourable to your current manufactured read on me.

[Jake from State Farm]

Based on the last VC they were the only viable wagon I wanted to be on. I was suspicious of the slot before the hydra became skelly and skelly hasn’t done anything to change my opinion.

[Ultra Annaflare]

wait I misread your post #416. ignore the "can you point to a specific post, made between #369 and now, that swapped your evaluation of my posting from "pointless" to "productive"?" question

[Jake from State Farm]

“wow lol, the way you articulate your reads in this posts makes me think you're town!"

I wouldn’t say it like that but yes something you said in that post made me think you were town. I’ll leave it at that.

[Ultra Annaflare]

fair enough i guess. I still don't really believe that a reasonable person would make such an ambiguous post like that. it could be read as easily in any direction, like 'wow lol your reads are bad' vs 'wow lol your reads are good' vs 'wow lol your reads are bad but i think you're town anyway' making such a vague posts and then giving us what you were

really

thinking hours later when you can see how others react is not a good look.

i still like my vote on bree right now.

[Jake from State Farm]

I said wow because that’s honestly what I felt. Then I logged off because I’m trying not to post when im riled up. I’m not trying to argue with people so I walked away and dropped my scum read on you. I don’t really need you to believe me.

[Ultra Annaflare]

hmm ok