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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 8:57 am

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In post 2298, SmileyDude1 wrote:
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Spartan117 (2) :
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UnaBombaH (1) :
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Looker, geraintm, Spartan117, Bellaphant
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate. The day will end in (expired on 2025-05-27 16:26:45).

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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 8:58 am

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In post 2297, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 2295, Black wrote:
In post 2294, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 2291, Black wrote: Ahh. I wasn't trying to misrep you but I did misunderstand you. I thought you meant that your SE reread wasn't helping your Looker!scum read. My bad
oh no not at all, i just meant the re-read wasnt helping my thought that they was scum cos their posts i was reading at the time seemed townie. would have prob helped if i had spaced it out a bit more maybe.

Why would you townread 3 posts that you called distancing?
no i town read the very first post and have been getting more of a townie feel from loads of other posts i was reading, ive not been posting them all, although i wanna get back to that but was trying to respond to you.

I'm confused why you jumped from one townie post to three scummy ones if you were townread a bunch of his other posts?
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 8:58 am

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From my pov if delta and gera are conf town and im town locking bella and black that leaves looker una and enchant.

I was thinking more looker but then i thought about the nk and how im pretty sure HEM was defending looker day 2 and pushing lims elsewhere so i dont really understand scum looker night killing HEM i understand there is the protective aspect but i think he was his main or only advocate for not limming him yesterday right? just doesnt feel right but maybe the protective aspect was just enough of a reason?
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:00 am

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I feel like that student in the class which made in the university only with unspeakable amount of bribes.
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:00 am

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In post 2301, Black wrote:
In post 2297, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 2295, Black wrote:
In post 2294, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 2291, Black wrote: Ahh. I wasn't trying to misrep you but I did misunderstand you. I thought you meant that your SE reread wasn't helping your Looker!scum read. My bad
oh no not at all, i just meant the re-read wasnt helping my thought that they was scum cos their posts i was reading at the time seemed townie. would have prob helped if i had spaced it out a bit more maybe.

Why would you townread 3 posts that you called distancing?
no i town read the very first post and have been getting more of a townie feel from loads of other posts i was reading, ive not been posting them all, although i wanna get back to that but was trying to respond to you.

I'm confused why you jumped from one townie post to three scummy ones if you were townread a bunch of his other posts?
i quoted them in order of when i read them and i didnt feel like the distancing was enough to push back the towniness of their vote onto the BS wagon idk it could all be nai but im just trying to get a better read on their slot, ive also got something else in mind im trying to find also.
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:01 am

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In post 2301, Black wrote:
In post 2297, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 2295, Black wrote:
In post 2294, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 2291, Black wrote: Ahh. I wasn't trying to misrep you but I did misunderstand you. I thought you meant that your SE reread wasn't helping your Looker!scum read. My bad
oh no not at all, i just meant the re-read wasnt helping my thought that they was scum cos their posts i was reading at the time seemed townie. would have prob helped if i had spaced it out a bit more maybe.

Why would you townread 3 posts that you called distancing?
no i town read the very first post and have been getting more of a townie feel from loads of other posts i was reading, ive not been posting them all, although i wanna get back to that but was trying to respond to you.

I'm confused why you jumped from one townie post to three scummy ones if you were townread a bunch of his other posts?
a lot of it is also vibes which arent worth quoting
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:04 am

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If you think moving someone around in a PoE list is worth quoting then surely they are :lol:
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:08 am

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People think i allow my teammate to claim fruit vendor as goon.

Never in live. If Radja claimed Neapolitan then okay maybe you have some sort of reason to suspect me, but Fruit Vendor.

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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:10 am

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In post 2306, Black wrote: If you think moving someone around in a PoE list is worth quoting then surely they are :lol:
idk, im just trying my best to tell if they are scum or not, it doesnt help i keep seeing reasons as to why other slots arent, like i feel for different reasons that looker and una could both be town but that only leaves enchant/SE left and im just not sure, i know it doesnt totally matter if we get it in the next elim but i would like to be able to.
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:11 am

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In post 2307, Enchant wrote: People think i allow my teammate to claim fruit vendor as goon.

Never in live. If Radja claimed Neapolitan then okay maybe you have some sort of reason to suspect me, but Fruit Vendor.

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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:15 am

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I think pretty much anyone will say it's silly idea.


Only Looker and Black will seriously propose it, but i am not sure if i want to read in that part.
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:24 am

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In post 1214, Radja wrote: I'm not sold on SE. HEM/Looker is fine with me
protecting SEs slot hmm
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:47 am

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Is anyone else here and willing to engage on who to elim today?
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 9:54 am

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Sorry Delta, something has come up and I can't dig into Una right now but you have my word I'll do it tomorrow after work
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:13 am

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In post 554, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 539, humaneatingmonkey wrote: i think pressure on una will give thread fresh air, because he hasnt really delivered on his promises of rediscovering his scumhunting self

im interested why he thinks bugs is town, for example
I am not saying bugs is town. ;)
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:15 am

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Ok so I had 15 minutes to spare so I decided to read Una's first 50 posts or so. I do kinda think his early read on Radja feels like it could be informed. I just don't think is scummy enough for the level of conviction Una has here


@una can you explain this scum ping a bit more? You were kinda cryptic about it in and I don't really understand what you are getting at
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:16 am

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In post 336, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 94, Deltabreedy wrote: I'd probably say that the scum on my wagon is the 2nd or 3rd vote on it - bugsprays is a little too on the nose as a naked vote, I don't feel that scum joins the wagon there sans clothing.

Discounting the first (bella) as that's just RVS, and then also on balance going to suggest that Blacks vote was more driven by RVS shenanigans than anything else. Roden hopping on quietly is the only one that doesn't have any of those mitigating factors.

UNVOTE: Black
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This post somehow slid under my radat initially! :o Scum scum scum scum.

Can you also go over why you didn't swap from Radja to Delta here?
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:19 am

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In post 508, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 467, Deltabreedy wrote: I'd be okay with (in order), a HEM, a Hu Tao, a Roden or a Una lim today.
That's an ambitious list.
I am not going today for sure
, and I'd argue that HEM would be a wasteful D1 flip as well.

Just want to point out this soft so scum have to think about shooting here if he really is town :lol:
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:21 am

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In post 512, UnaBombaH wrote: Oh wow, they actually got a wagon going on me. Disappointed. :(
If you want to get the most out of me, at least avoid a quick hammer within a ~48h period.
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In post 476, Bellaphant wrote: Deltas list is probably town, probably town, idek and a scum

VOTE: una
OK, Bella is scum. :]

VOTE: Bella
Can you explain your thought process here? This just looks like an OMGUS vote, and with no one else voting Bella there's pretty much no pressure.
Sure, but only surface level while I'm still just phoneposting.
Bellas vote on me is either scum- or paranoia-motivated. Neither of which we need around.
It's hard to explain without giving ISO context, but you can see it from how they've interactrd with me so far. They tried the appeasing/friendly method, and poked around to see how I react. They softed shade on me to see how I react. And immediately once there was a pathway to get a wagon on me going without them having to push for it alone, they jumped to a vote.

It's to get me out of the game without having to spend a NK on me, and before I'll eventually "Hard commit" and rally people to wagon them. There was very real, and also underlying pressure building towards them too. And like said ^^ this could also be paranoid/survivalistic town, but when it comes to D1 I'd rather just call that scum as well. Because it only does disservice to the rest of town. Ugh.


I do think this sequence is townie. Realizing there's a wagon on you >> can't dive deep due to phone posting >> willingly giving naturally feeling thoughts anyway
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:22 am

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Ok I'm late I'll pick this back up maybe before bed but most likely tomorrow after work
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:31 am

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In post 781, Spartan117 wrote: @delta, if Bugspray flips scum do you think there are any scum on their wagon, I know you are sus of two of them at least.

This is so sus :lol:

ok i'm really leaving
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:33 am

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In post 761, Spartan117 wrote: @Bugspray, if you are scum who would your scum team be?

I've never seen town ask this question in my life btw
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:33 am

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In post 2320, Black wrote:
In post 781, Spartan117 wrote: @delta, if Bugspray flips scum do you think there are any scum on their wagon, I know you are sus of two of them at least.

This is so sus :lol:

ok i'm really leaving
Why is that sus... literally asking a slot I thought might be killed night 1 on a wagon I thought would flip scum, I was trying to get more info from delta encase they didn't make it to day 2.
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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:35 am

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In post 2321, Black wrote:
In post 761, Spartan117 wrote: @Bugspray, if you are scum who would your scum team be?

I've never seen town ask this question in my life btw
You have.... right there, you sussed this before what's wrong with trying to get more info from a slot that I was reading scum and see how they either might try and throw shade on other slots or double bluff and name another scum member
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Wed May 21, 2025 10:41 am

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In post 913, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 909, bugspray wrote:
In post 873, Bellaphant wrote: Tracker is useless for clears though.
I don't think we would get a tracker if it was useless for clears in the setup
Here one minute, gone the next, doesn't seen willing to help town.

HEM, Una, Gera, any of yous willing to put bugs onto E-1 so we can end this day?
In post 926, Spartan117 wrote: HEM, we need a vote from you una or gera if we are to get this day to end given the inactivity in this game.


Spartan tried really hard to make sure he was bug's hammer vote. If Spartan is scum it is crystal clear that the plan was for Spartan to deepwolf here. This is further evident by Spartan coming into today using the fact that he hammered bug as a reason why he's town ("I was the first one on Radjas wagon and the one to hammer Bugspray")
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