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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2025 7:38 pm

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In post 1437, Immortal Technique wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Sheep Black, Prof, Dunn, and I

Drink some whiskey

Sums it up
i don't know about that list to sheep. I think dunnstral is probably town rn though.
I will steal a bottle of whiskey though
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:13 pm

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In post 1450, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1437, Immortal Technique wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Sheep Black, Prof, Dunn, and I

Drink some whiskey

Sums it up
i don't know about that list to sheep. I think dunnstral is probably town rn though.
I will steal a bottle of whiskey though
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:52 pm

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In post 1439, Dunnstral wrote: The shop investigative (gun inspection) is not very powerful until there are less mafia alive. And Motion Detector seems really weak when most or all players have a compulsive active ability.
I probably told everyone with these to target me and lose them no?
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:23 am

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In post 1449, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1440, Dunnstral wrote: -Gammagooey was roleblocked while performing the kill
-Gammagooey was protected from the kill
knowing gammagoey i can see both of these as possibilities

Heyyyyy Firebringer what's up? Thank you for believing in me, unlike the haters (ProfDrap is the hater)

In post 1440, Dunnstral wrote: hasdgfas claims to have tried to target Murder Plant, but their action failed. Due to their claimed goo ability, we know (or think we know) that Murder Plant was not the person who roleblocked them.
I don't think the goo "info" we have means that the hasdgfas-roleblock definitely didn't come from Murder Plant (or rephrased, I think its possible that the hascow roleblock was just Murder Plant)? But I also think that a) scum definitely have a few Power roles and at least 1 (prob 2+) are going to be useful, given the number of PR claims we have so far, that most? (or at least several, but I think some people didn't bother to claim if they were compulsive or not which is fine) have been compulsive, that it all feeds into the goo mechanic, aaand that they're needed to not have the game break from the shop system.

(Reason for that is this mod clarification seems to indicate to me that if Murder Plant HAD touched cow, I don't think they would change into Green goo for the purposes of transforming other people until end of night after "being actioned", and then White goo makes the flip invisible after? I think. )
To clarify, ability-granting or ability-changing effects happen at the end of the night. Investigations during the same night will reflect these changes.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:31 am

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Also, one more mechanical thing to note:
If you want to use something from the shop night 2, it must be bought during the day today.

Each player starts with 10 Slimecoins. You can spend these Slimecoins on items from the shop. You may purchase items during the day, publicly, or at night, privately. If you want to purchase items during the day, post Purchase: <item>
in bold.
Purchasing items at night does not use up your night action, but you cannot use items you purchased on the same night.
I'm personally leaning towards grabbing Bodyguard & Mail Delivery for myself, and probably but not 100% using bodyguard tonight if we flip town with the elim, a little closer to 50/50 if we flip scum.
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:44 am

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In post 1396, Dunnstral wrote: Human has some suspicious posts and a weird progression. From struggling to see me as town at end of day 1, to voting for Immortal Technique while saying Delta and I could be mafia, to saying everyone knows why Delta is mafia.

VOTE: Human
First of all thank you for voting someone I am a fan of voting people it looks v. good on you.

Second, why do you see them struggling to see you as town as scummy? Is it part of a progression you don't like or do they have experience with you-town that you think they should have connected with your current play or what's the deal there exactly?
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:59 am

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I didn't mean to say that them suspecting me was scummy, that is part of their weird progression.
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:19 pm

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In post 1417, ProfessorDrapion wrote: VOTE: GammaGoo

Delta at least claimed Investigative, meaning if we keep him alive for a day he could prove himself tonight depending on his investigation role so I want to go for someone who ain’t Investigative.
Anything other than "No Claim!" on the Gooey case?
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:19 pm

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In post 1419, ProfessorDrapion wrote: At the end of the day we can solve this game through Mech Clears.
I think goos are going to get in the way of that
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:23 pm

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In post 1437, Immortal Technique wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Sheep Black, Prof, Dunn, and I

Drink some whiskey

Sums it up
Why Black? You've explained Dunn and I agree with Prof, but I just haven't really seen Black even being in game that much.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:25 pm

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In post 1439, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1435, Firebringer wrote:
In post 0, Ultra Annaflare wrote: (1$) Slimecoin Vendor: You target another player at night. They receive one Slimecoin.
(2$) Rent My Vote: If you have somehow lost your vote, you regain use of it for the rest of the game day. (can only be purchased during the day).
(3$) Motion Detector: Target another player at night. You receive a positive result if they took an action or had an action performed on them, and negative otherwise.
(4$) Bodyguard: You target another player at night. If they are targeted by any killing-type effects this night, you receive them instead.
(5$) Buy My Vote: If you have somehow lost your vote, you regain use of it. Just don't lose it again!
(6$) Mail Delivery: You commute and become untargetable this night. You may send a 20-word message to any player.
(7$) Gun Inspection: Target a player at night. You learn if the target performed a killing-type action this night.
(8$) Reload: Target a player at night. You restore all of the target's 1-shot abilities. This includes abilities they may have purchased from the shop and have expended.
Hmmm is there some way to break this game by just giving all the coins to certain players and then having them night check/be guarded as well.

Dunnstral/Enchant u cracked the mech on this yet?
The shop investigative (gun inspection) is not very powerful until there are less mafia alive. And Motion Detector seems really weak when most or all players have a compulsive active ability.

Reload depends on other players claims. Nothing sticks out yet.

Bodyguard is good with other claimed investigatives.
In post 1440, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Murder Plant was a survivor with the goo ability to steal visitors vote for 1 day. They were the only death and Suguri is claiming a vigilante kill on them, so the mafia kill is unaccounted for. Suguri, Enchant, Deltabreedy, and myself all visited Murder Plant at night and have lost our votes for 1 day. Gammagooey was jailkept. Murder Plant was also a compulsive roleblocker.

So pick one of these to have happened:

-Suguri is lying
-One of the three other players are mafia who cross killed with Suguri
-Gammagooey was roleblocked while performing the kill
-Gammagooey was protected from the kill
-Murder Plant roleblocked the kill (we don't know their target)
-Something else we don't know.


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hasdgfas claims to have tried to target Murder Plant, but their action failed. Due to their claimed goo ability, we know (or think we know) that Murder Plant was not the person who roleblocked them.
ProfessorDrapion is claiming a gunsmith inno on GamerGryff
These STRONGLY remind me of a scum!Dunn game where their biggest post was an breakdown of the setup, in a newbie game where the mod would be very likely to discuss setup mech if asked.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:44 pm

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In post 1459, Human wrote:
In post 1437, Immortal Technique wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Sheep Black, Prof, Dunn, and I

Drink some whiskey

Sums it up
Why Black? You've explained Dunn and I agree with Prof, but I just haven't really seen Black even being in game that much.
There is a level of trust you have to afford me here, regarding Black

Also, can't leave her out of the whiskey party
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:45 pm

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In post 1458, Human wrote:
In post 1419, ProfessorDrapion wrote: At the end of the day we can solve this game through Mech Clears.
I think goos are going to get in the way of that
I do agree with this
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:54 pm

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In post 1460, Human wrote:
In post 1439, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1435, Firebringer wrote:
In post 0, Ultra Annaflare wrote: (1$) Slimecoin Vendor: You target another player at night. They receive one Slimecoin.
(2$) Rent My Vote: If you have somehow lost your vote, you regain use of it for the rest of the game day. (can only be purchased during the day).
(3$) Motion Detector: Target another player at night. You receive a positive result if they took an action or had an action performed on them, and negative otherwise.
(4$) Bodyguard: You target another player at night. If they are targeted by any killing-type effects this night, you receive them instead.
(5$) Buy My Vote: If you have somehow lost your vote, you regain use of it. Just don't lose it again!
(6$) Mail Delivery: You commute and become untargetable this night. You may send a 20-word message to any player.
(7$) Gun Inspection: Target a player at night. You learn if the target performed a killing-type action this night.
(8$) Reload: Target a player at night. You restore all of the target's 1-shot abilities. This includes abilities they may have purchased from the shop and have expended.
Hmmm is there some way to break this game by just giving all the coins to certain players and then having them night check/be guarded as well.

Dunnstral/Enchant u cracked the mech on this yet?
The shop investigative (gun inspection) is not very powerful until there are less mafia alive. And Motion Detector seems really weak when most or all players have a compulsive active ability.

Reload depends on other players claims. Nothing sticks out yet.

Bodyguard is good with other claimed investigatives.
In post 1440, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Murder Plant was a survivor with the goo ability to steal visitors vote for 1 day. They were the only death and Suguri is claiming a vigilante kill on them, so the mafia kill is unaccounted for. Suguri, Enchant, Deltabreedy, and myself all visited Murder Plant at night and have lost our votes for 1 day. Gammagooey was jailkept. Murder Plant was also a compulsive roleblocker.

So pick one of these to have happened:

-Suguri is lying
-One of the three other players are mafia who cross killed with Suguri
-Gammagooey was roleblocked while performing the kill
-Gammagooey was protected from the kill
-Murder Plant roleblocked the kill (we don't know their target)
-Something else we don't know.


Further information:

hasdgfas claims to have tried to target Murder Plant, but their action failed. Due to their claimed goo ability, we know (or think we know) that Murder Plant was not the person who roleblocked them.
ProfessorDrapion is claiming a gunsmith inno on GamerGryff
These STRONGLY remind me of a scum!Dunn game where their biggest post was an breakdown of the setup, in a newbie game where the mod would be very likely to discuss setup mech if asked.
And what do you expect my response to 1435 to be?
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:56 pm

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Spoiler: quote
In post 1463, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1460, Human wrote:
In post 1439, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1435, Firebringer wrote:
In post 0, Ultra Annaflare wrote: (1$) Slimecoin Vendor: You target another player at night. They receive one Slimecoin.
(2$) Rent My Vote: If you have somehow lost your vote, you regain use of it for the rest of the game day. (can only be purchased during the day).
(3$) Motion Detector: Target another player at night. You receive a positive result if they took an action or had an action performed on them, and negative otherwise.
(4$) Bodyguard: You target another player at night. If they are targeted by any killing-type effects this night, you receive them instead.
(5$) Buy My Vote: If you have somehow lost your vote, you regain use of it. Just don't lose it again!
(6$) Mail Delivery: You commute and become untargetable this night. You may send a 20-word message to any player.
(7$) Gun Inspection: Target a player at night. You learn if the target performed a killing-type action this night.
(8$) Reload: Target a player at night. You restore all of the target's 1-shot abilities. This includes abilities they may have purchased from the shop and have expended.
Hmmm is there some way to break this game by just giving all the coins to certain players and then having them night check/be guarded as well.

Dunnstral/Enchant u cracked the mech on this yet?
The shop investigative (gun inspection) is not very powerful until there are less mafia alive. And Motion Detector seems really weak when most or all players have a compulsive active ability.

Reload depends on other players claims. Nothing sticks out yet.

Bodyguard is good with other claimed investigatives.
In post 1440, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Murder Plant was a survivor with the goo ability to steal visitors vote for 1 day. They were the only death and Suguri is claiming a vigilante kill on them, so the mafia kill is unaccounted for. Suguri, Enchant, Deltabreedy, and myself all visited Murder Plant at night and have lost our votes for 1 day. Gammagooey was jailkept. Murder Plant was also a compulsive roleblocker.

So pick one of these to have happened:

-Suguri is lying
-One of the three other players are mafia who cross killed with Suguri
-Gammagooey was roleblocked while performing the kill
-Gammagooey was protected from the kill
-Murder Plant roleblocked the kill (we don't know their target)
-Something else we don't know.


Further information:

hasdgfas claims to have tried to target Murder Plant, but their action failed. Due to their claimed goo ability, we know (or think we know) that Murder Plant was not the person who roleblocked them.
ProfessorDrapion is claiming a gunsmith inno on GamerGryff
These STRONGLY remind me of a scum!Dunn game where their biggest post was an breakdown of the setup, in a newbie game where the mod would be very likely to discuss setup mech if asked.
And what do you expect my response to 1435 to be?

Kind of less suspicious as a response tbf, but it's mainly part of a pattern that I've been noticing
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 3:57 pm

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In post 1453, Gammagooey wrote: Heyyyyy Firebringer what's up? Thank you for believing in me, unlike the haters (ProfDrap is the hater)
not much, whats been up with u
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 3:59 pm

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I have lost track of this game with the long weekend. What's the case on Delta beyond "lost his vote and we like other people more"?
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 3:59 pm

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In post 1461, Immortal Technique wrote:
In post 1459, Human wrote:
In post 1437, Immortal Technique wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Sheep Black, Prof, Dunn, and I

Drink some whiskey

Sums it up
Why Black? You've explained Dunn and I agree with Prof, but I just haven't really seen Black even being in game that much.
There is a level of trust you have to afford me here, regarding Black

Also, can't leave her out of the whiskey party
i feel like u shouldn't trust black here but i have yet to read a black post here. I get the idea this is a mech read ur making for some reason so ill drop it but yeah idk why i would trust black reads even if she is town here. Not to be rude to black but her reads in like the last 3-4 games ive seen of her have not left me going i want to blind sheep her even if i think she is town
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:03 pm

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In post 1460, Human wrote: These STRONGLY remind me of a scum!Dunn game where their biggest post was an breakdown of the setup, in a newbie game where the mod would be very likely to discuss setup mech if asked.
do u think dunnstral talking about mech is a tell? How much experience u have with dunnyboi
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:09 pm

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In post 1467, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1461, Immortal Technique wrote:
In post 1459, Human wrote:
In post 1437, Immortal Technique wrote:
In post 1436, Firebringer wrote: I am not going to bother reading past game days people can give me a tldr or something, i plan to going easy mode on this game.
Sheep Black, Prof, Dunn, and I

Drink some whiskey

Sums it up
Why Black? You've explained Dunn and I agree with Prof, but I just haven't really seen Black even being in game that much.
There is a level of trust you have to afford me here, regarding Black

Also, can't leave her out of the whiskey party
i feel like u shouldn't trust black here but i have yet to read a black post here. I get the idea this is a mech read ur making for some reason so ill drop it but yeah idk why i would trust black reads even if she is town here. Not to be rude to black but her reads in like the last 3-4 games ive seen of her have not left me going i want to blind sheep her even if i think she is town
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:11 pm

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In post 1468, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1460, Human wrote: These STRONGLY remind me of a scum!Dunn game where their biggest post was an breakdown of the setup, in a newbie game where the mod would be very likely to discuss setup mech if asked.
do u think dunnstral talking about mech is a tell? How much experience u have with dunnyboi
Oh I get the urge to suss dunnyboi for over mech talk, but it ain't it here I am afraid
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:50 pm

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Dunn is scummy mech.

Provides "variants" of what would happened, but does not make theories or take sides.

Townie would atleast argue something like "it's this and this, but i think it's This and we should do this".
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:50 pm

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I am shocked you had him as counter d1, now suddenly you trust him when you should not.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:53 pm

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I don't think you've spoken about much else rather than Dunn.

I also feel like according to your own read and your rep as being fairly good at the mechanics, you've offered rather less in terms of both information and guidance on the mech setup. I don't know how seriously I can take this point against Dunn in that context, coming from you.

'Townie would do [X]', to paraphrase - but notably I dont think you have? What should turn my head away from Town!Dunn here in your view?
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:58 pm

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Womp womp.
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