Danganronpa Mafia [Endgame]

[Bell]

You're still going to replace into a town slot more than a scum slot because there are more town slots than scum slots to replace out of.

[Bell]

I suppose the analogy fails in multiple respects.
If you want to be town chances are you're going to be town when you're in a game. And you're more than likely to replace into a town a lot than a scum slot. But between joining a game from
The beginning and replacing into a game you're more likely to end up as a scum player than if you just joined in the beginning.

I also don't think this thinking applies to this specific game because you got to choose your alignment, well. Somewhat.

I just don't think enchant resents replacing into scum slots, and it was more the specific position they found themselves in that sucked.

[ProfessorDrapion]

It would be inadvisable to mass claim. Doing so might result in... punishments for naughty students.

The time has come. Mass claim, students!

Some dude with a guitar. Mechanically similar to Watcher

No.

No.

My favourite moment.

[ProfessorDrapion]

the situation with the replace out has nothing to do with anything alignment wise. kawaiikame has a long history of repping out that's due to his rl circumstances/interest with the game/attention etc and are not alignment indicative. its wild that someone would do a kill and then go MIA, most players wouldn't even think of doing that, so imo the odds of this game having a scum repout due to inactivity is extremely low. this was a very player specific scenario.

also even though I do 'cheat' before replacing in because I tend to read the ISOs or like one page and decide the player is likely town and yolo it, I don't think I repped into a scum slot since 2023. and I do rep in quite a lot I think.

Imagine if you replaced into Kawaii’s slot instead.

[Aureal]

Yes. But compared to rolling normally you're more likely to be scum.

Nah. If you try to investigate the game, you can get better odds of being town than just randing pre-game. I typically investigate in some form before repping in. I've always been right about the slot being town. The only time I got a scum rep-in was the time I knowingly took a big chance on a major PoE lurker, because I had a moment of weakness seeing three slots needing replacement and got too impatient instead of wait for the last one which was the only towny one. I had been reading the game and reeeeeeally just wanted to get in so I could yell at people about how obviously town IT was and didn't really consider how awful it would be to actually be scum against Gimli again.

[Aureal]

I do think the kills needed to end with mafia either having 3 players or being totally buffed at 2. or being able to recruit an unwilling townie to their team.

Would say this is reasonable.
The setup seems designed to adhere to the same principle that governs how killing works in Danganronpa, i.e., the students choose whether to kill, and who to kill. Though incorporating both of these ideals to the letter seems to disadvantage scum in some way.
Alternatively if a student tries to kill a blackened then they could be notified their target is blackened, the death fails, and forced to kill someone else. Or something.

And +1 to revisiting the Danganronpa theme as many others expressed.

I agree that allowing Blackened cross-kills seems undesirable. Obviously you can't just have a kill fail due to the player being Blackened and allow the wannabe killer continue on as town, knowing that their kill failed therefore their target is probably Blackened already. I'd probably have players submit their murder in the form of an ordered list- rank 5 players and they murder the first valid target, skipping any other players who are Blackened or otherwise unkillable there.

Also, I read the PTs and I'm quite amused by the possibility that the spy camera I sent Naerys and was going to try to suggest she use to watch me could have spotted C-Worl's hydra coming to try to poison me like they were thinking of doing. That sure would've caused a lot of confusion! XD

[Tangion]

how did you read the PT's?

[Auro]

Sorry Drapion for assuming you shot me
<3

And can only imagine how frustrating playing Blackened was for ya, you did good. I never thought people were questioning the authenticity of your role, fwiw.

how did you read the PT's?

Links

1. Main Thread
   
2. Mod PT
   
3. Blackened PT (Opens in (expired on 2025-11-03 17:57:07))
   
4. Mastermind PT (Opens in (expired on 2025-11-03 17:57:07))
   
5. Dead PT
   
6. UpsideDownVelvetFireworks Hydra PT
   
7. CrepeGuy Notes PT
   
8. Dark Wizards Hydra PT
   
9. Bell Notes PT

I always look forward to reading Bell's Notes lol

more often than not a townie dropped interest or GOT VERY SALTY and left and you can safely grab it if u wanna town it up in a game

I quite dislike that this is often demotivating for scum. You craft your play around a certain playerlist and then suddenly a replacement swoops in with a fresh perspective and ruins it all.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Man my only option was to get rid of missing link, then maybe this game could have been different

[Roden]

I wonder if this set up would work better if everyone was anonymous so that people couldn't use meta to say they wouldn't pick scum

[Upwards]

Does it even matter? It’s either "I wouldn't pick Scum" or "I might pick Scum but I didn’t cuz xyz" and in the end it’s pretty whatever

[Hu Tao]

That would be a cool idea for v2

[Gimli]

I wonder if this set up would work better if everyone was anonymous so that people couldn't use meta to say they wouldn't pick scum

anonymous could be cool, however I think we'd end up running into similar problems if its gonna be anonymous *just* because of that, as we'd enter into unavoidable *well if this is who I think it is, they're less/more likely to go blackened*

I think a way to work around this is to make a similar mechanic to wolfpick, with one of the blackened being able to recruit instead of all three of them picking. that, or some other randomized mechanic e.g. make one of the players the ultimate despair to begin with! they dont do the first kills, but are in wolfchat waiting for the killers to join her.

I think the monokuma alternate wincon is very interesting but also does run into problems, especially in a game like this with many hydras and then we end up with 6 people sharing an account which can't be too ideal.

I think as always with experimental setups we gotta play them first to figure out what to change, what to remove, what to improve etc. I think the biggest challenge in this would be making the game interesting to everyone, including the people who signed up just to get instantly killed at gamestart. so like in this game, while auro and c-worl definitely had a good time with it, other players weren't very enthused with the monokuma 3rd party wincon...

having said all that I'm down to play any danganronpa setup and personally had a great time with the game. I want to be kyoko next time tho <<

[Roden]

A recruit mechanic would be interesting, gathering accomplices is in line with the games

[Roden]

Also I agree about Monokuma, it's a cool concept but I might not have engaged with it if I died right out of the gate. Idk how to get around the idea of losing investment from dying early, because the alternate wincon needs to be kept secret for it to work but might feel bad to be forced into it unknowlingly.

[villainous]

It extra sucked to have 6 people on one account because it was hard to coordinate a strategy and we all had to hush a little or overly dominate the thread.

[villainous]

The win con for Monokuma was interesting, but with 2 scum alive and so many people on the account it definitely sucked.

[Aureal]

I wonder if this set up would work better if everyone was anonymous so that people couldn't use meta to say they wouldn't pick scum

That was a good part of my rationale for using a secret alt and taking some measures to not be really obvious about my identity (until Gimli showed up anyway). I was actually kind of surprised that I was the only one.

Typically a secret alt game has rules against speculating about who the other players are, I think people can curtail attempts to use meta adequately in that case.

[Auro]

Secret alt game where guessing someone’s actual main benefits scum

[ProfessorDrapion]

I wonder if this set up would work better if everyone was anonymous so that people couldn't use meta to say they wouldn't pick scum

anonymous could be cool, however I think we'd end up running into similar problems if its gonna be anonymous *just* because of that, as we'd enter into unavoidable *well if this is who I think it is, they're less/more likely to go blackened*

I think a way to work around this is to make a similar mechanic to wolfpick, with one of the blackened being able to recruit instead of all three of them picking. that, or some other randomized mechanic e.g. make one of the players the ultimate despair to begin with! they dont do the first kills, but are in wolfchat waiting for the killers to join her.

I think the monokuma alternate wincon is very interesting but also does run into problems, especially in a game like this with many hydras and then we end up with 6 people sharing an account which can't be too ideal.

I think as always with experimental setups we gotta play them first to figure out what to change, what to remove, what to improve etc. I think the biggest challenge in this would be making the game interesting to everyone, including the people who signed up just to get instantly killed at gamestart. so like in this game, while auro and c-worl definitely had a good time with it, other players weren't very enthused with the monokuma 3rd party wincon...

having said all that I'm down to play any danganronpa setup and personally had a great time with the game. I want to be kyoko next time tho <<

Actually that’s smart for the future of this game.
If they shoot a teammate they should be allowed to recruit anyone they want onto mafia.

[C-Worl]

Secret alt game where guessing someone’s actual main benefits scum

That’s kinda what Flavortown is

[Immortal Technique]

Secret alt game where guessing someone’s actual main benefits scum

That’s kinda what Flavortown is

This idea, that I never did, was stolen from me

[Black]

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