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[Enchant]

Official Vote Count 2.08

Sleeping btw

Arrest

With

9

votes in play, it takes

5

to arrest someone.

Current Votes

KawaiiKame (3/5)

-> villainous (3531), Professor Raticate (4191), Upion (4195)

Immortal Snake (2/5)

-> goose dog (3591), KawaiiKame (3775)

Professor Raticate (1/5)

-> Hu Tao (3518)

Upion (1/5)

-> Immortal Snake (3633)

Dark Sea (1/5)

-> The Simpsons (3946)

Not Voting (1)

-> Dark Sea

Deadline:

(expired on 2025-11-20 06:25:24).

Grace Period: No one can be hammered for (expired on 2025-11-14 06:25:24)

Mod Note: Grace Pediod over

[KawaiiKame]

Think the bigger and more obvious thing is that if we're Kira we WANT hobs check to go through because that all of a sudden implicates a lot more people than the fairly locked down solve already present

-Python

i am in confusion
check out reveals how many ppl are left in kira's team
if python is kira then they do not want check out to reveal azure is not kira by showing kira and their 2 followers are alive

We are in PT with Simpsons

We know killing hob denies that information

If we're Kira we want that information to go through because the traditional thinking is that Kira doesn't want that information out

It's simple math. We get more towncred from letting hob live than we lose from playerlist reassessing

-Python

how does kira python get towncred from letting gimli live if no one in town knows you are kira? kira python can always kill gimli then say "we would not kill gimli as kira since that is the expected play"

[KawaiiKame]

Think the bigger and more obvious thing is that if we're Kira we WANT hobs check to go through because that all of a sudden implicates a lot more people than the fairly locked down solve already present

-Python

i am in confusion
check out reveals how many ppl are left in kira's team
if python is kira then they do not want check out to reveal azure is not kira by showing kira and their 2 followers are alive

We are in PT with Simpsons

We know killing hob denies that information

If we're Kira we want that information to go through because the traditional thinking is that Kira doesn't want that information out

It's simple math. We get more towncred from letting hob live than we lose from playerlist reassessing

-Python

how does kira python get towncred from letting gimli live if no one in town knows you are kira? kira python can always kill gimli then say, "we would not kill gimli as kira since that is the expected play"

[Enchant]

Fatal Mistake

Mihael Keehl: ... ARGH.

Only betraying "Click-click" heard from trusty gun. As expected from Detective, it was sabotaged beforehand? But how? Either way it's too late.

The Simpsons

failed shot and was Arrested!

Day will be Reset.

[Enchant]

Official Vote Count 2.09

Arrest

With

8

votes in play, it takes

5

to arrest someone.

Not Voting (8)

-> Dark Sea, Hu Tao, Upion, goose dog, villainous, KawaiiKame, Professor Raticate, Immortal Snake

Deadline:

(expired on 2025-11-21 11:04:23).

Grace Period: No one can be hammered for (expired on 2025-11-15 11:04:23)

Mod Note: I heard you like Grace Periods.

[Upwards]

yea…

checks out that wasn’t town lmao

~

[Immortal Snake]

Bro fumbled under zero pressure

-Python

[KawaiiKame]

hu tao mello would not miss

[Dark Sea]

Omg Black was right. Get dunked on

[KawaiiKame]

Omg Black was right. Get dunked on

she knows

[Upwards]

So they shot Vill or what

[Professor Raticate]

I'm just gonna go over all the mech shit real quick so that hopefully everyone's on the same page.

Everyone in the game has a Real Name and a Visible Name. The Visible Name is shown in the playerlist, and the Real Name is shown in your Role PM.

For Taskforce Members, Assistant, and Kira, the Visible Name and Real Name are the same. These people are vulnerable to Write kills from Kira.

For Detective, Kira Followers, and Mello, the Visible Name and Real Name are NOT the same. Kira must discover the Real Name somehow before the Death Note can be effective on them.

Azure Raijin's Visible Name, seen in the playerlist, and referenced in my opening RVS vote, is Light Yagami. Azure Raijin claimed Clingy in-thread.

Clingy is a Day Ability, even though its effects happen at Night, so the action still goes through, despite Azure's arrest.

We learn that Light Yagami is the Real Name of the person who visited us with Clingy. Since Light Yagami is ALSO Azure's Visible Name, we know that Azure MUST be one of Taskforce Member/Assistant/Kira. This is where Hobgomli's Check Out could have given us close to a true flip, combining alignment information with Name information.

Our ability, Access to Files, is a Night Ability. It tells us whether a target's Visible Name and Real Name match, but not what the Real Name actually is.

We got a result that villainous's Real Name and Visible Name do NOT match. This means villainous MUST be Detective/Kira Follower/Mello.

Final Results:

Azure Raijin MUST be one of Kira/Assistant/Taskforce Member, and CANNOT be anything else.

villainous MUST be one of Kira Follower/Mello/Detective, and CANNOT be anything else.

Hobgomli dying from Death Note STRONGLY SUGGESTS they were one of Assistant/Taskforce Member. This can only possibly not be the case if Kira got a lucky guess, or Azure was Kira and Follower hit 'em with the Shinigami Eyes Wombo Combo.

- Rat

P-Edit: Simpsons flipping Mello means villainous is actually Follower/Detective only. I am inclined to believe they would have shot villainous, based on William's rant about outing Detective, which confirms Follower in my eyes. But mechanically, we don't strictly know that.

[Professor Raticate]

VOTE: KawaiiKame

- Rat

[Dark Sea]

Holy shit wtf

C-WORL did we really just do that

[Dark Sea]

We made bro shake in his boots so hard he pulled the trigger

[Dark Sea]

Yeah, we did.

[Upion]

Alright alright William I shall quote from the PT:

"Upwards, you’re clearly the best player to ever grace this site with your presence and it isn’t even particulary close. I'm so honoured to be part of this hydra thank you so much for carrying."

-Tangion, probably

~

wow a direct quote from the pt!

I should report this

(for legal purposes the above is a joke)

that is so uncool of you to share the (unreal thoughts that your imagination conjured) thoughts that were supposed to be just between me and you, I feel so betrayed!

it is so embarrassing to for the whole thread to now know how highly I think of your mafia skills, and now everyone knows, without doubt that I only hydraed with you so you would carry our slot!

o woe is me

(more fake dramatic flourish)

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[Immortal Snake]

So this means that Vil is exactly follower and that the lack of cc was just real det/assist letting Mello pop on him

-Python

[Immortal Snake]

VOTE: KawaiiKame

- Rat

Where Kawa signals from Vil

-Python

[Professor Raticate]

VOTE: KawaiiKame

- Rat

Where Kawa signals from Vil

-Python

Just... Fucking check my ISO at this point, I'm tired of repeating myself.

- Rat

[Upwards]

If Vill is indeed Follower the most obvious Kira remains u…

~

[Immortal Snake]

Dark Sea we need to borrow your skill for second

-Python

[Professor Raticate]

me being shaded for thinking what kira does

in a game about finding kira is insane

I mean, mine was a joke, I think you're Kira for plenty of other reasons.

Can't speak for William though...

- Rat

name them
does the alt ego feel i am kira

Ngl, I have no idea what Drapion thinks. Overnight he seemed convinced it was Dark Sea, but I think the villainous result changed his mind, but then he voted villainous instead of you, the Kira implied by the villainous result, so uh. Shrugging noises.

As far as my reasons...

Python citing your past habit of flaking as scum to hard scumread you within mere hours of the game starting, only to then 180 pivot into a hard townread when you posted literally anything at all struck me as potentially Follower coded. Distance with an early tunnel, but with an extremely low bar to clear and defend you instead before there could be any unintended consequences. To their credit, the positioning and progression around you looks much better later on and up to now where they seem willing to kill you anyway, but the early hijinks should not be forgotten entirely.

Overall, you've played a very passive game, no real drive to solve, but very woe is me about receiving pressure. Everyone attacking you is Kira, everyone that isn't is Town, etc. You're clearly interested in self-preservation above all else.

Speaking of, you've been relatively easy to wagon, but very difficult to actually kill. Every time you get close there's something shinier to distract people, and that doesn't feel coincidental.

The most blatant example of that is from villainous and his theatrics around the neighborhood. You were basically settled as the elimination until then, but villainous drew a lot of attention onto himself, and was specifically baiting Gimli, a driving force behind the elimination. Either you got limmed anyway, but could see him being Follower and pass the note, or he got limmed from openwolfing too hard, buying you another day, or Gimli gets baited hard enough to flip momentum onto his slot, and a near-loss turns into a hugely successful day. And then our result that he has a fake name just further solidifies that this was follower behavior.

No one else has this level of overlapping sus points, backed by both the hard and the soft evidence available. So it's gotta be you. Is how it is. Nothin' personnel kid.

- Rat

Here, I found it for you.

- Rat

[Upion]

Town Core:
The Simpsons (Auro/WilliamDeVere/yessiree hydra)
Hobgomli (Gimli/Trekkie99 hydra)
Immortal Snake (Immortal Technique/UsesPython hydra)

Town Read:
Hu Tao
Upion (Tangion/Upwards hydra)

Town Lean:
Dark Sea (Black/C-Worl hydra)

True Null:
KawaiiKame
Raticate (Radical Rat/ProfessorDrapion hydra)

Scum Reads:
goose dog (Sirius/Aureal hydra)
Azure Raijin (mqnic/Finite hydra)

-Vill

[Immortal Snake]

me being shaded for thinking what kira does

in a game about finding kira is insane

I mean, mine was a joke, I think you're Kira for plenty of other reasons.

Can't speak for William though...

- Rat

name them
does the alt ego feel i am kira

Ngl, I have no idea what Drapion thinks. Overnight he seemed convinced it was Dark Sea, but I think the villainous result changed his mind, but then he voted villainous instead of you, the Kira implied by the villainous result, so uh. Shrugging noises.

As far as my reasons...

Python citing your past habit of flaking as scum to hard scumread you within mere hours of the game starting, only to then 180 pivot into a hard townread when you posted literally anything at all struck me as potentially Follower coded. Distance with an early tunnel, but with an extremely low bar to clear and defend you instead before there could be any unintended consequences. To their credit, the positioning and progression around you looks much better later on and up to now where they seem willing to kill you anyway, but the early hijinks should not be forgotten entirely.

Overall, you've played a very passive game, no real drive to solve, but very woe is me about receiving pressure. Everyone attacking you is Kira, everyone that isn't is Town, etc. You're clearly interested in self-preservation above all else.

Speaking of, you've been relatively easy to wagon, but very difficult to actually kill. Every time you get close there's something shinier to distract people, and that doesn't feel coincidental.

The most blatant example of that is from villainous and his theatrics around the neighborhood. You were basically settled as the elimination until then, but villainous drew a lot of attention onto himself, and was specifically baiting Gimli, a driving force behind the elimination. Either you got limmed anyway, but could see him being Follower and pass the note, or he got limmed from openwolfing too hard, buying you another day, or Gimli gets baited hard enough to flip momentum onto his slot, and a near-loss turns into a hugely successful day. And then our result that he has a fake name just further solidifies that this was follower behavior.

No one else has this level of overlapping sus points, backed by both the hard and the soft evidence available. So it's gotta be you. Is how it is. Nothin' personnel kid.

- Rat

We can kinda see it, esp with people going "If Vil doesn't hood hob we flip Vil"

What are your thoughts on it just being general "Hey I'm a follower, waste time on me and my antics" strat

-Python