DEATH STRANDING - Day Two

[Naerys]

btw ask yourselves why such lurking slot gets such resistence from being yeeted

[Naerys]

tbh for what it's worth here’s the votes anyone ever made on unowen
1400: naerys -> Target "unowen"
1924: darkwizards -> Target “unowen"
2309: williamdevere -> Target "unowen"
2310: upwards -> Target “unowen"
2766: professordrapion -> Target “unowen"
3004: upwards -> Target "unowen"
3009: professordrapion -> Target "unowen"
3069: darkwizards -> Target "unowen"
3120: finite -> Target “unowen"
3202: enchant -> Target "unowen"
3208: upwards -> Target "unowen"

3212: beansandtoast -> Target "darkwizards"

3219: naerys -> Target "unowen"

3229: manamitsuno -> Target "darkwizards"

3253: williamdevere -> Target "unowen"
3291: c-worl -> Target “unowen"
3506: darkwizards -> Target "unowen"
3534: williamdevere -> Target "unowen"
3543: upwards -> Target "unowen"

3629: manamitsuno -> Target "darkwizards"

manami and toast do seem to consistently be voting darkwizards or suripoko or upwards whenever the unowen vote gets brought up.

thanks william, you are golden

[WilliamDeVere]

I believe Finite is asking Manami specifically if there’s any interactions between DW and other slots (including voting etc) that she’s looked at that made her for example go ‘if DW is scum so and so are scum with them’ or ‘if DW is Town so and so are pushing their lim in bad faith etc’, whereas Manami seems to be replying that she has NOT looked into any interactions and is just SAYING DW has interactions whereas UNOwen doesn’t, so their flip MIGHT be more informative?

like yeah, that’s technically true but that’s like the difference between 1 and 0

might != will be

it could be a complete dead end

@Manami I think Finite wants to know if you have actually SEEN or WITNESSED any interactions from DW, not just BELIEVE they may have revealing interactions

[Manami Tsuno]

Naerys to me it feels like when we ask you to explain, you huff cross your arms and say "no!"
and the fact we don't just nod and agree with your read means we "are dismissing the wagon"
when I don't think me or beans are dismissing it we're just asking for why people are so confident
on it. For me personally, the level of confidence is odd.

Yes he switches votes on the top wagons but why is this an only scum behavior that town owen cannot make?

[Beans and Toast]

btw ask yourselves why such lurking slot gets such resistence from being yeeted

Do you think DW is a lurker slot?

-toast

[Naerys]

btw ask yourselves why such lurking slot gets such resistence from being yeeted

Do you think DW is a lurker slot?

-toast

i was talking about UNO

[Finite]

I believe Finite is asking Manami specifically if there’s any interactions between DW and other slots (including voting etc) that she’s looked at that made her for example go ‘if DW is scum so and so are scum with them’ or ‘if DW is Town so and so are pushing their lim in bad faith etc’, whereas Manami seems to be replying that she has NOT looked into any interactions and is just SAYING DW has interactions whereas UNOwen doesn’t, so their flip MIGHT be more informative?

like yeah, that’s technically true but that’s like the difference between 1 and 0

might != will be

it could be a complete dead end

@Manami I think Finite wants to know if you have actually SEEN or WITNESSED any interactions from DW, not just BELIEVE they may have revealing interactions

ty, close enough

[Beans and Toast]

btw ask yourselves why such lurking slot gets such resistence from being yeeted

Do you think DW is a lurker slot?

-toast

i was talking about UNO

I'm aware. What is your opinion on DW in terms of lurking/no content?

-toast

[Manami Tsuno]

What are you going to do if Owen flips town? Go back to voting DW/Upwards again?
I don't want another 150 page day 2 of the same points all over again. or I'll turn
into a lurker slot haha.

[WilliamDeVere]

What are you going to do if Owen flips town? Go back to voting DW/Upwards again?
I don't want another 150 page day 2 of the same points all over again. or I'll turn
into a lurker slot haha.

fwiw I’ll try to be less pushy and try to work with people better D2. I realise this play style isn’t particularly fun and it’s also not particularly helpful
so, it should be less chaotic (at least on my end)

[Finite]

What are you going to do if Owen flips town? Go back to voting DW/Upwards again?
I don't want another 150 page day 2 of the same points all over again. or I'll turn
into a lurker slot haha.

Okay this is my last shot at this line of questioning:

What are you going to do if DW flips town?

[Manami Tsuno]

@Manami I think Finite wants to know if you have actually SEEN or WITNESSED any interactions from DW, not just BELIEVE they may have revealing interactions

. . .Not really? I was mostly basing it off my own interactions with DW. I felt like considering how much we talked about DW how many votes have been around DW it tells us more then if Owen flips.

I believe it to be the case because I feel like it's impossible for it not to be? I suppose if Owen flips wolf I could see two people I would say are likely town then I'd have to comb through the VC's.

[Finite]

Okay I'll drop that line of questioning, I think there's a bridge in communication here. I'm not sure if its genuine or not but I don't want to be repeating the same point 10x and crowd the thread.

[SirCakez]

Prodding ForeverBuckAndMe

[Manami Tsuno]

I'm sorry for not understanding what you're asking. I wouldn't do that regardless of what my role pm says though.

[Finite]

I'm sorry for not understanding what you're asking. I wouldn't do that regardless of what my role pm says though.

No worries, I'm not 100% sure if my point is reasonable fwiw

[Beans and Toast]

btw ask yourselves why such lurking slot gets such resistence from being yeeted

Do you think DW is a lurker slot?

-toast

i was talking about UNO

I'm aware. What is your opinion on DW in terms of lurking/no content?

-toast

Naerys where did you go?

Please come explain to me how DW isn't a lurker slot

-toast

[Finite]

naerys is town

true there is a noticeable difference in her behavior but that’s just frustration at perceived unreasonability

she was frustrated in purbture as town and got voted out for it

same is going on here

mqnic how many games have you played with Naerys? Have you played with her as scum?

[Naerys]

btw ask yourselves why such lurking slot gets such resistence from being yeeted

Do you think DW is a lurker slot?

-toast

i was talking about UNO

I'm aware. What is your opinion on DW in terms of lurking/no content?

-toast

they seemed to have a lot of presence here
and from their posts i feel like atm they are trying to solve, they post their opinions and reads
so idk why people SR them so heavily, yeah Auro trolled a lot at beginning but idk i just feel they are much scummier slots

[WilliamDeVere]

To be honest I don’t agree with Manami. In general D1 you go for an inactive slot, inactives are either useless Town or Scum that coasts by. Useless Town can be used by the scum team at MiLo, either by pocketing them or setting them up for an easy mislim so they can kill. Whereas, if DW has so much interaction with the thread they will provide more information and their flip will be more valuable later on.

Killing DW now, purely from the information perspective, is kinda like, if you make X amount of money, you immediately spend it instead, whereas killing them later would be like investing the money so you have more money later

we are not, I think at the point where we desperately need to cash in

so if that’s the sole argument, we should arguably let them live so we can milk them for (more) info later

there’s then the other argument that if DW is in fact town, we are killing Villainous who is a good Town player/useful to have around, which is bad

[Naerys]

What are you going to do if Owen flips town? Go back to voting DW/Upwards again?
I don't want another 150 page day 2 of the same points all over again. or I'll turn
into a lurker slot haha.

What are you going to do if DW flips town? Go back to voting UNO/Upwards again?
I don't want another 150 page day 2 of the same points all over again. or I'll turn
into a lurker slot haha.

[UNOwen]

Whole lot of dendrophobia here today

[Beans and Toast]

"having presence" is NOT how I would describe Dark Wizards

They are literally lurking and showing up to prod dodge. I don't think Sirius has had a single game thought and Auro/vill haven't done much better

I'm very confused why you're giving DW a pass and not Owen

-toast

[Beans and Toast]

What are you going to do if Owen flips town? Go back to voting DW/Upwards again?
I don't want another 150 page day 2 of the same points all over again. or I'll turn
into a lurker slot haha.

What are you going to do if DW flips town? Go back to voting UNO/Upwards again?
I don't want another 150 page day 2 of the same points all over again. or I'll turn
into a lurker slot haha.

[Finite]

DW definitely isn't lurking