-XylBot- Game over! Winners page 56.

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vote Yaya

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Well I checked the instructions and there's no exclamation mark for voting.

But hey. If you say so.

!vote Yaya

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Terrorist Mastermind (cult; super-rare): You can recruit townie players into your terror cell, which can communicate at night. Your terrorists can suicide-bomb other players during the day. If you die, all cultists will die. Actions: recruit

Aw crap, that was my dream role.

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tajo is town.

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Sigh... Pop, why? DGB, why? Life, why? (This is a joke post, btw)

Well he made a post "LMAO" which denotes the kind of casual comfort a TOWN player has entering into a game, and not facing the prospect of lying to people for months on end.

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!vote zwetschenwasser

Suffice it to say that you are not currently playing to town meta - you're not being silly and carefree enough. (Can't give a good link, the best example is an ongoing Mini.)

Bullocks. Or bus'ing. Time will tell.

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2) I was trying to be subtle. Since that doesn't seem to be working, let's use the blunt instrument: I have REASON TO BELIEVE that Kevy just let slip that the Mafia kill was not aimed at Seraphim. I am reluctant to explain further at this time.

Am I clear?

i have REASON TO BELIEVE that you are totally full of shit

The rabbit has a reason to believe.

!vote Tarhalindur

Also, armlx is town.

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this is the part where tar's previous threat of a neverending omgus vote actually materializes, proving that tar's supposed evidence against kevy is total crap, because if he had REASON TO BELIEVE that kevy let slip he's mafia then he would not stop voting his caught scum. the fact that he's willing to switch his vote to me in spite of this shows that his blustering is all just smoke and mirrors.

Is Kevy scum?

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This game has more buses than Grand Central Station the day before Thanksgiving. My head is spinning.

Xtomx, I trust your judgment. Can you explain post 88 in more depth?

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Tar.

~so far~ who is scum, who is town, and why. Thanks ahead.

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BTW - I reckon where only on page 5 so I'm not expecting airtight cases or opinions you'll keep the whole game. I just want to understand what your thinking is at this moment.

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zwet, there's no unvoting.

Anyways. I can see it. Scum hates claiming.

GO GO GO - DIE SCUM DIE

!vote UnofficialRulerOfEveryone

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...I think it may be scum-DGB hopping on a convenient wagon.

Hahaha, how big is that 'wagon' that's making you hit the roof? Zwet and me? Yeah, big scary wagon, haha.

Furthermore, stalling a mass claim is not a scum tell at all, if you are smart town not wanting to reveal roles, you would stall a mass claim, so don't just hop on me because of that.

I don't believe in a mass claim on Day 1, I'm against it. But I will go along with it and not stall. Because I'm a townie, and I don't have to nervously fret about having to fakeclaim, unlike you.

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The wagon is small, but if two people are on it instead of one, it's much easier to snowball, the 2nd vote on a wagon is quite convenient for scum because they don't look like they are pushing it near as much.

So you're really really really worried about a

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No, I'm not worried, but I am voting you because of the jumping on, call it OMGUS, but it's a valid reason.

No. You're worried. A second vote isn't 'jumping on.' You have no valid reason, unless 'being worried' counts as a valid reason.

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Why me over him, rabbit?

you've already got a wagon

Now, that's rofl-town talking.

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Well, he's lying somewhere.

Maybe your plan would work, just not sure on the reliability of it.

I don't believe the mod is lying. This is no bastard mod game.

Vote stays.

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I'm a believer.

!vote tubby216

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I think zwet is doing a very poor job of being town, and I don't like URoE's question about him being drunk or stupid. That makes me think that they're scum buddies.

This is the kind of insight that I like.

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Woot!

!vote UnofficialRulerofEveryone

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ok so let me understand this,
mass claim = no good
uroe>tarhalindur in scumminess correct??
and as a side note irc mafia is hard as shit,, i suck bad at it much like i do here oddly enough

Is this a textbook example of a scum post? Short as it is, I believe it contains every scumtell I'm aware of.

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Finally done with my re-read. I see you guys have put UROE at lynch -2. I'm not understanding why everyone has left tubby alone though. Every post I read of his pinged the scumdar and just when I was thinking, wow, tubby scummy mcscummerson and then disappears, he shows up again and posts another bad post. I don't know how he managed to slip lurking *and* actively lurking past a group like this, but I don't like it.

!vote tubby

I support a whole bunch of people voting tubby.

But first, we have to take care of that UROE business.

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i support a whole bunch of people voting tubby too he deserves it and he is usless

He's funny though, that's why we're taking of UROE first.

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I'm waiting on UROE to claim. The longer it takes, the higher the probability that the claim is fake.

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No claim, vote stays.

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Alright, UROE wants another vote, who's going to give it to him?

Quick, every minute he's not at L-1 is a minute where he can sharpen his fakeclaim.

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btw claim you have good reason too now

I'm sure he's frantically studying the wiki roles right now.

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DGB didn't use an action tonight, but that doesn't clear him from being scum.

I have to congratulate you on a fine choice of target, but not so much for the gender bender.

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I believe it.

!vote tubby216

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tubby sounds desperate.

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I am a Watcher (Town)

Why include the town part? That goes unsaid.

I checked my own role PM, and since the 'town' in brackets is also there, maybe you should check yours.

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no tubby is bored and is a recent graduate of the "BM school of playing mafia on mafiascum.net" thank you very much.

WOW, the rot is spreading, haha, just kidding.

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We still need to lynch URoE.

And why are you so eager to lynch a potential power role?

As for my relationship with UROE, well, if we lynch him, it will be confirmed that I didn't do anything last night except twiddle my thumbs. Saving him, given that I don't know his alignment with certainty, goes against my personal selfish interest. Yet I'm the only one to know that he his result is factually correct. Therefore, I have to believe his claim.

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We still need to lynch URoE.

And why are you so eager to lynch a potential power role?

Why are YOU so eager to "save" a nigh-useless town power role?

Who cares if the role is useless? I believe him to be a townie. I'm not going to lynch him. Why do you?

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hang him, then hang dgb

I'm so disappointed. I believed in your psychic power to read my alignment, unique amongst all players on the site. Now, it's back to 'no one understands me.'

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I'm keeping this response for last because I vote it is rather scummy.

We need to make sure that we don't push people to L-1 and lay off when they claim.

If their claim is believably town, we lay off them. Do you think this game is to get people to claim, and then lynch them, regardless of credibility???

This is no different than a very slow mass claim, and it's bad for town.

It's no slow massclaim. How many have claimed so far? If you believe UROE's claim, like I do, then you don't want to lynch a townie, and at least there's a better shot at hitting scum with the next wagon.

Generally, the reason to ask someone to claim before you lynch them is so that you have their night results if they die town.

Ugh?

URoE basically asked for the L-1 vote so he could claim, as if he was anxious to do it.

No - that's crazy. If he was anxious he could have claimed at minus 2 and say that's it's because he's going out for the night or some such. And it's not like his claim was going to save him, is it?

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We're looking for a scumteam here, so URoE is the best lynch. He was one of the players that was completely against MC today, but seemed anxious to claim as he reached L-1.

Seemed anxious? He seemed so UN-anxious, I thought he was manufacturing a fakeclaim.

The ONLY reason DGB does not agree with this lynch, and is defending URoE at all, is because she is most likely URoE's scum buddy.

No, it's because his result on me is totally correct. And think of it. We pretty much all have power roles, right? Mine is not the kind that should have been exercized last night, so I did not send in a choice. What are the chance of him making up that I didn't choose a target? If he was making things up, he would have named a target, any target. But no target? Then again, if UROE was planning to make up a player and target combination, I was a very poor choice, because I would have totally blown a gasket, and destroyed him in so doing. He would have been wise to pick a meeker player.

As town, DGB should be fine with URoE's lynch, because it clears her of killing Seraphim.

No, I'm absolutely not fine with his lynch, because I'm not up for lynching a townie, and being cleared townie is useless to me, all it means is that I'll be nightkilled. There is no advantage to being cleared of killing Seraph.

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1. Stop softclaiming.

C'mon. We pretty much all have roles.

2. You're thinking of "tracker". Watcher only tells you whether or not that player USED an ability or not, not who they actually targetted. Thus, he did not need to know WHO you targetted, only if you even actioned at all. For some reason, you seem to think that because his result on you is correct, that he is town? Do I need to remind you that watcher can be a scum role?

The point is still valid. It's extremely unlikely that I have no ability, it's extremely unlikely that, having it, I didn't use it. And I didn't use it. UROE is not guessing. His claim is not fake. He's town.

Wanna lynch a townie? Help yourself. Are you willing to pay the price for refusing to listen to my very clear and credible argument?

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You missed the part where DGB has been blatantly defending URoE as IF THEY WERE SCUM TOGETHER.

I'm defending UROE as we are

town

together. Whatssamatta, Kevy, we're not lynching fast enough for you? In a rush to go to night?

URoE can still be scum with a correct watch claim.

Does anyone know how likely that is?

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A couple of things bother me here. First the fact that he felt it was needed to post Town in brackets.

It's in the PM!!!! In brackets!

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A couple of things bother me here. First the fact that he felt it was needed to post Town in brackets.

It's in the PM!!!! In brackets!

And your point is? If anything it is the easiest part of a fake claim to make up.

Sure, but it's not a valid point against him.

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Gah! Animo was the doctor?

I want to lynch one of: Kevy, armlx, tubby216, Vir4030, Tanarin

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Animo posted like lurkerscum. Tubby it is.

!vote Tubby

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As for you DGB, I am very, very surprised that URoE was not town. You have to admit, with comments like these:

I'm fairly sure that the likelihood of being town is like 65% percent or more for a watcher.

URoE was definitely playing like scum. However, like I said before, I don't think you and URoE are on different teams. If one was town, then so is the other, although some will disagree. More explanation later, but I see the fact that you still want to lynch me as townie behavior as well.

Phate: Why the hammer on URoE?

If YOU feel you should be excused for pushing UROE's lynch because of UROE's behavior, your questioning of Phate's hammer is disingenuous at best. Care to explain?

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And I was not surprised to see Uroe flip town, I don't get why everyone was so certain.

Um... Can anyone say distancing scum?
!vote Xtoxm

I think I just caught zwet not quite understanding the meaning of the word 'distancing,' haha.

By the by Xtoxm is correct.

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In another game the person that said "I told you he was town. You should have listened to me" was the last scum.

Maybe. But this is Xtomx. I've come to expect him to hold contrary opinions as town, and hold his ground amidst opposion.

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Tar is making the huge mistake of trying to condense DGB's playstyle into two sentences.

I updated my Wiki page, haha.

Methinks Tar is looking for an easy distraction from his scumbuddy's wagon, that is, tubby. His case is rubbish and an embarrassment to his usually clever play. He knows I am in many games, I can't be expected to have a nervous breakdown in each and everyone of them, simultaneously. Pretty much every game gets its turn, eventually. The bell hasn't tolled for this game yet.

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DGB, tar is town, unless he's a godfather. I muped him, remember?

Oh. Then maybe he's a godfather. If not - I want to see the real Tar. And soon.

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Sigh. Can we get a reason? Hmm??

He thinks you were serious when you said that you trapped me. Wishful thinking, tubby.

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Shadow Knight's "wall of text" was a solid, intelligent contribution.

I'm already voting for you, scum. I wish I could vote you multiple times. There's only so much your buddy Tar is going to do to defend you before he buses you so hard, your head is going to spin.

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DGB's playing may possibly be explained by one of Tarhalindur's posts:

In other words, I finally found DGB's supertell: berzerking (focusing on a particular player with the intensity of a trained attack dog). Berzerker-DGB is town, passive DGB is scum.

I see no sign in this game of DGB focusing with single-minded intensity on a player. Coming from her, that's a HUGE scumtell

And so, DGB has been trying to play like her town meta.

Pfffffffffffft!

If you think that's my level of focusing on players, you have no clue what you're talking about. By my standards I'm going pretty soft on tubby and Tar, haha. Tar should confirm this.

I realize that this contradicts my earlier statement where I said that DGB/URoE were of the same alignment, but the last couple of posts have made me change my mind.

Yet, the reasons you were hanging onto yesterday still exist. DO YOU REALIZE that you used this line of reasoning to lynch one player yesterday (UROE) and now, you disown this same reasoning to lynch the other player, that you said UROE's alignment would decide?

DGB has been ignoring claim information

I have? Where.

...and blindly trying to follow the town meta that Tarhalindur put out for her.

I mean, seriously, even Tar would argue against that.

Also, if roflcopter was town, he'd know I'm town, and he'd say as much. His misguided evaluation of my alignment saddens and surprises me, if he's town, but if he's scum, he's just doing his job and I forgive him.

You're completely and hopelessly wrong, but I'm thinking you're wrong as a townie, rather than a scumbag.

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I am not lying. I am a mup, and I know that I could have done nothing as a possibility.

You know the scum will do everything they can to discredit you. I'm taking notes.

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I'm calling it now - there's a missing kill N1 and N2, there are two scum factions (either Mafia + SK or 2x Mafias), DGB is from one faction and tubby is from the other.

Either order works for me. We'll worry about larger threats when we're closer to endgame.

What do you mean "missing kill"? Like, it was blocked or protected or something? I find that hard to fathom. While there are a lot of power roles in this kind of setup, there are lots of them that can't actually prevent a kill. I think the odds on a kill being prevented with this many players on both nights is pretty slim.

What are these "larger threats"? That seems a very odd phrase. If indeed DGB and tubby are scum, what could be a larger threat than mafia?

Is it possible...

...that the kill that went through last night...

...was from a vig...

...leaving the scum with a suspicion that there is another scumgroup???

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I'm not saying Tar in particular. Just something to look for. Also, it's NOT impossible that Tar is a godfather, these things do happen.

And speaking of paying attention, it has just been brought up to yours, that you forgot that a cult leader died night 0.

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For instance. The possibility of another scum faction has been brought up by tubby. Have you considered reading the game and paying attention?

@ Tubby: WHA?! What evidence do you have that there are two scum factions? Last I saw we only had 1 kill both nights.

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Why doesn't tubby have, like, 327498279832 votes already?

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If you haven't voted tubby because he's scummy, can you vote him to raise the level of the game?

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oh well E for effort

Nice defense.

@ Shadow Knight - I don't believe tubby is anywhere near being lynched.

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||| MAFIABOT || tubby216 - 5 (DrippingGoofball Shadow_Knight Tanarin hasdgfas Empking's_Alt) |||

Only five? Aw, man, I'm so depressed. Really, it shouldn't be so hard.

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nite0 i inspected armix result= noresult ( on this i asked the mod what that means he said " no result means no result") so i am assuming that he doesn't have a gun

I believe the claim.

However, no results means no result, it doesn't mean that armlx doesn't have a gun

!vote Kevy

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@DGB: This is the second wagon you have pushed that you immediately jumped off of. And you have done it on what are really somewhat weak roles.

I believe him. I'm not going to lynch a player whom I believe to be town. The details of his results rang true. He's not today's lynch.

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at this point since i claimed and if i lived through the nite should i reveal my investigations upon the start of the next day?

I would suggest that you don't, because it would stymie player interactions and we'll lose information. Look at the situations, and use your judgment.

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dgb voting for kevy is further proof that i'm right about dgb being scum

kevy is town

I'm sure everyone would like to know how the word 'proof' sneaked itself into your pronouncement.

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i'm sure i'd like to know why you continue ignoring me when i tell you that kevy is town

Are you invoking our sacred trust?

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Well if the case for Kevy being town doesn't rest on the sacred trust, I'm afraid I can't consider it.

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hey DGB, like yesterday, gunsmith can be a mafia role. PR claiming in this setup doesn't mean town. Do you really believe tubby is town? I sure don't, and this claim doesn't fill me with confidence

But are his choices of players a choice that a townie or a mafiate would make/

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His confusion over the 'no result' seems genuine, though.

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Is there a case on xtomx?

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Sure. I'm in.

!vote Phate

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There's not exactly a whole lot of thinking going on in this game.

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Whoever brought up the point about DGB running wagons on people until they claimed (then jumping right off) seems to be right.

I am slightly interested in a DGB claim, namely because I think she is scum as well. Am I the only one?

And what's everyone else doing?

Running up players to claim, then lynch them no matter what the claim is?

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Yesterday, the scummiest players on the wagon were tubby and Kevy. I believe tubby's claim. However, some people are hinting at rolebased information that Kevy is town. Same goes for Phate, seems there's rolebased info out there that he's town.

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Armlx

Tar is off - nowhere near as active a scumhunter as usual. We should keep an eye on him.

Fixed

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And PRUFT? WTF is that?

This game's IQ has lost another 10 points.

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!vote Empking's Alt

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Why did Phate die?

He must have misread the part of his role that said "Survivor."

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What's the significance/utility of green goo? Players that target green goo become vanilla? Do they retain their alignment?

How many more votes to lynch Empking?

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Also note the help was posted in the modkill text for those who want to know what it does.

I wasn't sure I understood it correctly.

So it's like a cult?

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xtoxm -

why

don't you see dgb as scummy

Also, when did you stop beating your wife?

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let me rephrase: anyone who's not voting dgb should hurry up and vote dgb

And the case is that I twice unvoted players whose claim I believed? Sure. I can see why you want me dead.

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On whether the people pushing it are scum or not. Duh!

Can you tell apart whether these people are scum or not?

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EH?

Exactly. You have no clue, and you're not even pretending to try to get a clue. So why are you making comments useless like 'it depends?'

And then tubby goes "ahh ok" like you just shed light on the subjet.

*bangs head*

Someone refresh my memory please. Is there a reason why we're not wagoning the living daylights out of zwet?

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!vote Tanarin

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It's possible that you are being bus'ed, I'd like to help things along.

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Er, how? Kal started it, and i'm the only one to have shown any interest

You think Kal is beneath bus'ing?

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No. But I don't see why he would on D1 out of blue, in wacky, which pretty much anything can happen.

That's the first sign of bus'ing, Day 1 out of the blue.

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!vote DrippingGoofBall

You like to bus?

Ask players that have been buddies with me.

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[quote="KaleiÃ

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It's possible that you are being bus'ed, I'd like to help things along.

Then what is this supposed to mean?

It shouldn't be too complicated to figure out yourself, why don't you try?

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You claimed scum.

Are faking being dense, or are you genuine?

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!vote Vir4030

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*mind exploding*

No surprise here, it takes very little to cause a single neuron to blow up.

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I think tubby's a better lynch

How so? I find his claim credible. What are the reasons?

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...gunsmith is a very common mafia role.

Really?

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Normally I'd shut up, but this game is just going in circles. Teeny tiny insignificant little circles.

So let's put some spice into the mix.

Animopherv was not a scum kill. It was a town kill.

Someone successfully foiled the scum kill.

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Armlx, I am with you on the confused boat here. Though I find it interesting that DGB seems so sure the kill last night was a town kill. To me it says one of two things. A) I am scum BSing a vig kill on Animorph, or B) I am a vig and killed Animorph last night. I need to think about which one it could be.

It's interesting, how you think (A) is at all likely, and that "(C) I have awesome deductive powers" is not among the choices.

You're not thinking like a townie.

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Who is scummier, Tanarin or Tubby

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[quote="KaleiÃ

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tanarin is far too concerned with whether or not kscope has rolebased knowledge implicating him

OK then we kill Tanarin.

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I thought I was alrady voting for the scum. Sorry.

!vote Tanarin

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@ Tanarin

Time to play CLAIM OR DIE

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WOW. Kevy is so scum. Is there a reason why he's not dead yet?

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cause you guys are tryin to lynch tan today,

There's no other reason, right?

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kevy is not scum

He should try acting less scummy.

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I mean, Kevy is fishing pretty hard on Kscope and me, and he's sorta defending Tanarin.

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WOW. Kevy is so scum. Is there a reason why he's not dead yet?

I love the elaboration here.

Read post #800

DGB is the king kahuna in this crap posting, and thus needs to be lynched.

I'm usually longer-winded, but with a whole game full of crap posting, I ain't got exactly much to work with.

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I mean, Kevy is fishing pretty hard on Kscope and me, and he's sorta defending Tanarin.

xYou're the one majorly rolehinting.

I'm not hinting, I'm just talking in code to roflcopter. He's the only one that really understands me. We're on the same wavelenght. His posts are short but that's only because his mind works too fast for anyone to catch a glimpse of it but me.

Tanarin, at the start of his play (when he first joined the game) seemed town to me and I have no reason to believe that that changed.

This is partly by process of elimination, and some scummy things that he has said, and that no townie player is vouching for him.

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Instead of offering your own, helpful ideas, you are sending cryptic messages to the town trying to let EVERYONE ELSE create an argument FOR you so that you don't have to. This is the basis of scum play. Let me repeat.

Scum tries to let the town convince themselves that x and y are scum

. Please show me one instance where you have not done this.

I thought the biggest slam dunk case against me is that I participated in the run up of players to claiming, then when they claimed something believably townie, I backed off from lynching them. I'm getting flak for it, but I don't care, because I'm right. I've done exactly the opposite of what you claim scum does, which is to let the town convince itself that x and y are scum, I actively tried to convince the players that x and y are town No one believed me and suddenly I became a lynch target, but hey.

Now you can find at least two major and significant instances where I have done the opposite of your lame scumtell. And I'm not even saying that what I did is a town tell. I'm pointing it out to show that your observations are dead wrong.

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I think what I mean to say is that you've been acting like you're holding something back the entire game.

ORLY. What are the signs.

Also, it's not hard to be "right" about backing off claimed townies when you're the scum, no?

Hey, nice misrep, I did say very clearly that it's not a town tell. I said that it proves your 'case' is built on a completely false premise.

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DGB, I think you are assuming too much on an unrevealed fact (Tan's alignment). While its likely he is scum, its not certain.

What did I say that relies on Tan's alignment?

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dgb, i can't tell you why kevy doesn't like the tanarin wagon, but i can tell you beyond a doubt that he's town

Maybe you can persuade him to have the town's interest in mind.

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Fakevote: Empking's Alt

for the hammer.

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I'm town, I'm not hammering. Roflcopter doesn't want me to hammer.

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How do you know roflcopter is town?

I totally know, without a shadow of a doubt, that roflcopter is town.

I thought the biggest slam dunk case against me is that I participated in the run up of players to claiming, then when they claimed something believably townie, I backed off from lynching them. I'm getting flak for it, but I don't care, because I'm right.

Could you give me an example of a claim that wouldn't be believably townie?

UROE's claim was believable to me because he had results on me that were true, and for which chances were small that he would have guessed this result.

Tubby's results are also seem genuine.

UN-fakevote

- I have to think about this some more.

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For example. If Tan chose me, i'd be like, fuck you. It only works if whoever has to hammer will be lynched if he refuses. So it's basically town consensus again.

Worse still, whoever Tanarin is choosing will be cornered into claiming, if that player doesn't want to be the hammer. If Tanarin is fakeclaiming, that gives him too much room for anti-town shenanigans.

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Can Vir4030 hammer? He might as well make himself useful.

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Oh, let's just go with the Tan choosing option, at least that's quicker.

tubby wants to do it, he can do it.

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That's why Vir is the best bet. Vir has done nothing pro-town. Let him sacrifice himself for the will of the people if the claim is true.

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If he's a role cop with a result on Tanarin, then yes, he should hammer.

I do care about the game. Sure it's taken time for the player interactions to gel, but we're getting there.

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DGB, will you please answer the questions I asked you earlier?

Where, what?

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DGB:

You accuse me of leading the town, but how many wagons have you led the town on now?

I am also still not comfortable on the fact you "Deduced" that animorph was killed by a townie as opposed to scum. Your comment wreaks of either inside information or a sudo claim of the kill.

I also find it funny that when you and tubby ask kscope for reasons it isn't considered scummy, but as soon as I ask, I get wagoned. Mind telling me why this is the case?

It was in my claim post. I bolded the questions.

I accused you of leading the town? As for the other thing, I don't even know what you are referring to.

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DGB, could you give me an example of a claim that wouldn't be believably townie?

Supersaint comes to mind, why? As for UROE and tubby, the credibility comes from their stated RESULTS, not from the roleclaim itself.

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I tried to vig Narsis/vir Night 2 but I was killed...

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Congrats scumbags, and thanks to Xyl for modding this game! It was very unusual.

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Also, I'd like to point out that roflcopter failed to read me in this game.

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I'm keeping track.