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!xmafia help terrorist mastermind

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!vote kevy

Don't think you could have made a post that would make more more suspicious of you than that one...

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If someone claims to have role info on you at the start of day one, and it makes it more likely you are scum, you don't react by omgus and trying to get them lynched for it...I would expect Kevy as town to want Tar to explain why he thinks he's more likely scum, not immediatley dismiss whatever information Tar claims to have without knowing it. If after he explains it then it's BS, fair enough...But Tar really hasn't explained anything yet. And I don't see the advantage for Tar-scum doing this. At this point i'm thinking Tar has probably gotten himself into a situation where he has to claim...Or atleast explain what he's got, I think.

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Tar is flooding the thread with paranoid madness. Kevy is town.

!vote Tarharlindur

What, exactly, do you mean here?

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Everything he's been saying!

This is a useless comment, and you know it.

Calling wording of a question a scumtell

Please quote said question, and explain why it is flawed/scummy.

throwing around philosophical garbage

So?

pulling probabilities out of the air

You know very well this is role related.

and major vote hopping.

Firstly, Tar has not stuck out to me as having vote hopped. But if he has, why is this scummy? It's not like he's throwing his vote around desperate to get a lynch on just anyone, so I fail to see how you can call this a scumtell.

I am not liking your attitude, zwet.

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Ok, I think Tar did that on purpose...He's trying to draw attention to himself.

Any of the more experienced IRCers - Any idea what role might have an incentive to do that?

I can't remember if Jester's exist in Wacky...And I know it's generally considered scummy to bring it up...But still...

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Open a channel on irc with xylbot, then type:

!xmafia testsetup wacky 19

etc.

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I don't do it in channel, I open a seperate window with xylbot. But I can use the other way if I want more testsetups...

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Zwet:

Go to www.mtgsalvation.com

Click Chat in the bar across the top, and this should take you to the mtg chat channel.

Then type /join #mafia

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Mandatory post; don't have time for a real one.

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Guys, cop investigations are basically useless in this game. Take nothing from them.

Tar: Won't answer just yet, although i'd like to know why you've been playing like you have. It's like you want to be lynched.

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And I was not surprised to see Uroe flip town, I don't get why everyone was so certain.

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Zwet, like I said cop results mean

nothing

. It might mean something if you die and have sanity revealed.

I'm not sure what to think right now, some people seem to be acting weird...I'm absrobing, though.

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Just a heads up, if he is a mup, then he is most decidedly sane barring any sort of miller/anti-miller/GF.

Ah, I didn't know that. Although when I played I remember seeing a lot of anti-millers/GF's, so I still don't read much into it. Not that i'm actually thinking Tar is scum.

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Is that an abbreviation?

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I'm agreeing with Scope at this point.

!vote Tanarin

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hai guixe

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It tells you..

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We should be allowed to know his proper role

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That's not his role, Xyl changed it to that for the purposes of modkilling him.

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Survivor. And how does this help anything? You haven't responded to my accusations! LYNCHTHISSCUMNOW!

I see nothing to respond. Although if there was I probably wouldn't anyway...I don't see much point...

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Hehe, I knew he targetted me N0! He crumbed it in his first post...

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Yes I am.

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No, it just basically means anyone who targets me loses their abilities. And it turn, anyone who targets anyone who targets me also loses their abilities. And so on. While it can hurt scum, it got a better chance of hurting town, so it's basically a weak anti-town role.

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Also, i've hardly been hopping onto the easiest wagon. I don't see DGB as scummy. Lurker lynches would be cool. Or we can lynch actives til the game dies and scum cruise to victory. It's all good...

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Cos he's town

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Er, how? Kal started it, and i'm the only one to have shown any interest

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Er, how? Kal started it, and i'm the only one to have shown any interest

You think Kal is beneath bus'ing?

No. But I don't see why he would on D1 out of blue, in wacky, which pretty much anything can happen.

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!vote armlx

He admits to SSKing, says its a bad thing, but carries on anyway.

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I don't think arguing with him will be productive. I just ignored it.

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It can be town too though, and tubby would have been informed by his scum group the meaning of his result, rather then be oblivious, I think.

I could go with Emp, too.

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Then how would he have currently gotten "no result"?

Hasd is scummy.

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*Correctly

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Nah he's prob just scum.

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!vote hasd

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!vote hasd

Stop voting zwet, just cos he's new doesn't mean it's ok to mislynch a PR.

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!vote Tanarin, sorry.

Hasd is still scum though.

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!vote hasd

Stop voting zwet, just cos he's new doesn't mean it's ok to mislynch a PR.

what? strawman much?
I'm not voting him because he's new(in fact, he's been here around 3 months and is in about 30 games, so that's not even a correct argument at this point). I'm voting him BECAUSE HE IS SCUMMY. We also don't know if his claim is true. The fact that he was so quick to claim it makes me very wary.

Yeh, I know you guys like to pounce on things like that. I claim early most of the time when i'm town, so i've good experience.

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NO

HASD SHOULD HAMMER. NO ONE ELSE. ZWET, DO NOT HAMMER

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So... Xtotm is pretending to be defending me so as to appear more town and attack me later for attacking him. He's so scum and we need him to die tomorrow.

Uhhh, yeh, my role is kinda already confirmed

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Tan choosing doesn't work.

For example. If Tan chose me, i'd be like, fuck you. It only works if whoever has to hammer will be lynched if he refuses. So it's basically town consensus again.

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That works fine if Tan is scum, but I don't like the potentially losing an investigative, and with 2 pro-town players.

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I do not support you or zwet hammering/dying. If zwet really wants to be an idiot, he can go ahead and target me, and lose his role.

I can probably go with any of those 3 named alternatives. Not looked in any real detail at Emp yet, though.

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Oh, let's just go with the Tan choosing option, atleast that's quicker.

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But tubby is town...Mehhh....

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If that's your view why did you just say let tubby do it?

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Try reading the thread, scum.

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!xmafia votes

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!vote hasd

Still scum.

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Tubby is town.

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Stop stalling your claim.

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-_-

Why?!

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She was clearly town...And she'd practically claimed vig...

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I don't think so. And no, that doesn't make him scum. I'd find you scummy if I hadn't see you act like this as town in the past.

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more hasdgfas votes please

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:/

Don't see tubby as scum.

I'd rather Vir, or maybe Emp.

(Same for Zwet's kill...)

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Someone L-1 him so we can get the claim.

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It was that important you got it out?

Guess he's probably not scum seeing as that won't prevet the lynch...But whatever..

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I think so. At any rate I credit him with enough intelligence to claim a role that's in the rolepool.

Guess i'll think about it too.

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Yeh, scum never block pro-town investigate roles. That's crazy talk.

!vote vir

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Oh, I forgot about that...Yeh, anyone who dies as "Townie" might be scum.

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I'll go back to Cow if he gets votes again.

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I bored with these claims. Just hammer him.

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YES

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Nice try, i'm already confirmed.

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The post you quoted was pretty self explanatory.

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We keep getting a claim and backing off. If we don't let them claim, we avoid that.

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How long are you guys gonna keep saying "claim or die" before you fulfill the threat?

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He hasn't claimed.

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I hope you die tonight...

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Can a scum who targets a green goo become green goo?

Yes, anyone who targets me becomes Green Goo, regardless of alignment.

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You could hammer Vir...

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If Vir goes tits up im back with you rofl.

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I am helping town.

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No, i'm helping town.

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I'm also sus of Tar now.

Cow still looks bad, but the claim doesn't look like scum.

I think it's time to MC? Any other thoughts?

Waiting on Zwet and tubby's action claims...

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Oh, sus of SD too.

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Xyl, so I assume that if a mafia player targets a gree goo the would become town or alignment doesnt change?

No they stay mafia. The thing up there just means the original (me) can only be town and surv.

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Me, tubby, Zwet, Hasd. I believe that's it.

Tar/SD going first would be good, or just claims as you get in would also be cool.

(if we are MCing, that is) I think it's time to.

How many scum left you think? Just the 1?

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Oh, think I remember something about an inno result on Tar. That's why. By no means clears him, though.

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Views on MC, rofl?

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What did tubby, Zwet, Hasd claimed?
Sorry Im trying to catch up the fast I can.

Gunsmith, MUP, VT respectively.

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Me, tubby, Zwet, Hasd. I believe that's it.

Tar/SD going first would be good, or just claims as you get in would also be cool.

(if we are MCing, that is) I think it's time to.

How many scum left you think? Just the 1?

I have no idea. Min 2. Or there is something that indicates otherwise?
I think people should report results before MC.
I dont like it very much but Wuld explain a lot of things.

Testsetups seem to suggest we have either 1 scum of 3 or 2 scums of 3.

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Mmk.

!vote Shadow

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Actually, question for IRC veterans: Do IRC Mafiosos usually have daytalk?

Yes, it's important.

No.

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Pop looks pretty town to me...Tar you've been acting weird p much all game and i've not seen anything to convinve me you're town. Please claim.

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If Emp is scum be bussed Vir pretty hard.

Plus, Emp looks like he has extra info townie style.

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For those of you who forgot:

I mupped Tar N0, and I guess it protected him.

Question for players with more experience with IRC: Would MUP be told if the ability failed to resolve (due roleblock or something similar)? I assume no, but I want to double-check. This is a matter of the utmost importance.

The MUP would be told that they were blocked if they were blocked. However, if the MUP simply protected or did nothing (which don't give any sort of confirmation like kill and inspect do), there would be no message. Is that what you're asking?

The real question is, would a MUP be told his ability failed if he targeted an untargetable player N0?

No.

In that case, I'm going to go ahead and call Zwet mostly cleared. He got the right N0 result, too.

Yes, this is a softclaim that I am a role that was untargetable N0 and targetable N1.

1) Do I really need to spell the actual role name out to you?
2) If yes, start piling on some votes, because I'm not claiming until I'm at L-2.

Some kind of coward?

Coward can be maf if that's what you're thinking.

Vir also would know a lot bout the bot, so Tan dieing doesn't mean scum are in the dark.

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Oh, my bad, it looks like 2 scum left.

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Kale had something on Tan...

Yoiu mixed up Emp with Tubby

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Wait, I just looked back at Zwet and he didn't get a result on Tar N0.

Zwet, what are all your actions/results each night?

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I have no intention of lynching tubby. If you have info, claim.

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Kale seems town.

It seems shadow knight is a healthy lynch.

Mm.

Any idea's on the last scum?

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Ok. The fact this mafia group appear not to be killing is strange :/

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Err, try no. He's town.

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He doesn't look anything like scum, has twice made sucessful kills, and got the correct result of "no result" on N0.

You think he's a scum MUP?

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I know; that was sarcastic.

DGB vigged ani. There was a No-kill night. Zwet is town. Scum don't seem to have any kills. (I think DGB would have vigged N0)

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And, what kind of stupid kill would armlx have been for Zwet scum? He was one of the rapidly dimishing viable mislynches.

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!vote tubby

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We just lynched our best investigative role...

!vote Shadow

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I think it's still possible you are a random cop. Kevy..?

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I'm town all the way, trust.

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Lynching me is stupid. If i'm going to help scum anyway, it changes nothing. Lets scum kill another townie before you try to hunt them. If i'm going to help town, not lynching me gives town an extra mislynch. This is different than usual because i'm confirmed non-scum.

Survivor does not count as scum for endgame purposes.

I'm also town, you all just assumed I was Surv. I don't expect you to believe that, though.

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No I haven't, i've been scumhunting all game. I'm the original green goo.

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!xmafia modkill Phate

||| MAFIABOT || Phate has been killed by the moderator. |||
||| MAFIABOT || Phate was a Green Goo (town). |||

!xmafia baserole Phate survivor (survivor)

Green Goo (town, survivor; common; 4+ players): Whenever a player targets you with an action, they will become green goo themselves.

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The bit in the box "town, survivor" are the possible alignments for the original green goo.

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it shouldn't really matter whether you are green goo town or green goo survivor though, so long as you play like town for the last day or two we have here.

If you know me at all you know I play for and root for towns.

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k. well the safe assumption is that you are a survivor rather than town. the fact that your have been playing towards fast lynches ever since your reveal as green goo is evidence that you are most likely the survivor variety.

No, that's the effect of me being confirmed non-scum. I don't have to act town to try and keep suspicion off me.

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Emp's actions around Vir.

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i'm leaning hasdgfas, because i think if he were town he'd just be better.

This is a logical fallacy. I'd also like to point out that I've seen Xtoxm play much better than this as town, so I'd assume if he were town he'd be better.

Please link the game you're referring to.

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Do you want me to hold off?

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Kk.

!vote Hasd

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Zwet targetted him when he hid, then got an inno.

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Yes.

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I forgot about it...But so did he. That might be a scumtell.

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Rofl is town

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Zwet targetted him when he hid, then got an inno.

Did Zwet or Tar claim first? (I'm thinking of my role, here)

Zwet. Tar reacted with a psuedo-claim.

Whats your role do, Emp?

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Can you post your action list please

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Oh, nvm.

<XylBot>: Warp (town, survivor; super-rare; 4+ players): Each night, you will cause all actions targeting a random player to fail. You don't learn who that player is. Actions: (auto)shield

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Dam.

Emp's role might be the only thing that's prevent a kill on the night we had no kill.

Kale needs to target claim.

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There are 2 scum left. I've already explained why lynching me is retarded as i'm confirmed non-mafia. I'm also town.

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Testsetups show we have either 2 groups of 3 or 1 group of 4, with the dead cult.

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[wacky] cult: Cult Leader; mafia: Role Cop, Tracker, Doctor, Mafioso; survivor: Super-Saint; town: Mason (x2), Role Cop, Double Voter, Bus Driver, Inventor, MUP, Crazed Fiend, Disabler, Mad Monk, Reviver, Townie (x2)

All the testsetups i've seen have that format, if they have a cult, 4 mafia.

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I'm not sure. Tar and Kale feel dodgy. To me it looks like Emp has to be town as it's the only thing that can explain lack of kills.

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Pop, your targets?

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I have a bad feeling about this :/

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I'm not sure. Tar and Kale feel dodgy. To me it looks like Emp has to be town as it's the only thing that can explain lack of kills.

Cheerleader says otherwise, AFAICT - the Mafia could just have been extremely unlucky (i.e, Vir randomblocking the D2 Mafia kill).

Experienced IRC players: Can Godfathers also have the Coward ability? If not, I should be pretty much confirmed town - I've been crumbing Coward since D1, zwets's N0 result is consistent with me being a Coward, and zwet got an innocent investigation on me D2.

Poptajo almost has to be scum at this point. Other scum is either Empking or KScope, strongly leaning towards the former.

In other news, Xtoxm is town, not survivor.

HoS: Populartajo (will become a vote when we are ready for day to end, not before)

The night after we lynched Vir, Zwet killed Arm. Scum had no reason to. Where do you propose that kill went, if not from Emp hitting it?

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I don't know the bot well enough to say, but as far as I know, it's possible for scum to have 2 RB's. I don't see a reason why not.

Kale: I had forgotten about the Twin, butr doesnt the other half nullify when Tan dies?

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I'm pretty sure i've seen scum cops in Chaos. Not sure about Wacky. Isn't the main doubt around K that he could be simply making it up?

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I've just noticed Pop is L-1. Tar didn't hammer. I think that make Pop likely scum.

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There is no a single FUCKING reason in this thread why Empking should be considered more protown than me.
Its Scope and Empking.
!Vote : Empking.

Poor post. Liking the choice of wording - "considered".

!vote Pop

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Someone want to tell me what this lynch means while we wait for mod?

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Ok, if there is only one scum it HAS to be Kale, as scum cannot both kill and RB in the same night. Which means if there's only one scum, Kale has been lying about getting blocked.

If there is another day, lynch Kale.

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Lawl fail, idiots.

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Well Kale, though.

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Done*