Medieval Mafia - Game Over

Yosarian2 · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:55 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:Tadaa! I am not a miller or a dayvig. Behold my awesomeness. Discuss reactions. You're welcome.
(sigh) Ok. Here's my reaction.

Vote:Zwets
FAIL

You are not reading my posts.

I read your posts. I just don't care. He needs to die, and he needs to do it yesterday or so.

Caboose · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:56 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Thestatusquo wrote:Why should we not?

He claimed miller out of the blue, and then he retracted the claim when it became obvious he was drawing fire for it. He has lied in one way or another, and I am not able to see a pro town motivation for either of the lies.
I can tell from his tone thus far that it was nothing but provocation.

Doing stuff "for reactions" is just a load of bullcrap. It's just a way for scum to excuse their own early scummy behavior. Zwet taking back his claim once the "lynch all millers" discussion was going is sketchy, too.

DGB wrote:No. zwet claimed to be Sir Gawain's son. Sir Gawain had three sons. Sir Gawain was a good guy. His three sons died together as heroes.

Flavor meta sucks.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:57 am

Yosarian2 wrote:I read your posts.

Are you ignoring the hints on purpose?

hasdgfas · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:01 am

my vote is already on zwet and isn't moving.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:05 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:I read your posts.
Are you ignoring the hints on purpose?

...

You said you can read his tone, and that you think he's town; I'm not surprised by that, especally, nor do I have a problem with you saying that, since that's a normal part of your playstyle and one that's often effective, but it didn't convince me of anything.

If you were hinting at something else, though, then I totally missed it. If you are, like, 100% sure he's town for some kind of role-based reason, then I'll unvote him and I won't ask for any more details today.

Don't screw with me, though; I've let you get away with fake claims in other games because of your meta, but not here. This is NOT the time to fake role info, or you could REALLY screw the town over, ok?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:08 am

Yosarian2 wrote:If you were hinting at something else, though, then I totally missed it. If you are, like, 100% sure he's town for some kind of role-based reason, then I'll unvote him and I won't ask for any more details today.

I'm not saying I have rolebased info. But his character has two brothers. He's not Gawain; he's one of Gawain's three sons.

Caboose · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:10 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:If you were hinting at something else, though, then I totally missed it. If you are, like, 100% sure he's town for some kind of role-based reason, then I'll unvote him and I won't ask for any more details today.
I'm not saying I have rolebased info. But his character has two brothers. He's not Gawain; he's one of Gawain's three sons.

And that supposed to make him less likely to be scum because...

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:15 am

Caboose wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:If you were hinting at something else, though, then I totally missed it. If you are, like, 100% sure he's town for some kind of role-based reason, then I'll unvote him and I won't ask for any more details today.
I'm not saying I have rolebased info. But his character has two brothers. He's not Gawain; he's one of Gawain's three sons.
And that supposed to make him less likely to be scum because...

He may be a mason.

Caboose · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:16 am

^That still doesn't mean that he's not scum.

And flavor meta

still

sucks.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:21 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Caboose wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:If you were hinting at something else, though, then I totally missed it. If you are, like, 100% sure he's town for some kind of role-based reason, then I'll unvote him and I won't ask for any more details today.
I'm not saying I have rolebased info. But his character has two brothers. He's not Gawain; he's one of Gawain's three sons.
And that supposed to make him less likely to be scum because...
He may be a mason.

Meh. Ok, I see what you mean. (Actually, I thought after you told me you had dropped "hints" that you were about to claim Gawain or something, but never mind that.) It's kind of a weak flavor argument, but I'll relent far enough to say that I'm now willing to give him a chance to claim for realz before we kill him. If he does it fast.

By the way; could you point to which of his posts let you "tell that it was nothing but provication" from his tone? Beacuse I don't get that vibe from any of his early posts, at all, except perhaps the post where he unclaimed and that could very easily be faked.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:22 am

Yosarian2 wrote:By the way; could you point to which of his posts let you "tell that it was nothing but provication" from his tone? Beacuse I don't get that vibe from any of his early posts, at all, except perhaps the post where he unclaimed and that could very easily be faked.

Sorry, ongoing game business and all.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:27 am

Well, I don't really need to hear about any other games; I'm just curious which of his posts in this game gives you that vibe when you read them.

scotmany12 · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:09 pm

DBG, you are doing a whole lot of assuming and theorizing. We don't even know if there are two other players with the roles of gawain's sons, plus him possibly being a mason (i doubt this) does not make him town. Also, there is no reason to believe that Zwet has told the truth about his rolename, having lied about his role. Your posts do nothing to convince me that Zwet is town.

Yeah, zwet needs to die. If we let him live, we are giving him an out, and there is nothing stopping him from taking back what he said, and saying that he did it just for reactions, just like how he fakeclaimed for reactions.

Vote: zwetschenwasser

. Seriously, he needs to die.

sam.samhorn · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:14 pm

vote: zwet

, this is the only rational and appropriate move at this time. However:

Thestatusquo wrote:Camn, you believe the point of the d1 lynch is to kill scum? Hee Hee. So young and naive. The d1 lynch is very very very rarely useful in that it catches scum, and is far more important as a mode of gaining information.

I think this is a really stupid way to think.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:36 pm

Folks, slow down.

This wagon is just too easy. Yes, zwet has given a reason for all the scumbags in the game to hide behind LAL, scream that he must die, lynch what *I* believe to be a townie, with impunity. There will be no consequence for the scum tomorrow.

I urge all townies to take a deep breath, and start thinking. Otherwise, this day will yield zero information, and quite possibly, nothing but a dead townie, with the scum laughing their heads off at how easily the town can be manipulated by a formulaic and unyielding application of LAL.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:49 pm

I am thinking. I think he's scum.

He made a claim, he couldn't back it up, so he changed it.

You're right, it's easy. That's not a bad thing, not when the evidence is so clear.

Is there a chance he's just really dumb town? I guess; I've seen some people do really dumb things as town lately. It dosn't seem likely to me, though.

crywolf20084 · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:56 pm

WHOA WHOA WHOA

Zwet, what the hell???

I'm withholding my vote on him, but I DO find the claim change VERY scummy, and will most likely vote once i read into this a bit more. hrm...

Caboose · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:03 pm

I don't like how DGB is is setting herself up for the classic "I told you so" D2 if zwet flips town.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:05 pm

Vote Zwet

Yosarian2 wrote:Ideally, I would like to see him dead before he gets to post again, just in case he is a scum dayvig. I am 100% serious about this.

This is a good point. If he's scum dayvig, I don't want to give him a chance to shoot a townie.

DGB is my second suspect right now.

populartajo · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:06 pm

I cant believe Im with DGB in this one.
Specially because he is zwet.

populartajo · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:09 pm

Caboose wrote:I don't like how DGB is is setting herself up for the classic "I told you so" D2 if zwet flips town.

Wait, what? So do you think that DGB for some reason already knows zwet is town.

populartajo · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:10 pm

Mod votecount.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:15 pm

fos:caboose

Caboose · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:17 pm

Mind Read: Yosarian2

Yosarian2 · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:19 pm

Caboose wrote:I don't like how DGB is is setting herself up for the classic "I told you so" D2 if zwet flips town.

I think this post looks scummy. DGB looks like a town who thinks zwet is town and is trying to stop a lynch. If anyone looks like they have inside information, it's you; I really, really distrust you making this post while still voting for Zwet, makes me wonder if you're a scum who's playing us all and setting up future mislynches.