Medieval Mafia - Game Over

[crywolf20084]

Will rectify during my break between classes tomorrow. I did most of the major reading tonight but everything I'm typing is awfully incoherent.

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

9 to lynch

hasdgfas: 4 (scotmany12, populartajo, sam.samhorn, Thestatusquo)
Jebus: 4 (Xylthixlm, Yosarian2, qwints, camn)
Thestatusquo: 1 (DrippingGoofball)
DrippingGoofball: 1 (farside22)
camn: 1 (Jebus)
qwints: 1 (Kmd4390)
Kmd4390: 1 (hasdgfas)
stark: 1 (Caboose)

Not Voting: 3 (stark, crywolf20084, Korejora)

[Xylthixlm]

Will rectify during my break between classes tomorrow. I did most of the major reading tonight but everything I'm typing is awfully incoherent.

Everything I type is incoherent, too, but it doesn't stop me!

[crywolf20084]

Will rectify during my break between classes tomorrow. I did most of the major reading tonight but everything I'm typing is awfully incoherent.

Everything I type is incoherent, too, but it doesn't stop me!

Well that's the same for me, but it's worse than usual o-o;;

[Thestatusquo]

Look.. in honesty, I would like all lurkers to die.

IN THIS GAME, I am at the point where I want to get serious.... But a lurker is a FINE place to keep my vote until I decide on who must die. Just accept it.

And you are on the hook because
a) you were playing like scum.
b) Everyone is suspect
c) Replacing out because your feelings are hurt is almost as unacceptable, on a meta-level, as lurking.

But I am done with policy discussion. It is clear that Xylthixlm understands me.

Thats exactly what I was asking though. I will grant you b, and to some extent c, but pretty much what I was asking you to do was explain why you think a. I asked you why you thought I was scummy, and you pretty much responded by saying "well, you were acting scummy."

Extrapolation is your friend.

[Thestatusquo]

My bad. I'll fix that right up.

xyl: lurkers killed my father and raped my mother
xyl: and my brother was eaten by a giant cow

O.O

Confirm vote: hasdgfas

[qwints]

unvote, vote hascow

I like where this is going...

[Thestatusquo]

unvote, vote hascow

I like where this is going...

How about you add something to the game instead of just jumping on to the in vogue wagon? My vote could just as easily be on you as cow.

[qwints]

I'm good, thanks.

[Thestatusquo]

Vote: Quints

Thats completely unacceptable.

[DrippingGoofball]

IDENTIFICATION:

Lurker

PROPERTIES:

Scum

ACTION:

Vote

unvote, vote: qwints

[farside22]

Prod received. Sorry I had to stay home with the little one yesterday unexpectedly. Much reading to be done.

[sam.samhorn]

Besides, intentional lurking on day one isn't a scumtell anyway.

I look at it like this. There are places that are well-lit and hard to hide in (actively participating), and places that are dark and easy to hide in (lurking, active lurking, bandwagon hopping, etc.). The town needs to force the scum to play in the well-lit places. A meta that prevents lurking is

terrific

for the town.

Here's how I think the lurker problem gets fixed:

Those who lurk get prodded continually, or replaced. Those that get replaced are replaced by someone who's usually more talkative.

Those who lurk and then get called out on it sometimes see a rise in activity when they do. I have a sense that Jebus will begin posting.

Sometimes there are those who lurk but post just enough to bypass mod proddings and replacement are those that we need to really pay attention to. And it's difficult to gauge who those people are on day one, so it's best to wait until other days to do it.

Especially when we have this hasgfas scumbag over here who's so obviously mafia I can't begin to explain to you.

[sam.samhorn]

Vote: Quints

Thats completely unacceptable.

uh that was like the most townie-like reaction you could get

[DrippingGoofball]

Especially when we have this hasgfas scumbag over here who's so obviously mafia I can't begin to explain to you.

Are you as sure of that as you were of zwet?

[DrippingGoofball]

Vote: Quints

Thats completely unacceptable.

uh that was like the most townie-like reaction you could get

ORLY.

Maybe you'd like to explain it, and teach the rest of us something.

[populartajo]

People sam is obvtown. Quints its neutral at least.

FOS: TSQ and DGB

[populartajo]

populartajo:
I thought you were on V/LA till thursday.. but you have posted MOST of your wordcount since you left! You should go on vaca more often.
Pop reads like scum to me. He is posing enough, but without much meaning.
Stays away from the zwet wagon.. stays away from the lurker-battle despite being #2 on the Jebus wagon... then mildly goes after the Cow once it becomes cool. Which = scum.

LA means I dont have the normal access I have normally. I thought it would be worst but things should be totally fixed on Thursday.
The zwet wagon was weak and his kill illogical (with Caboose supporting his claim) but I can understand it from people that have never played with him.
Lurker battle is meh, Id rather lynch someone that is scummy. Jebus staying away and avoiding this zwet situation is scummy.
And I started the wagon on has, so you=fail.

[Kmd4390]

Well, yes, obviously, but you're not actually answering my point. You had an earlier chance immediately after zwet took back his fakeclaim. Why didn't you vote for him then? Why did you instead wait until a bunch of other people had jumped on?

Reading in context will do wonders for you. I thought I'd wait and see if he had anything to explain. Then Yos pointed out the possibility of Zwet being scum dayvig. It sounded both plausible and dangerous. So I wanted him lynched immediately.

Why didn't you mention the others in this post?

I wanted to see if other people saw the same things I did. But then Zwet responded and because he was online, I continued to question him and eventually pointed out the others. Then he got vidged. That's ok though. I was just about done with questioning him about that post anyway.

Could you restate the main points in your case on qwints? I'm still not seeing them.

487...

Hokai, guys, I've played a lot more games in IRC than PBP, so I'm just gonna go ahead and convert the game thus far so as to understand it better.

WIN.

I'm a big fan of reading the last 3 pages and jumping right in, then catching up gradually.

You miss things that way... I did it once on SA, but the game was on page 70+ and they have 40 posts per page. Actually, I read about half of Day 1 and the Day just before I replaced in. But still. I missed a lot.

Class in 8 minutes. I've read up until Camn's opinion post. That's the post where I say "This is too long. I don't have time." I'll get to it tonight.

[Yosarian2]

I'm still sick, but I'm going to try to get caught back up on this game.

The argument between DGB and TSQ is really silly. I have no opinion on that.

Nice fencesit.
+scumpoints

Fos:Caboose

Considering what the DGB/TSQ argument was about, this feels like you're trying to shoehorn a generic scumtell into a situation where it dosn't at all apply, and that seems scummy to me.

Let's see...then Kore replaced in, with perhaps the awesomest summery ever.

Jebus actually posted (!), although it was one of those darn "I'm here, will read and post later" posts. If he dosn't actualy "read and post" in the next few days, I'm totally in favor of just lynching him and being done with it.

qwints acts scummy, refuses to explain himself.

Here's how I think the lurker problem gets fixed:

Those who lurk get prodded continually, or replaced. Those that get replaced are replaced by someone who's usually more talkative.

Those who lurk and then get called out on it sometimes see a rise in activity when they do. I have a sense that Jebus will begin posting.

Sometimes there are those who lurk but post just enough to bypass mod proddings and replacement are those that we need to really pay attention to. And it's difficult to gauge who those people are on day one, so it's best to wait until other days to do it.

Eh...in my experence, a lot of people lurk but still pay attention to the game; you'd be surprised how often a lurker shows up right after a few votes appear on him.

Especially when we have this hasgfas scumbag over here who's so obviously mafia I can't begin to explain to you.

Try, please.

Right now, my gut is suspicious of Sam and Caboose, and both Jebus and qwints apparently need to be pressured to act in a more pro-town way. My vote could happily go on any of the 4 at the moment. I'll try to do targeted re-reads of them in a little while.

[Xylthixlm]

You miss things that way... I did it once on SA, but the game was on page 70+ and they have 40 posts per page. Actually, I read about half of Day 1 and the Day just before I replaced in. But still. I missed a lot.

It definitely beats never posting anything because you keep getting further and further behind, though.

[camn]

FYI, my current vote is not random.

Care to explain?

Not currently, no.

Scummy.

Next:

Yos, you know as well as I do that the logic for the meta policy is not because he's sure to be scum, but rather that we have to make the meta for miller claims unacceptable for scum.

I don't like letting miller claims into the meta. This is purely and simply a meta policy issue.

Clearly you understand Lynching someone for meta- or Policy- reasons.
YET>>>>
Even though you admit this...

It's equally likely to me that he is just flaking on this one game.

YOu somehow don't understand the benefit of policy lynching a lurker..

Jebus does not need to be lynched

.
Scummy.

NEXT, Back to Farside...

In my opinion the town is well served by knowing that my vote is not within the bounds of the RVI, but is not well served by knowing its purpose yet.

All will be revealed in due time, my tiny little friend.

How many times have I heard this promise?
And then, when you finally bless us with your insight.. it's this???

I found her comment where she said "Wait, we haven't had a night" to be scummy because to me it sounded like the kind of comment that a scum player would make if there was a night and they didn't realize it.

THATS what you were being all mysterious about?
Scummy.


NOW.. That said, even though those things were scummy.... you have done a lot that was NOT scummy... which is why you aren't OFF THE HOOK, but you DO deserve to live through the day.

For clarity.. this post should not be construed as a 'case' against TSQ. He asked when he was scummy... this is my response.

[DrippingGoofball]

For clarity.. this post should not be construed as a 'case' against TSQ. He asked when he was scummy... this is my response.

Hey, it looks like a pretty good case, when you put it together. With an experienced player like TSQ, you expect he'll be able to throw in a few pro-town posts.

Just sayin'

[Xylthixlm]

TSQ is earning townpoints slower than the other active players.

[Caboose]

WTF? Why are a bunch of people making these crappy attacks on me that I can't possibly defend myself from because they lack a case? Kore? camn?

@yos: Why does the fencesitting scumtell not apply?