Medieval Mafia - Game Over

[populartajo]

Oh forgot to add tajo. Don't like his defending of sam from absolutely nothing.

unvote:
vote: qwints

FOS: tajo, sam, stark and jebus

Again, scum wouldnt post this.

Vote: Quints

Thats completely unacceptable.

uh that was like the most townie-like reaction you could get

Also no comments of hascow?
Yep, I was right about farside.

I get hascow's paranoid reaction to the vig?? kill. As even though zwet was town and he made this game go to hell in a handbasket. And I didn't think he was scum and agreed with DGB (I'm going to hell now). All that said it made me wonder based on a few games (including my own) where that was a scum or town doing the kill.
He asked where else he role fished from TSQ.

Has is scum, yes or no?

[Yosarian2]

I get hascow's paranoid reaction to the vig?? kill. As even though zwet was town and he made this game go to hell in a handbasket. And I didn't think he was scum and agreed with DGB (I'm going to hell now). All that said it made me wonder based on a few games (including my own) where that was a scum or town doing the kill.
He asked where else he role fished from TSQ.

I don't think we want or need the daykiller to claim today, because I'm 95% sure the daykiller is pro-town. No way a scum with a one-shot daykill would waste it on a guy who was about to be lynched and, even if he had somehow survived, had claimed a pretty weak power role anyway.

[Kmd4390]

@KMD, I think its pretty safe to assume that Caboose isn't scum also. Scum stopping such a perfect D1 townie wagon its improbable, IMO.

So you think both are town strictly because they jumped off the wagon?

[populartajo]

@KMD, I think its pretty safe to assume that Caboose isn't scum also. Scum stopping such a perfect D1 townie wagon its improbable, IMO.

So you think both are town strictly because they jumped off the wagon?

No. I think they both have more probs of being town for jumping off a wagon that was so perfect for scum.

[farside22]

Oh forgot to add tajo. Don't like his defending of sam from absolutely nothing.

unvote:
vote: qwints

FOS: tajo, sam, stark and jebus

Again, scum wouldnt post this.

Vote: Quints

Thats completely unacceptable.

uh that was like the most townie-like reaction you could get

Also no comments of hascow?
Yep, I was right about farside.

I get hascow's paranoid reaction to the vig?? kill. As even though zwet was town and he made this game go to hell in a handbasket. And I didn't think he was scum and agreed with DGB (I'm going to hell now). All that said it made me wonder based on a few games (including my own) where that was a scum or town doing the kill.
He asked where else he role fished from TSQ.

Has is scum, yes or no?

I don't know.

[Kmd4390]

@KMD, I think its pretty safe to assume that Caboose isn't scum also. Scum stopping such a perfect D1 townie wagon its improbable, IMO.

So you think both are town strictly because they jumped off the wagon?

No. I think they both have more probs of being town for jumping off a wagon that was so perfect for scum.

Ok. I can see your reasoning there. Still disagree about Qwints, but I at least can follow what you are saying.

[farside22]

@KMD, I think its pretty safe to assume that Caboose isn't scum also. Scum stopping such a perfect D1 townie wagon its improbable, IMO.

So you think both are town strictly because they jumped off the wagon?

No. I think they both have more probs of being town for jumping off a wagon that was so perfect for scum.

Please I can't tell you what how faulty that thought process is.

[populartajo]

@KMD, I think its pretty safe to assume that Caboose isn't scum also. Scum stopping such a perfect D1 townie wagon its improbable, IMO.

So you think both are town strictly because they jumped off the wagon?

No. I think they both have more probs of being town for jumping off a wagon that was so perfect for scum.

Please I can't tell you what how faulty that thought process is.

Enlighten me.
And read hascow's posts and tell me what do you think of him.

[DrippingGoofball]

Scum wouldnt post this.

unvote

Caboose vouching for zwet combined w/ zwet claiming bodyguard means I don't want to lynch zwet today.

Thanks for the reminder.

As I stated earlier, pop is town.

unvote

[DrippingGoofball]

I say we give cowscum a 5 minute break while we steer qwintsscum to the slaughterhouse (notice the cattle puns?). We have qwintscum's attention now, let's milk it for all its worth, haha.

I don't have any beef with these cattle puns, but they are utterly useless.

Am I doing it right?

WRONG. It's udderly useless.

[DrippingGoofball]

Very happy with farsides re-entry to the game, FYI.

I assume now that DGB will accuse me of buddying or some such.

Well not exactly buddying, but since you've been caught bussing, you're now doing a 180, hitting the brakes, and scraping farside off the asphalt with a velvet shovel.

[Thestatusquo]

...

A little one liner knocked you off a case which you were calling obvscum for like 6 pages?

Something there doesn't fit right with me.

[farside22]

Very happy with farsides re-entry to the game, FYI.

I assume now that DGB will accuse me of buddying or some such.

Well not exactly buddying, but since you've been caught bussing, you're now doing a 180, hitting the brakes, and scraping farside off the asphalt with a velvet shovel.

Why do my questions get ignored?
Why do you think pop is town and why do you seperate what TSQ was doing versus Pop?

[Thestatusquo]

Very happy with farsides re-entry to the game, FYI.

I assume now that DGB will accuse me of buddying or some such.

Well not exactly buddying, but since you've been caught bussing, you're now doing a 180, hitting the brakes, and scraping farside off the asphalt with a velvet shovel.

Considering you keep calling farside townie, it really makes no sense to accuse me of busing her.

[Kmd4390]

I say we give cowscum a 5 minute break while we steer qwintsscum to the slaughterhouse (notice the cattle puns?). We have qwintscum's attention now, let's milk it for all its worth, haha.

I don't have any beef with these cattle puns, but they are utterly useless.

Am I doing it right?

WRONG. It's udderly useless.

unvote

Curious about this...

[DrippingGoofball]

They wouldn't want townie points knowing Zwet will flip town?

No - because zwet was over the top scummy. Potatojo and myself knew zwet's meta, as did the ever-absent Jebus, and we were the only two sticking up for him, and even then, we did reluctantly. There we no townie points to be gained from defending zwet as zwet was completely indefensible unless you knew that meta, or cared to heed other players' reporting of said meta.

The symptom that I believe is diagnostic of scum in this debacle is the refusal to temper one's judgment once zwet's meta was exposed, and close mindedness to arguments against his lynch.

[DrippingGoofball]

Considering you keep calling farside townie, it really makes no sense to accuse me of busing her.

I called her townie? Even once? In any game? Where...

[DrippingGoofball]

First I attacked the faulty logic of a voting system that would name him as just as likely to be scum as the person he was voting at the time. I often look at what people deem scum tells, and then use those as a standard to measure those people, because players very often use their own play as scum as a standard for what they see as scummy in other people.

This is a very good observation. Of course, as you notice, the reason for my low post count wasn't because I'm generally quiet but because

I had just replaced into the game

. I'm pretty sure you're smart enough to see that, and see that the argument above doesn't apply because of it. So what was your

real

reason?

He's scum. That's the

real

reason.

Also, if he's not bus'ing farside, why was he all over her from the moment the game started? She wasn't even there! And he was babbling on like he had some solid evidence.

If he was not bus'ing farside, perhaps he was anticipating that she'll be her usual scummy self and easy to lynch?

[DrippingGoofball]

Why do my questions get ignored?

I missed them.

Why do you think pop is town and why do you seperate what TSQ was doing versus Pop?

Because pop behaved appropriately for a player who, like me, was well aware of zwet's meta. As scum, even knowing zwet's meta, he could easily have found plenty of solid reasons to hop on the wagon and exploit zwet's errors all the way to the lynch, without consequences on his perceived alignment. He did not do that, and that's very much in his favor.

[Thestatusquo]

I've never played with farside before...How would I know she has a usual scummy self...

[DrippingGoofball]

I've never played with farside before...How would I know she has a usual scummy self...

Thanks for clearing up the matter. This leaves only one possibility, that is, bus'ing.

[Yosarian2]

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Also, if he's not bus'ing farside, why was he all over her from the moment the game started? She wasn't even there! And he was babbling on like he had some solid evidence.

If he was not bus'ing farside, perhaps he was anticipating that she'll be her usual scummy self and easy to lynch?

Did you go back and read the post where he voted farside?

I could have sworn that all we had was a confirmation phase. Why is everyone act like we had a night 0?

What are you talking about?

People asked why DGB was still alive. My thought well because there was no night 0 that is why.
I just voted for her because she loves to BW me to death.

Unvote, Vote Farside

Looks like a perfectly good "first non-random" vote to me; there were at least two different (although minor) scummy-ish things in that farside post he quoted. Nothing that's a big deal, but better then keeping a random vote.

[Thestatusquo]

Watch out, yos... She'll decide you're my scumbuddy too.

[Yosarian2]

Watch out, yos... She'll decide you're my scumbuddy too.

Oh, she already suggested that, several pages ago.

[DrippingGoofball]

There is also this post, coming immediately after TSQ's initial farside vote:

FYI,

my current vote is not random

.

Emphasis mine.