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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:06 pm

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Vote: Forbiddanlight


For trying to kill the mod in a game where killing the mod will probably be bad...I mean, after good things happen in three Tar games for lynching the mod, I don't thinking killing the mod would be a good thing here.

FoS: ortolan
for following suit with no reasoning. That's right, that was completely on purpose. I meant to vote ortolan and FoS Forbiddan...I mean, it's meta for FL, but not for Ortolan.

Also, I highly suggest taking a look at MS1, MS2, and Babylon 5 mafia for reference to roles that may or may not be in this game. It's good to get a feel for Tar games if you've never played one before.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:26 pm

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Dude, this is a Tarhalindur game. No way is that a mistype.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:48 am

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I have a much better idea. I think we should all lynch me instead.

UnFoS
FoS: Seraphim


Oh, and I'm dead serious about this. There is nothing random about it. From my role information, killing me before day 4 will be really good for the town.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:02 am

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No, not jester.

I considered acting scummy and getting myself lynched but realized that coming out and saying it would be most useful to the town and to my credibility. I don't need to be lynched or killed today. So long as it's before day 4, the town benefits.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:12 am

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I was playing a worst-case scenario where we're in LYOL by day 3 and we need to lynch scum. This allows for a cushion so we're not in a dire situation right off the bat. It's kinda like a night-start game with some information at the beginning.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #5) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:19 am

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DGB has the right of it.

The reason cannot be fully explained until Day 4 where I promise everything will be explained.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:30 am

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Not really; as I said earlier, this is almost a day zero with some added benefits later on. I was thinking of doing this on day 2 but getting it out of the way as soon as possible is the best thing that can happen right now.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #7) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:51 pm

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I can't elaborate on what I can do or what my death will trigger. Only that it will definitely benefit town and that it should make the game that much easier.

I would have tried to get NKed, except there's no guarantee that I would have been and I didn't want to take that risk. Getting lynched on day 1 when we can afford a mislynch seemed to be the best strategy and I still think it remains my best option to use my role to its fullest potential. You could almost say that I'm better off dead.

Feel free to continue the day, as we can lynch any other suspect on day 2. So long as am I today's lynch, I support the continuation of the day.
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Post Post #57 (isolation #8) » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:37 am

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I'll say it again: I didn't want to leave it up to chance. I need to be killed before day 4 if the town wants any sort of benefit. At night, the WIFOM begins. I might be vigged but the Mafia might have a doctor and I may be protected.

I need to die and day 1 is the best time for me to die.

In other news, Percy brings up some good points.

@Percy

After the day's interrogations are done, do you plan on having me lynched or would you rather target someone else as today's lynch?
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Post Post #60 (isolation #9) » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:09 pm

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Slowly or quickly doesn't matter as long I die.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #10) » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:21 pm

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Unvote
Vote: Trumpet of Doom


In a normal game, scum would want to foster a mislynch because it's good for scum and bad for town. Now here's a mislynch that will be good for the town and bad for the scum and here's a player trying to derail it.

Percy seems to have good reasons and doesn't strike me as scummy yet. He reads more as aggressive, thoughtful townie. But you're just repeating and it makes you sound like scared scum who doesn't want me killed and is following another player's lead.

Killing me now will have much more benefit than mislynching a townie today. Also, when making lynches in the futures, having a night under our belts will help find falseclaims which the scum
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have as they have had in almost every single Tar game.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #11) » Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:20 am

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If you guys can avoid being endgamed by day 4, I should be able to stop LYOL.
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Post Post #86 (isolation #12) » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:58 am

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I just want to say the flavor of my role does not reflect my self-sacrifice, at least to my knowledge.

I wish I could be more specific but scum might screw with anything that might happen if they figured out what I am doing.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #13) » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:22 pm

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I think it will be very interesting to discern the people with actual doubts about my lynch and the scum who are afraid of me.

Also, where's the mod? A vote count would be nice.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:20 am

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Dammit. Of course we lose her right off the bat. I didn't foresee that possibility.

If all goes well, however, her death might be irrelevant.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:26 am

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Also, something is up with ortolan. Forbiddanlight dies after FoS(vote)ing him and her vote is somehow placed on me. This cannot be just a coincidence.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:30 am

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Also, FL's death is NOT irrelevant as I had hoped. This game just got really, really bad for the town. Try to survive to Day 4 and hopefully my sacrifice will pay off.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #17) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:33 am

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Oh. Scratch the part about ortolan.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #18) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:03 am

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Yes, I'm lynched.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:13 am

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@veerus

I hope that the kill was planned. Otherwise the town is in deep, deep shit right now.
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Post Post #320 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:01 am

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Hey, everyone.

Looking back, I made a fatal, fatal error. I assumed that when I died, I'd be able to use abilities while I was in limbo. This was wrong and I probably should have asked before I tried to gambit. However, I'm glad I came back when I did...this was probably the only benefit from me returning from the dead.

One thing I can do, however, is talk to dead players. ANY dead player at any time during the game. Not disappeared players, like forbiddan, but players like ortolan, zwet, and DGB. Yes, and Budja too.

I need to reread and consult with my dead friends.

Panzer is clearly Alpha mafia, so town needs to decide whether or not a Beta mafia actually exists.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:24 am

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There are currently three kills unaccounted for:

1. Trumpet of Doom's crystallization.

2. DGB getting run over

3. Ortolan's death by...gun

If anyone wants to come forward and claim these kills, that would be nice. Especially the crystal one because that just baffles me.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:05 am

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I am Mikuru Asahina, town time traveler. When I died, I traveled in time to day 4, rendering me untargetable and able to communicate with dead players during that time. I have another ability but will not reveal it until tomorrow(if there is a tomorrow) as it will play no role in anything unless it goes through.

And Panzer, I know that's a lie. Budja's kill went through...poisoned is the kill method there.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:16 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #24) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:19 am

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The hell?

Thanks for waiting.

Percy is Beta scum. I have this confirmed from several sources.

Way to lose the game for town, whoever is the last town player.
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Post Post #342 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:09 am

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That was surprising. I did not expect the game to still be on. Anyway, I still stand by what I said before...Percy is scum. I have this confirmed from two (dead) sources. It's also possible that forbiddan is still alive and manipulating the game somehow if that's what Tar is hinting at...still possible to win this game guys.

From what I can see, Percy and veerus are most likely Beta Mafia. However, this does not mean that we should quicklynch again. NO ONE drop a vote yet. NO ONE. There are two Mafia left as suspected.

Hopefully, DGB and Trumpet will offer some interesting comments on the situation.
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Post Post #344 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:38 am

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Alright. I can talk to dead people at any time. Yes, I brought DGB back as a stump. I thought I'd be able to use that ability and have a confirmed town run around but I was wrong. I screwed up. I could give you more info but I think that you're scum especially since you're firing all your effort in discrediting me rather than scum-hunting.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:52 pm

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Alright. I'm thinking that either veerus or malt is bussing hardcore as that quick lynch can't have been all Percy. Percy is almost confirmed scum at this point but that is NO REASON TO END THE DAY SO QUICKLY. Do not put down any more votes until we have enough fuel for tomorrow. I'm positive that Beta mafia will be in full force tonight so we cannot mislynch today. We're out of lucky breaks, methinks.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #28) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:05 pm

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I read back and Panzer was the one responsible for ToD's condition. Just FYI.
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Post Post #350 (isolation #29) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:11 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Hi again, I've been stumped.
Looking forward to your input now that no one can shut up you up.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #30) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:11 pm

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EBWOP: *shut you up
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Post Post #353 (isolation #31) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:21 pm

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You were run over, presumedly by one of the undiscovered Beta mafia.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #32) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:50 pm

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Not sure what to think. We have some time so I'm going to read back and post my thoughts tomorrow.
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Post Post #370 (isolation #33) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:52 pm

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Did you see mine?
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Post Post #372 (isolation #34) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:52 pm

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I'm not ignoring it, just putting it off until I can think.
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Post Post #374 (isolation #35) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:54 pm

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Oh, sorry, thought you were talking to me. Simulpost go go go!
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Post Post #397 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:40 am

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Oh lawl. Tar just owned Percy.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #37) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:28 am

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I am not pleased that everyone wants to lynch Percy. Hardcore bussage may be occurring which worries me. Let's see what happens in regards to this...Tar couldn't have made it this easy.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #38) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:57 pm

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Vote: Trumpet of Doom
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Post Post #406 (isolation #39) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:06 pm

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ToD's willingness to kill Percy over a quick hammer. I looked back and quickly realized that my informants may be wrong. Percy, especially lately, does not actually read scum to me. I need to reread but I'm fairly sure that ToD is the scumbag we're looking for.

Plus, I trust DGB.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #40) » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:56 am

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As expected, hardcore bussing yesterday. Now that we have Percy-scum dead, I want an organized mass full claim. I'll go first and everyone will follow. I've been checking the patterns of scum and I'm fairly sure I can spot the final scum role.

I am Mikuru Asahina, Townie Time Traveler. I can talk to dead players at any time. I must choose a day at the beginning of the game, and if I die before that day, will revive on that chosen day. I can also revive one dead player as a stump. I chose day 4 as my revival day. I revived DGB as a stump on Day 4.

malt: In all honesty, I have no clue what the phase counter means. could you be more specific?

My personal theory concerning the kills or rather lack of them: I think that FL is somehow still engaged in the game.

I choose malt to FULLCLAIM next. Role name, title, and a run down of abilities and who you targeted. This is LYOL which means if we lynch right, scum can't do crap about it.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #41) » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:57 am

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Oh, and yesterday may have roffman's Endure day(check the role PM).
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Post Post #420 (isolation #42) » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:13 pm

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I would like the claims all in one place. Please, just claim now.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:01 am

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So, more information on this phase counter. Paraphrase what it said...nothing in my role PM suggests any sort of Phase Counter. I'm thinking veerus is the last scum...didn't Percy say something about him being confirmed town?
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Post Post #430 (isolation #44) » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:08 am

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Not much to say until veerus comes back, honestly. Even though I'm almost 100% sure he's scum, I still want to give him a chance to defend himself.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #45) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:39 pm

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veerus wrote:I'm back. I'll try to re-read today.
We eagerly await your content.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #46) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:03 pm

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Wait...but Malt has a phase counter too. Am I correct? Who did you target yesterday on Day 5? Or Day 4? Whatever day you didn't make a claim for?

I'm creating a theory...if this phase counter thing is true then town may have this game in the bag already regardless of who is scum. In fact, if veerus isn't phased and I'm not phased, and everyone else is...ha, town win. Excellent.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #47) » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:42 pm

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Alright, let's format this out, nice and smooth now.

Day 1: veerus targets afatchick
Day 2: veerus targets Panzer
Day 3: veerus targets malt which is blocked
Day 4: veerus targets malt
Day 5: veerus targets ToD

Now, let's check the NKs:
Day 1: DGB is killed by unknown Beta goon
roffman is killed by Budja Alpha
FL is killed by Ortolan SK

Day 2: Ortolan is killed by Percy Beta goon
Alpha-kill is blocked.
Panzer crystals ToD.
SK kill is blocked.

Day 3: No kills, all are blocked

Day 4: No kills

Day 5: No kills

I need to better read through this info...however, I should be able to double-check with dead players if they got phase counters or not. If veerus is telling the truth about using his ability on afatchic on D1, he can't have killed DGB.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #48) » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:12 pm

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Alright, you heard it here first. Unless there's some as-of-yet unconfirmed kill method, veerus can't have committed the first night kill against DGB because zwet received a phase counter on that day leading into day 2.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #49) » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:30 am

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Yes. I can wait and unless the lynch is on me, my vote is pretty much needed for any lynch.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #50) » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:33 am

Post by Seraphim »

Vote: mathusis


Let's get this show on the road.

veerus, DON'T TARGET ANYONE IF YOU ARE TOWN. The game should be over as I'm nearly 100% that you are not scum.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:38 am

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Woo, good game. There was a point where I thought my early game gambit would end up hurting the town(Day 3 I think it was) but numerous other things definitely turned the game in town's favor. And even though DGB wasn't as useful as I thought it would be(I thought I would've been able to bring her back even while I was gone, throwing a confirmed, unkillable townie into the mix), my abilities made me confirmed enough to act as mediator and detach myself from the game.

Excellent game everyone.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:28 am

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Lone Island Syndrome: "Until further notice, Rule 5 is revoked. All players will be informed of this." (roleblocked, thank the gods)
Would this have allowed us to talk to FL?
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Post Post #486 (isolation #53) » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:23 pm

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Yeah, I realized later that my D1 lynch of myself was somewhat stupid but due to a lot of luck, I managed to make it work. It was a misunderstand, something that will not happen in any games I join of yours again.
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