Medieval Mafia - Game Over

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

9 to lynch

stark: 6 (Caboose, Tarhalindur, DrippingGoofball, populartajo, camn, Xylthixlm)
qwints: 4 (Kmd4390, Yosarian2, crywolf20084, hasdgfas)
hasdgfas: 4 (scotmany12, sam.samhorn, qwints, farside22)

Not Voting: 3 (stark, Korejora, Rogueben)

DEADLINE: Tuesday March 3rd, 10:00 PM EST

[stark]

UNVOTE. VOte Stark

This is for you, pops. I feel like you are trying to tell us something.

Plus.. this post is really indicative of a poor level of reading comprehension.

I think I would like to see a qwints claim before I put him at -1

Way to wagon.

I don't feel I need to read. If someone is so sure of themselves in their accusation of someone else as scum, they should be more than able to summarize a case for another player who may not have the opportunity to catch up with 40 pages of very fast moving game.

Besides, at this point in the game, reading is not important. We have only one player dead, who gives us no leads. Once scum start dying, then we can go back and analyze posts etc., but more information is gathered in the early stages of the game by simply observing players reactions in the present.

[camn]

Why didn't you simply read qwint's posts? There is only a handful of them.

I propose it is because you already know his orientation... so you weren't even curious.

But answer, please.

[crywolf20084]

UNVOTE. VOte Stark

This is for you, pops. I feel like you are trying to tell us something.

Plus.. this post is really indicative of a poor level of reading comprehension.

I think I would like to see a qwints claim before I put him at -1

Way to wagon.

I don't feel I need to read. If someone is so sure of themselves in their accusation of someone else as scum, they should be more than able to summarize a case for another player who may not have the opportunity to catch up with 40 pages of very fast moving game.

Besides, at this point in the game, reading is not important. We have only one player dead, who gives us no leads. Once scum start dying, then we can go back and analyze posts etc., but more information is gathered in the early stages of the game by simply observing players reactions in the present.

1) STFU, they main votes are for people that are not participating, thus to make your own opinion on the qwints wagon, do as camn said and read the 18 one liners. (It's not that hard)

2) The qwints wagon has been outlined many times, and there really isn't much to say about it other than he's not JUST a lurker, he's a SCUMMY lurker.

3) This very post of yours has made me change my mind,

UNVOTE; VOTE STARK

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qwints, i'll be back for you, stark does seem like the optimal play right now, and populartajo with your push against the qwints wagon makes me kinda suspicious.

[Xylthixlm]

Besides, at this point in the game, reading is not important. We have only one player dead, who gives us no leads. Once scum start dying, then we can go back and analyze posts etc., but more information is gathered in the early stages of the game by simply observing players reactions in the present.

How will we go back and analyze

your

posts if you aren't reading?

[sam.samhorn]

stark is town; i guarantee it.

*continues to attempt to draw attention to hasdgfas*

[Xylthixlm]

stark is town; i guarantee it.

Is that a "you can lynch me if I'm wrong" guarantee or a "I'll furiously backpedal if I'm wrong" guarantee?

[sam.samhorn]

Everybody on this stark wagon is super scummy!

Every vote is a "policy vote" and not instead a measure of his actual scumminess.

Policy votes are scummy at this stage in the game

[Xylthixlm]

Policy votes are scummy at this stage in the game

Which

stage of the game? Day 1?

[Xylthixlm]

Oh, and...

Everybody on this stark wagon is super scummy!

The people on the stark wagon are some of the most obvtown people in the game. Are you even reading, or are you just calling people scummy because you disagree with them?

[Rogueben]

Continued...

sam.samhorn

- I don't like his style of giving definitives. He said both that zwet was def scum and Has is def scum. This strikes me as a little off. His policy of not reading players (DGB and Xyl) is irresponisble and immature in my opinion and allows himself an out if they are probing him later. His answer to my question was satisfactory, but still shows a high level of immaturity. I don't have a strong read on him as some things he has said are quite scummy and some things are quite town. I would put him at slightly scummier than average.

Caboose

- I've really liked his play all the way through. He's logical, doesn't rely on others to tell him things and has played generally in a way that I would associate with pro-townness.

Tarhalindur/Jebus

- Jebus was lurker extraodinaire but I don't understand all the attention that was upon him, he looked to me like a lurker that was just not interested in playing such a fast paced game. Tar's entry to the game was interesting because his read was so similar to what I got out of the game, except for the Caboose read. I like Tar's chances of being town.

populartajo

- Was worried about him doing more today then harp on about hascow. He has started to change that in the last couple of hours actually so that's better. I'd put him middle of the road leaning towards town.

Wanted to finish this tonight but I'm out of time. Will finish tomorrow morning, I'm liking the stark wagon though.

[camn]

OK, look.

I am pretty drunk.

But I will say this.
I read Pop as sftclaiming.. and sam as softclaiming.

as you know.. I find softclaiming super scummy... so you, ESPECIALLY sam.. sould explain yourselves pronto. Yours seems like a scum soft-fake-claim.

Whats the deal?

straight question. Why do you, sam, "guarantee" that stark is town????

Explain it now. If you are mason or have role info.. explain now. Otherwise I will assume you are scum fake-soft-claiming, and push your lynch relentlessly.

that is all. I am tired of this crap.

[DrippingGoofball]

PopTartajo softclaimed???

[Kmd4390]

What exactly is the case on Stark?

[DrippingGoofball]

What exactly is the case on Stark?

All his posts. Read them.

[Kmd4390]

Ok.

Stark's posts:
Starts off asking DGB and TSQ if they are scum. "Confirms" both and asks for top scum suspects. It's still early, so I consider this acceptable.

Tells Zwet to use his kill today. If he was really a vig, that would have been optimal play.

Asks for ideas on who Zwet should vig. Reasonable question.

Ok, here's a scummy post. Fence-sits on DGB vs TSQ, rolefishes Jebus, and calls Caboose scummy with no case.

Promises to catch up.

Asks what the case on Qwints is. I'd say scummy because I'd posted it twice, but if he was genuinely having a hard time catching up, it's understandable. This point comes down to, "Is his lurking strategical or is he having a hard time keeping up?"

Asks how sure I am about Qwints. Again, I can see this as either a town or scum tell.

Asks for a Qwints claim. See above (same as asking for the case on Qwints).

Last post, he's frustrated that he's being wagoned. I disagree about Day 1 having no leads, but I've seen far too many players honestly believe this to consider it scummy.

So, the case on him if I'm not mistaken:
-fence-sitting DGB vs TSQ.
-rolefishing on Jebus
-calling out Caboose with no case
-lurking

The first two could have reasonable explanations. I'd still like to know why he was suspicious of Caboose. That combined with lurking, well TBH, I don't think that's enough for me to want to lynch Stark over.

Conclusion: I will vote Stark if needed to avoid No Lynch (no majority at deadline is No Lynch), but I would much rather lynch Qwints than Stark.

Also, happy scumday OGML.

[DrippingGoofball]

Add to your list:

Has continued to avoid contributing while in jeopardy of being lynched.

[Yosarian2]

Everybody on this stark wagon is super scummy!

Why, exacatlly? And why?

Every vote is a "policy vote" and not instead a measure of his actual scumminess.

I don't think anyone specifically said they were policy voting Stark; again, could you be specific?

Policy votes are scummy at this stage in the game

Why?

Also, I noticed you didn't answer Xylthixlm's question.

Which stage of the game? Day 1?

[Caboose]

Everybody on this stark wagon is super scummy!

Quasi-chainsaw defense.
+super scumpoints IF stark flips scum

Every vote is a "policy vote" and not instead a measure of his actual scumminess.

Wrong. Read the thread. And don't misrepresent the reasons for my vote.

Policy votes are scummy at this stage in the game

It's not a policy vote.

[camn]

PopTartajo softclaimed???

not overtly.... I just am reading him that way...with his funny spelling of 'optymal' and everything....

though today, in my sobriety.. I think I may be wrong re: pop.
but I still demand answers from Sam.

[DrippingGoofball]

Everybody on this stark wagon is super scummy!

Why, exacatlly? And why?

Hey camn... look at Yos' spelling of "exactly!" Is that a soft claim?

*just kidding*

[sam.samhorn]

I don't think anyone specifically said they were policy voting Stark; again, could you be specific?

Please state the case on stark and why he's scummy.

Policy votes are scummy at this stage in the game

Why?

Also, I noticed you didn't answer Xylthixlm's question.

Which stage of the game? Day 1?

This far into day one, yes. Why wouldn't they be? It's not like that person is scumhunting or anything.

[sam.samhorn]

UNVOTE. VOte Stark

This is for you, pops. I feel like you are trying to tell us something.

Plus.. this post is really indicative of a poor level of reading comprehension.

I think I would like to see a qwints claim before I put him at -1

Way to wagon.

I don't feel I need to read. If someone is so sure of themselves in their accusation of someone else as scum, they should be more than able to summarize a case for another player who may not have the opportunity to catch up with 40 pages of very fast moving game.

Besides, at this point in the game, reading is not important. We have only one player dead, who gives us no leads. Once scum start dying, then we can go back and analyze posts etc., but more information is gathered in the early stages of the game by simply observing players reactions in the present.

1) STFU, they main votes are for people that are not participating, thus to make your own opinion on the qwints wagon, do as camn said and read the 18 one liners. (It's not that hard)

2) The qwints wagon has been outlined many times, and there really isn't much to say about it other than he's not JUST a lurker, he's a SCUMMY lurker.

3) This very post of yours has made me change my mind,

UNVOTE; VOTE STARK

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qwints, i'll be back for you, stark does seem like the optimal play right now, and populartajo with your push against the qwints wagon makes me kinda suspicious.

This right here is the post in reference where I call the stark case scummy. Is this a different case than the cases other people have for voting stark? Note that I'm still not reading two peoples' posts and they take up a good 1/2 of the posts in this game, so if they have a different case on stark I'm unaware of it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Note that I'm still not reading two peoples' posts and they take up a good 1/2 of the posts in this game, so if they have a different case on stark I'm unaware of it.

[Xylthixlm]

Our dayvig could do worse than shooting sam.samhorn tomorrow.