Are we officially massclaiming?
ZMD wrote:That leaves JScope, who didn't vote Yos and RW, who you all know my opinion of by now.
That is a very black and white way to look at the Yosariwen wagon. We have 2 more days in this action phase so I think we should take a careful look at the rise of the Yosariwen wagon.
It’s true I never voted for Yosariwen but that wasn’t because I didn’t think they were suspicious. I was questioning them to get more information, specifically from the Nuwen half during that time when Yosariwen was trying to explain for Nuwen. The pressure that came in other people’s votes always looked like the right amount of votes when I was looking at Yosariwen more and more closely, but I didn’t want to vote unless I was very confidant that Nuwen was playing scummy and not a newbie mistake. (I hadn’t seen her play in War in Heaven or any other big game; only marathon games so I had no reliable meta on her).
Post 129 is when I first started wondering what Nuwen meant by the chance of a power role being scum, which didn’t sound like the original claim that the crumb was a null tell. I needed Nuwen to explain that, so I didn’t want to vote yet.
Post 176 I thought I had caught in inconsistency in Nuwen and Yosarian’s stories about when they talked about the crumb in private before talking in the thread. I gave a FoS but not a vote because, again, they really needed to defend that point in order for me to know how strong a scumtell this was.
Post 320 I had to acknowledge that Yos was defending using his appeal to authority but in that case I didn’t push the issue with a vote because I figured it might be a playstyle tell and not a alignment tell. Isn’t that what “I agree with Yosarian2” comes from? Him being persuasive by reputation? Still, it was weird so I pointed it out in case people that knew him better could elaborate it if it was really a scumtell.
In post 320 I also said that Yos’s arguments were reasonable but they didn’t break the case because it was Nuwen who decided to out the crumb and she must have had, partially or fully, her own intentions for doing so. Her intentions might not be the same as his, or what he came up with later on.
Anyway by this point Yosariwen had 5 or 6 votes out of a possible 7. If I added my vote it would have had to be the last word and I felt there was still time to pressure Nuwen without a vote.
Of course I don’t have to have a solid case to add an early vote on someone but in many games that is just the way I play. But if you look at the rise of the Yosariwen wagon I was generally in favor of the wagon and started pushing questions since there was even a single vote.
I need to re-read to determine who is most scummy.
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