DHSDSM alpha: Game Over.

[ortolan]

Jah

[Ortohoops]

and I didn't mean they said they'd be on V/LA, I just found it ironic they were busy discussing ethics of lurking/faking V/LA

while

they are apparently lurking in this game.

Vote: Apples & Bananas

We're still waiting...

[Raging Wishbone]

I believe I'm at L-1 btw.

Sorry ZMD one more question to throw your way. If you have studied and read and paid attention enough to this thread as you claim...considering twilight lasted only about 20 hours and consisted of 10 to 15 posts. Why did you think you were at L1 Bro?

You weren't, you only had two votes on you! Why write I believe rather then go back and check to make sure you are at L1 before making an elaborate post condeming several players and "warning" everyone not to vote for you because you were at L1 and in essence, implying that they would be hammering you?

You went after A & B pretty hard, but you didin't even know that you were NOT at L1?

Please let me know yor thoughts, thanks.

[Raging Wishbone]

and I didn't mean they said they'd be on V/LA, I just found it ironic they were busy discussing ethics of lurking/faking V/LA

while

they are apparently lurking in this game.

Vote: Apples & Bananas

We're still waiting...

It's an awesome catch and great thread... I Cant vote for them though yet. I really want to hear my partners thoughts on the discussion tonight first.

[Apples and Banana]

Ummmm....that thread was irrelevant. I never said I'd be V/LA here, I've just been quite busy. And the fact xofelf is posting is completely irrelevant, she hasn't posted here YET.

I tracked ZMD for the first phase, he didn't target anyone.
My other targets are all dead, unfortunately.
I told you, I crumbed Tracker with the blatant misspelling EVERY time I used the word.
I find it ridiculous people somehow think I bussed my last buddy with 8ish Town (and another killer) alive, then fakeclaimed a role that's basically impossible to fake for any length of time.

[Raging Wishbone]

Ummmm....that thread was irrelevant. I never said I'd be V/LA here, I've just been quite busy. And the fact xofelf is posting is completely irrelevant, she hasn't posted here YET.

I tracked ZMD for the first phase, he didn't target anyone.
My other targets are all dead, unfortunately.
I told you, I crumbed Tracker with the blatant misspelling EVERY time I used the word.
I find it ridiculous people somehow think I bussed my last buddy with 8ish Town (and another killer) alive, then fakeclaimed a role that's basically impossible to fake for any length of time.

Sorry you confussed me a bit... You wrote this...

Wait...ZMD...did you say you didn't target

anyone

Day 1?

Can you please elaborate a bit? Thi sseems like an epiphany on ZMD! Who did you target the second pahse? Who are you targeting now?

[Raging Wishbone]

EBWOP

Ummmm....that thread was irrelevant. I never said I'd be V/LA here, I've just been quite busy. And the fact xofelf is posting is completely irrelevant, she hasn't posted here YET.

I tracked ZMD for the first phase, he didn't target anyone.
My other targets are all dead, unfortunately.
I told you, I crumbed Tracker with the blatant misspelling EVERY time I used the word.
I find it ridiculous people somehow think I bussed my last buddy with 8ish Town (and another killer) alive, then fakeclaimed a role that's basically impossible to fake for any length of time.

Sorry you confussed me a bit... You wrote this...

Wait...ZMD...did you say you didn't target

anyone

Day 1?

Can you please elaborate a bit? This seems like an epiphany on ZMD! Who did you target the second pahse? Who are you targeting now?

Edit: I would like to know who you targeted "dead or alive" but again the most important questions is your "epiphany" on ZMD, in my opinion.

[SensFan]

Second phase: PokeTheAlpaca
Third phase: Hogfather
Fourth phase: Not saying

I was trying to scare ZMD into changing his claim and saying he targetted someone.

[Apples and Banana]

Oh, and

Vote: ortohoops

[ortolan]

- If he claimed vanilla, why did you need to ask him specifically: "so, you didn't target anyone night 1"
- Why did you target Zmd?
- Who were your other targets, and why did you target them?

- Your story re: "trakcer" checks out.

And here I (almost) break the setup:

Action Phase 1 we tracked Yosariwen, who strangely enough we got no result on.

Mafia doctor (roflcopter) cannot submit a kill due to Hippocratic oath.

If Apples & Bananas is indeed a tracker, this

clears

Zmd because they

cannot

have submitted N1 kill.

I just previewed; why are you voting us?

[SensFan]

- If he claimed vanilla, why did you need to ask him specifically: "so, you didn't target anyone night 1"
- Why did you target Zmd?

I chose him because he can read me supposedly 100%.
I was trying to scare him into panicking, since if he is the last Scum, I wanted him to think I had a result on him.

- Who were your other targets, and why did you target them?

I targetted them because I thought they were Scum.

- Your story re: "trakcer" checks out.

Obviously. I wouldn't lie about something THAT blatant.

And here I (almost) break the setup:

Action Phase 1 we tracked Yosariwen, who strangely enough we got no result on.

Mafia doctor (roflcopter) cannot submit a kill due to Hippocratic oath.

If Apples & Bananas is indeed a tracker, this

clears

Zmd because they

cannot

have submitted N1 kill.

Nice.

I just previewed; why are you voting us?

Your ridiculous case on me involving a completely irrelevant MD discussion.

[ortolan]

It wasn't a case, it was pressure for you to reveal your results as at the time your behaviour made no sense. And it had nothing to do with the MD discussion itself, it was the fact you were posting in MD when all you had to do was reveal your results which would take two minutes. It was particularly suspicious when you were lurking so close to the turnover of a new action phase. We are actually already one hour

into

the new action phase now, which I believe means a scum-kill can potentially take place within only five hours.

[SensFan]

It wasn't a case, it was pressure for you to reveal your results as at the time your behaviour made no sense. And it had nothing to do with the MD discussion itself, it was the fact you were posting in MD when all you had to do was reveal your results which would take two minutes. It was particularly suspicious when you were lurking so close to the turnover of a new action phase. We are actually already one hour

into

the new action phase now, which I believe means a scum-kill can potentially take place within only five hours.

In that case, you need to explain why I would bus my last buddy in face of 8ish Town and another killer, then go on to fakeclaim probably the single hardest role to fakeclaim in Mafia (except maybe Watcher).

[ortolan]

^^ My reason for voting you

was not

based on an assessment of your play all game, but purely your actions in not revealing your results (which would take two minutes), at a crucial time-dependent point in the game; while instead putting more than two minutes total worth of work into posting in Mafia Discussion.

If I was really a tracker I'd be panicking about getting my results out before I get killed.

Your suggestion that "I wouldn't claim tracker, the hardest role to fake" is actually quite bizarre in this context also, because we know all the possible roles from the opening post. Furthermore we know there's already been a mafia doctor and roleblocker, and two trackers. What other role would you be better to fake-claim as scum?

[SensFan]

^^ My reason for voting you

was not

based on an assessment of your play all game, but purely your actions in not revealing your results (which would take two minutes), at a crucial time-dependent point in the game; while instead putting more than two minutes total worth of work into posting in Mafia Discussion.

If I was really a tracker I'd be panicking about getting my results out before I get killed.

Your suggestion that "I wouldn't claim tracker, the hardest role to fake" is actually quite bizarre in this context also, because we know all the possible roles from the opening post. Furthermore we know there's already been a mafia doctor and roleblocker, and two trackers. What other role would you be better to fake-claim as scum?

Townie, Cop, Doc, ANYTHING but Tracker.

Let's pretend I fakeclaim Tracker.
Then someone else claims Doc.
I'm asked to Track him.
I lose unless I guess right.

[ortolan]

I was trying to scare him into panicking, since if he is the last Scum, I wanted him to think I had a result on him.

Um, actually I just realised this logic is also fail. If you are a tracker, and got no result on him, then even if he is scum he

knows

he didn't put in the kill (or do anything else for that matter) on night one. What were you hoping to accomplish exactly???

[ortolan]

Let's pretend I fakeclaim Tracker.
Then someone else claims Doc.
I'm asked to Track him.
I lose unless I guess right.

You kill the doctor then say that's what the mafia would have done???

[SensFan]

I was trying to scare him into panicking, since if he is the last Scum, I wanted him to think I had a result on him.

Um, actually I just realised this logic is also fail. If you are a tracker, and got no result on him, then even if he is scum he

knows

he didn't put in the kill (or do anything else for that matter) on night one. What were you hoping to accomplish exactly???

He doesn't know whether or not I tracked him.
He might have panicked.

[ortolan]

So...you still believe in your vote on us? [Why?]

[Zmd]

If you say the reason you are going to leave mafiascum is because you get accused of being scum when you are town.... Well then I would rather let you win then not be able to play with you again.

If we all do decide to play the take the two most Townies to end game... I wanna give Zaphod a free pass there win or lose... I mean come on does anyone else want to see her leave Mafiascum? Even if we lose we will win because she will stay right? meh, she gets to sleep with herself at night winning this way.

Are you being serious?

None of us want DGB to leave. But what will we accomplish by letting her win this specific game if she is scum?

This post is so bad it hurts.

@Zmd - Why do you think FrogDodge said he was going to track you next? Why did he die mere hours after he wrote that?

They probably saw us as suspicious. And they probably died because they were a claimed tracker.

She is a sweety and fun to play with!

QFT.

...Damn A & B hopefully will post soon to clear thinga up... I mean there is no semantics error in his post right? He asked a question of ZMD which implied ZMD lied? Therefore, one of them is lying?

Seemed that he implied we targeted someone.

You know what? He basically softclaimed a guilty on us and now is nowhere to be found (except other threads lol).

Wait. I missed this:

I was trying to scare ZMD into changing his claim and saying he targetted someone.

That's the only way I was thinking he would back off of that. And I can see him doing that as a real tracker.

[Zmd]

That's why I missed that.

Ok, gotta read this page. I saw that last quote on Sens' post history.

[Zmd]

Sorry ZMD one more question to throw your way. If you have studied and read and paid attention enough to this thread as you claim...considering twilight lasted only about 20 hours and consisted of 10 to 15 posts. Why did you think you were at L1 Bro?

Didn't realize people were voting during twilight.

You weren't, you only had two votes on you! Why write I believe rather then go back and check to make sure you are at L1 before making an elaborate post condeming several players and "warning" everyone not to vote for you because you were at L1 and in essence, implying that they would be hammering you?

I was going to bed very shortly after that post. I didn't take the time to go back and look.

You went after A & B pretty hard, but you didin't even know that you were NOT at L1?

I was going after A&B because they claimed a guilty on us. Something I knew to be untrue.

I find it ridiculous people somehow think I bussed my last buddy with 8ish Town (and another killer) alive, then fakeclaimed a role that's basically impossible to fake for any length of time.

While I do believe you right now, it's very easy to fake tracker if you wait until massclaim to claim results and you say a vanilla didn't target anyone and your other targets are dead.

And here I (almost) break the setup:

Action Phase 1 we tracked Yosariwen, who strangely enough we got no result on.

Mafia doctor (roflcopter) cannot submit a kill due to Hippocratic oath.

If Apples & Bananas is indeed a tracker, this

clears

Zmd because they

cannot

have submitted N1 kill.

Ok, so N1 Trotsky was dead and Yos didn't kill. The living scum killed N1. Sens says that we didn't target anyone N1. Him being a tracker clears us. Even if he is lying, he is the last scum, so that makes us town.

We are confirmed town now.

I chose him because he can read me supposedly 100%.

I can't read

anyone

100% other than myself. I have one major tell on you, but I didn't expect to see it at all in this game and I haven't yet.

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So let's get lynching. We are confirmed town. A&B is likely town. Ortohoops is likely town. Let's lynch RW, JScope, Zaph, and nyball in that order. If we do it quickly enough, it's probably a win.

[ortolan]

Someone's gonna die soon. As soon as that happens I fully support quicklynching down the list, as fast as possible

[Raging Wishbone]

So let's get lynching. We are confirmed town. A&B is likely town. Ortohoops is likely town. Let's lynch RW, JScope, Zaph, and nyball in that order. If we do it quickly enough, it's probably a win.

You are being sarcastic right? You are not confirmed town, lol, we have a third scum who could have submitted one of the two kills. We don't know Apples and Banana really is a tracker and actually watched you phase one... If it come down to a quick lynch, ZMD you are and have been on the top of the list, imo.

[Raging Wishbone]

EBWOP

So let's get lynching. We are confirmed town. A&B is likely town. Ortohoops is likely town. Let's lynch RW, JScope, Zaph, and nyball in that order. If we do it quickly enough, it's probably a win.

You are being sarcastic right? You are not confirmed town, lol, we have a third scum who could have submitted one of the two kills. We don't know Apples and Banana really is a tracker and actually watched you phase one... If it come down to a quick lynch, ZMD you are and have been on the top of the list, imo.