Suicide Bomber Mafia - GAME OVER - Fastest Large Theme Ever?

[shaft.ed]

Meh I don't think this set up is too imbalanced, the town effectively has two lynches per kill cycle. The fact that they (some at least) played like immature children doesn't mean it's a bad set up.

[Xylthixlm]

I've never seen a game where everyone could kill that wasn't some sort of disaster for the town.

And I

still

haven't.

[PokerFace]

Fuzzy lightning was scum and never posted once during the game. There should be award for getting away with something like that. heh heh

I guess its balanced equally but then other heavy kill games like Bad Idea Mafia, Worse Idea Mafia, and

slightly

Dynamite Mafia were all balanced in favor of the town because of pre-cieved elements of choas so I'm not sure what to think. Either way its a nice change of pace since this one actually still allows you to lynch. Very good concept MoS

[Mastermind of Sin]

To be fair, I think both Bad Idea mafias were won by scum (I was Godfather in the second one ), so I think there is a track record for town failing in these kinds of setups.

[Sir Tornado]

This game was a farce. The town was filled with too many dimwits who didn't have the maturity/aptitude to play this game.

[Claus]

This game was a farce. The town was filled with too many dimwits who didn't have the maturity/aptitude to play this game.

aren't all mafia games like that?

[hasdgfas]

Fuzzy lightning was scum and never posted once during the game. There should be award for getting away with something like that. heh heh

The "His computer broke after he signed up and therefore didn't have a way to post for the entirety of the game" award?

Note: I'm not him, I just know him IRL, and this was what happened.

[Sir Tornado]

aren't all mafia games like that?

Fair point Claus.

But, generally, they don't throw the game away for the town before the majority even have a chance to cast their vote.

[PokerFace]

Fuzzy lightning was scum and never posted once during the game. There should be award for getting away with something like that. heh heh

The "His computer broke after he signed up and therefore didn't have a way to post for the entirety of the game" award?

Note: I'm not him, I just know him IRL, and this was what happened.

oh, ouch! I guess it was unintentional then. Computer failure sucks but at least it didn't cause him to loose. Lurking generally aids scum in the Heavy day kill games.

To be fair, I think both Bad Idea mafias were won by scum (I was Godfather in the second one ), so I think there is a track record for town failing in these kinds of setups.

Pretty Much

Scum Wins:
Expolosiva
Bad Idea Mafia
Bad Idea Mafia 2
Russian Roulette 2
Yosarians Nuke Game
Unreal Tournament Mafia
Worse Idea Mafia - Guardian fails
Marathon Bad Idea Mafias 1 and 2
The Battle of Heaven Series (Did town win any of those?)

Town Wins:
Dynamite Mafia
Really Bad Idea
Russian Roulette 1 & 3
UT Prototype (Wors

t

Idea)

[zu_Faul]

Meh I don't think this set up is too imbalanced, the town effectively has two lynches per kill cycle. The fact that they (some at least) played like immature children doesn't mean it's a bad set up.

They don't have exactly two lynches, as one of those two will at least be a mislynch.

[Mastermind of Sin]

To be fair, I think both Bad Idea mafias were won by scum (I was Godfather in the second one ), so I think there is a track record for town failing in these kinds of setups.

Pretty Much

Scum Wins:
Expolosiva
Bad Idea Mafia
Bad Idea Mafia 2
Russian Roulette 2
Yosarians Nuke Game
Unreal Tournament Mafia
Worse Idea Mafia - Guardian fails
Marathon Bad Idea Mafias 1 and 2
The Battle of Heaven Series (Did town win any of those?)

Town Wins:
Dynamite Mafia
Really Bad Idea
Russian Roulette 1 & 3
UT Prototype (Wors

t

Idea)

Ouch.

[Xylthixlm]

There's obviously some effect which causes town results in these games to be worse than the EVs would indicate. I propose we name this effect "The Fritzler factor".

[Mastermind of Sin]

lol...

[The Fonz]

There's obviously some effect which causes town results in these games to be worse than the EVs would indicate. I propose we name this effect "The Fritzler factor".

Seconded.

In fact, in BIM, it's gotten to the stage when often, people don't even talk until all the Fritz-minded players have gotten their compulsive vigging out of the way.

The Fritzler effect hurts more, the greater the cost of misvigging. Here, since it costs two town lives, it was THE most detrimental possible. (As ever with the complete disaster games, the town also gets unlucky. Odds are on three random suicides hitting a scum, I think).

[Mastermind of Sin]

There is like an 86% chance that the town will hit a scum in the first three days, and that's only after assuming that there is always a suicide by a protown person, that the town doesn't correctly pressure a scum or anything like that.

[Skruffs]

/confirm as co-mod. >.>

[Mastermind of Sin]

lmao

[Kise]

I know I wasn't involved in this game, but I just want to say how the last 2 suicide-kills had me rolling. Especially the one that was made as SOON as the day started.

[Mr. Flay]

Scum Wins:
...
The Battle of Heaven Series (Did town win any of those?)

Nope (that's three more examples, counting the Marathon Day microgame which was a bit of a cockup). Town also lost both regular Mutually Assured Destruction games, and nuclear winter claimed the Marathon Day version.

I think there's something to the Fritzler effect, people get drunk on the power of their own potency and start to make stupid, snap decisions.

[The Fonz]

And the Fritzler effect makes lurking absolutely optimal for scum. This is the second time i've seen an 'everyone vigs' game won by a scum who never posted. MoS, of course, remembers the first one.

/bitter

[Mastermind of Sin]

I do? o.O

[Shanba]

The crucial difference between fritzler and most other people is that fritzler has a p good record as a day vig.

[The Fonz]

You know, MAD I, when you nuked me for suggesting that anyone who nuked unprovoked ought to be immediately counternuked as a deterrent.

[Mastermind of Sin]

And with this game as evidence, I still find myself justified in thinking that your plan only helps scum. Even with a guarantee that they will die for suiciding someone, people STILL made unprovoked kills in this game, which led to a scum win. Counternuking = fail.

[The Fonz]

And I still think that your unprovoked nuke helped scum. I just wished i'd counternuked you... stupid assuming Pooky's missile was genuine...