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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:10 am

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/confirm

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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:48 pm

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are the numbers actually going to affect the game, or are they just flavour?
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Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:39 pm

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Vote: Hoopla


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Post Post #35 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:38 pm

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Gorrad wrote:Yeah, Hoopla, and I'd be a bloody IDIOT if I claimed Spy, Bomb, or Flag.
What's to say Spy, Bomb or Flag aren't town roles? You're pretty well informed for a town role.

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Also in the version I played spy was 1 <<
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Post Post #38 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:15 pm

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I fail to see what's scummy about my post. I think it's scummier Gorrad is agaisnt claiming three specific roles, in a game where there are most probably three mafia members.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #5) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:11 am

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I'm not a fan of quick early-wagons and I don't have a decent case (since I can't find scum before post 13 of a game). I'm not going to vote without at least the latter <<
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Post Post #51 (isolation #6) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:05 am

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IT's a random vote, you don't need a case for that. I'm waiting for Gorrad to answer post 35 before I vote him.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #7) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:38 am

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Well, my vision of the bomb was that it was, well, a bomb. And that's a protown role.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #8) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:55 am

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my spy is still numbered though.

Well, setup speculation won't get us anywhere really.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #9) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:41 pm

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because people were voting me for not voting Gorrad.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #10) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:13 pm

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No, I'd suggest their vote would be better off on hiatus until we can see what the devil is that oh so mighty case Sajin has on Gorrad and vote accordingly.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #11) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:27 pm

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I'm not exactly flustered, nor am I scum <_<

This is a groundless accusation you are making.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #12) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:54 pm

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I've played in a game were someone got hammered before 48 hours had passed since the beginning. I'm not big on early wagons. Odds are I won't be voting before a few pages in (and 3 is not enough)
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Post Post #81 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:14 am

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I strongly agree with Ortolan about EB's last post.

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Bad cases full of speculation are scummy.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #14) » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:33 am

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If I may pronounce myself on this issue, it's not like there is currently all that much to scumhunt n. We have Gorrad and his very odd claim (which I still believe is scummy) and EB who's just getting progressively scummier. It's not scumhunting at this point, it's repeating the case over and over again. The real hunt begins after we have deaths, so I can udnerstand the setup speculating.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #15) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:20 am

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Gorrad wrote:my role claims NOTHING about face-offs or different ranks.
Same for mine, but the question is, why then would Charter include numbers in our PMs? Purely for flavour purpose?

Also, Gorrad, what number is the marchall in your set?
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Post Post #132 (isolation #16) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:22 am

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other question: Gorrad, does the spy has a number in your set?
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Post Post #134 (isolation #17) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:36 pm

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The back and forth between EB and Kast was pretty uninteresting and didnt provide practically anything in the way of scumhunting.

And its not setup speculation im doing here Synx, its trustworthiness investigating.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #18) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:33 pm

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why won<t you answer the spy question may I know?
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Post Post #143 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:20 am

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First I am not rolefishing, I am testing a claim.

@Gorrad: I'm analizing your posts and knowing if your set contains a numbered spy or not would be of help. I have good reasons to believe you are town anyways, but you being reticent to answer is noted.

Also, no use bandwagonning me, I'm town.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:25 am

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Also Ortolan, the reason for the question is simple.

I am asking him about the numbers in his set to test his earlier claim. His answer proves his innocence at 90%. Asking for the spy is just the extra 10%

You do understand why he's is almost completely confirmed, yes?
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Post Post #149 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:47 am

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then you prove you are scum ortolan, congratulations.

I am a town numbered unit. Gorrad claimed very early that his order was different than the order in this game. When asked, he said his Marshall is ranked 1, which is indeed opposite of the order in this game, proving he is also a numbered unit. Unless the mafia/town characters are arbitrarly chosen, he is town. The fact you miss something so obvious strongly hints you DON'T have a number, from there you are either bomb or flag. Oh look, roles that in general consensus, are mafia.

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Post Post #155 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:14 am

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If my conclusion are incorrect and you have proof to deny it, then it's fairly anti-town to refuse to help the town find the scum
Also, lack of subtlety Ortolan


It has been established by general consensus that it would be a fairly logical split, considering we aren't identified in the OP

There's a rather clear difference between "What's to say A, B and C aren't town?" and "A, B and C are town."

The only supposition I gave was that the bomb was usually a protown role. If you draw hasty conclusions from my posts because the syntax doesn't convey the message you wanna hear well enough then askfor clarifications.

Also, menaces of quick-hammer, Almaster?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:43 am

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I simply consider it strange that Charter would arbitrarely choose who is scum without a theme or idea behind it. I think it's a viable possibility, I'm not saying that has got to be it.

Minimally, spy and Marshall, like bomb and ...3 (only played the game in french, the one that can remove bombs) have very low odds of being of the same alignement. I find it more logical to have the army agaisnt the others.

It's not trying to fit in, I believe it too. Pretty sure I've seen quite a few players agree to the army/other split, just have to find them in the topic. I'll make you a list once I'm done.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:45 am

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charter wrote:Just to clarify, I'm using the high number wins, so 2 is the lowest and 10 is the highest.
This proves the spy doesn't have a number, on a sidenote.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:02 am

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Hmph, there are less than I thought.

Minimally there is Vaya, Almaster, Gorrad and me that agree with the army/split. I must have illusionned some more, my bad.

Still, barring the general consensus part, I still believe myself, surprisingly, so I'm still willing to lynch Orto
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Post Post #161 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:49 am

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I believe the mafia is not numbered, I don't know it.

All I really know is what I am and that I have a number.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:20 am

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because if he has a number he isn't spy, bomb or flag, the three roles I believe are the likely mafia.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:07 pm

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Claim coming, switching computer...
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Post Post #166 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:24 pm

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I am the Colonel - 8. I'm a vanilla townie.

That's really all there is to it. The pm is a single line if you exclude the confirming line.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:43 pm

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I doubt that counts as quoting my PM, but Charter will be the judge of that.
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Post Post #179 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:57 am

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he's voting Gorrad, mo?
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Post Post #181 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:36 am

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there is a slight difference here.

Yes, I'm vanilla. However, I have a specific role name, colonel - 8. Therefore, I could get CCed, which has yet to happen.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #33) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:11 am

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if the numbers did play a role I doubt I'd be vanilla at 8 <<
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Post Post #188 (isolation #34) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:43 pm

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Well, the moment we hit scum we'll have a better idea about if the split is army/other or arbitrary. In the meantime, I think we are better off leaving Gorrad alive.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:01 pm

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it's written a, like it's written "you are a cop" and not "the cop" in other games <<
Also, there are 12 roles, why would Charter exclude some?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #36) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:03 pm

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Currently you are in absolutely no position to say that DDD.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #37) » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:12 pm

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You have 7 posts, 5 of which don't even remotely bring something to the game. The other 2 are actual setup speculation.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #38) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:50 am

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However since our opinions on uselessness are clearly different, let's just forget this and return to the game.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #39) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:09 pm

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I still maintain the intended purpose wasn't rolefishing
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Post Post #218 (isolation #40) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:26 pm

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I don't want to be bled :(

rereading for case building.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #41) » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:59 pm

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I'm up for a Sajin lynch. His playstyle is quite different than what I saw last time he was town.

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Also, catching scum on post 13 is just ridiculous :P
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Post Post #255 (isolation #42) » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:02 am

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Well, in the beginning it wasn't that bad, but your posts have all turned into 1-liners with more or less sense in them. In our other games you pushed more, were being more theorical and less... "I still like my Gorrad vote"

You know, you were elaborating in RotM
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Post Post #266 (isolation #43) » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:34 pm

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what hoopla said, really.
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Post Post #273 (isolation #44) » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:30 pm

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I don't have ADD <_<
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Post Post #286 (isolation #45) » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:08 am

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While theorically that's nice and all, unless the wagon builds back on me your vote is not serving a purpose really.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #46) » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:05 pm

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agreed.

Anyways, with Weyouns voting me too my point is mostly null
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Post Post #292 (isolation #47) » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:13 am

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deadline is in 12 or 36 hours?
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Post Post #294 (isolation #48) » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:41 am

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allright, thank you Charter
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Post Post #319 (isolation #49) » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:52 am

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Yeah, at this point Almaster is not cleared. He knew he was suspicious, obviously he wouldn't be the one to do the kill.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #50) » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:52 am

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I find it interesting that you say "if I target scum", considering there was more than one kill during the night. Why would it not defuse a SK/Vig?
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Post Post #345 (isolation #51) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:09 pm

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what do you want to know exactly Almaster?
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Post Post #356 (isolation #52) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:24 am

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Vote: Almaster


Now now, let's not be overeager.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #53) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:33 am

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You're three votes away from the lynch.

Fos someone who said one post ago that L-3 isn't going to do anything you're quite contradictory.
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Post Post #365 (isolation #54) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:20 am

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If I could put an extra vote on you Almaster I would.

Odds are you are scum, especially if you share one of the dead's rank.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #55) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:11 pm

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Almaster says he has one of the roles that are dead. Most likely the flag was removed (since in the real game it's instant-win). Unless Charter duplicated roles in a completely arbitrary manner, the only role I can see well being duplicated is the spy. Two trackers on the town team would be pretty unlikely, wouldn't you say?
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Post Post #370 (isolation #56) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:34 pm

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I have no reason to believe otherwise.
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Post Post #377 (isolation #57) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:43 pm

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For one thing, it provides scum with fakeclaims, since according to you any role can be duplicated.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #58) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:29 pm

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you, for example?
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Post Post #383 (isolation #59) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:51 am

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and that's the hammer folks. Care to kill the suspense Synx?
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Post Post #401 (isolation #60) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:39 pm

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toldja I was innocent!

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