Mini 863 - Space Station Mafia: GAME OVER - EVERYONE'S DEAD

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Confirming!!!

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I suggest a healthy birthday bandwagon on Hoopla instead >:)

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Vote: Hoopla

for using a dice roll!

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Vote: Peabody.

This is not a random vote. He annoys me.

So do you actually think something he has done so far (by his one post) was scummy, or are you simply voting him because he annoys you??

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Vote: Messiah

for jumping on CoCo's post 64 without really adding anything or questioning it.

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Wait, CoCo can't jump on his own post! ^^

That question was directed at Sposh, not CoCo.

Here, look at this:

Why did you single me out when CooLDoG and CoCo did the exact same thing?

As for why I didn't add to or question CoCo's post; there's not really anything to add other than the fact that I agree. Why would I

question

a comment that I agree with?

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Oops!

Mod, can you fix my bold tags?

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Messiah, I said that you jumped on CoCo's post, then you said that I'm singling you out when Cooldog and CoCo did the same thing... but how can CoCo jump on his own post when he's the one

who first pointed out the phrase in question

?

CooLDoG's bandwagon also kind of bothers me, but the way that you took what CoCo was saying and just stated the obvious and then tacked on a vote at the end is kinda bothersome.

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I just did. The others are rhetorical or loaded.

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Unvote, Vote: Messiah

just in case!

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I really think Messiah is a good lynch for today! Thought it would be nice to see the encrypted information too.

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Because of his hypocrisy in voting me. The reasons he used were such a double-standard, I just think either he has to be scum

or

scum was on that wagon... I'm confident one of either CooLDoG or Messiah is scum!

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Because of his hypocrisy in voting me. The reasons he used were such a double-standard, I just think either he has to be scum or scum was on that wagon...

Please point out where I voted for you.

Sorry, not me... I meant milkshake. This is the post in question.

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hiphop, why are you voting charlatan?

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So, hiphop, you're still voting on a gut feeling eight pages in?

Unvote, Vote: hiphop

How about some more content behind that vote, hm?

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I'm getting tired of Sposh ignoring me, let's try bold.

@Sposh:

I have two questions I want you to answer. Ignoring me will not make me forget about them.

1.) You've accused my vote on milkshake of being a double-standard. How is that so?

2.) It's been two pages since you declared how great of a lynch I am. Has that changed? If so, why? If not, why are you not voting me?

1) I guess I got confused. Wow, I can't believe how confused I'm getting with just these two games. Your vote on milkshake was scummy, but it was not a double standard... the "double standard" confusion is going on in my other game at the moment, and I guess I got the both of them mixed up. Your vote on milkshake seemed like an attempt to slip in on the front end of a wagon before it got built up.

2) While I do find you to be a good lynch, something about how quickly your bandwagon built up bothers me, and while I may end up voting you anyway, I'd like to take a few steps back first and just observe.

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People voting Messiah:

What do you think of CooLDoG?

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The Messiah AND the Hiphop wagons have built up really fast... but I hate second guessing myself. Empking, can you tell me what actions specifically were performed by Peabody that effected the Messiah wagon?

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I'm going to do a re-read today sometime in between work and school, I'll let you know what I find!

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Whoooo yeah we got that scum! *dances*

The no kill is incredibly odd. Either we've got a town RB or a town Doc, I think. Question: would it be advisable for them to claim with their night action so we can automatically get rid of another scum?

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I don't see why my idea was so bad! I mean, sure, we'd have a townie roleblocker or doctor out in the open, but we'd also be down one more scum. Surely that's worth something, right?

In ANY case, I'm looking at the votes from yesterday:

hiphop (7): Sposh, Peabody, Hoopla, CooLDoG, charlatan, milkshake, AlmasterGM

AlmasterGM (2): NewAgeWarrior, Messiah
Peabody (1): hiphop

Not Voting (2): Coco, Empking

I'm thinking there's one scum on the hiphop wagon as a bussing attempt, and one scum out of CoCo/Emp/NAW/Messiah. I need to do a re-read. When I have time!

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Sorry for not posting a whole lot guys. Currently, I think the charlatan and alamaster back and forth is intriguing, and based on yesterday's wagon, I would think that either Alamaster or milkshake is scum because they were the last ones on the bandwagon!

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Sorry for not being around more guys... the new job is killing me.

I don't know what a commuter is I just didn't see why the mafia would have not shot anyone if they could have especially when they lost someone day one!

I will

Vote: Alamaster

because he voted me without even thinking about it or explaining it. It just seemed like a way to get the attention off of himself and onto me.

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Whoa! Hoopla's 396 is just horrible! I'd like to wait for her to respond.
Sorry for not being active guys, I was at the beach for a few days.

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I had a gut reaction to agree with Empking about Hoopla's derailing of the wagon... but I don't like how Hoop/CD are seemingly buddying up to defend one another, it doesn't make any sense! I also don't see why Alamaster has been forgotten about - as soon as he was in the spotlight, he went silent, and discussion moved on past him.

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I was also the first one to vote for hiphop, and I stayed on his vote and pushed for it.

Hey guys, sorry for the lurk. Just did a re-read and am currently going to

Confirm Vote: Sposh.

There are 9 reasons for this.

1) hiphop said a lot of things and talked to and about a lot of people. There is one person, however, he avoided talking to and about - Sposh. He only responds Sposh twice, and both posts about extremely trivial matters, almost as if the conversation was forced.

I cannot help what hiphop does. How is that my fault??

2) hiphop passively defended Sposh.

What does Sposh have to do with anything?

Why did you vote for Sposh?

See above.

3) Play at the beginning was odd and extremely coincidental. It's more likely than not that the 2nd post was fabricated.

I suggest a healthy birthday bandwagon on Hoopla instead >

Vote: Hoopla for using a dice roll!

I think I said that, not hiphop.

4) Obsessed with Messiah lynch. Gives no reason except he "jumped on CoCo's post."

I really think Messiah is a good lynch for today! Thought it would be nice to see the encrypted information too.

I SAID THAT...NOT HIPHOP!! And I don't think I was obsessed with it.

5) Over-the-top reaction to D1 lynch result.

Whoooo yeah we got that scum! *dances*

Do you even know who you're targeting? I said that. And yes, I was happy and somewhat shocked that we actually got a bad guy on day one, since that really never happens from what I've seen!

6) Rolefishes.

The no kill is incredibly odd. Either we've got a town RB or a town Doc, I think. Question: would it be advisable for them to claim with their night action so we can automatically get rid of another scum?

That isn't rolefishing... I asked if it would be advisable because this is only my second game playing Mafia and I didn't know if it'd be bad.

7) Noob card.

I don't see why my idea was so bad! I mean, sure, we'd have a townie roleblocker or doctor out in the open, but we'd also be down one more scum. Surely that's worth something, right?

God, apparently I'm not even allowed to ask questions in order to understand the game better!

8) Votes for me based on something that I've been doing for the entire game because it suddenly affects him.

I will Vote: Alamaster because he voted me without even thinking about it or explaining it. It just seemed like a way to get the attention off of himself and onto me.

But not when the pressure was on you.

9) His entire posting attitude doesn't add up. His profile says he's 20 years old, but he uses exclamation points like a small child who just got candy for Halloween. It seems as though he is forcing this happy-go-lucky feel. I don't like it.

Well, if you don't like my exlamations points, then how about this?
Fuck you!
Because I type like this all the time, and I'm a happy person in real life. Sorry I'm not so super duper serial about mafia like you.

One thing I realize, however, is that I currently have zero town cred and am at L-2. I'm going to claim vanilla town. If you don't buy it, I don't really mind dying - just remember my case on D3 when the intent behind it is verified as authentic.

That's a safe claim... and why do you suspect CoCo?

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More votes on Sposh, please. His responses to my case are awful.

Care to back this up with facts?

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More votes on Sposh, please. His responses to my case are awful.

Care to back this up with facts?

Sure.

Fact #1: Half of your answers are completely non-responsive.
Fact #2: The other half are terrible. They are either a) scumtells in and of themselves, or b) terribad.

Satisfied?

No.

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We shouldn't be lynching me, but I might have to replace out of this game, I'm already in two other ones and I didn't know how demanding it'd be with this game and my new work schedule! 35 hours a week, plus 18 hours of class. It kinda kills me =(

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Why do you want Empking votes, Hoopla?

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Al: Give us two responses from Sposh to your case and tell us why they're scummy.

Here, you can have lots of responses.

I cannot help what hiphop does. How is that my fault??

Appeal to ignore relevant facts.

I don't see how I can be getting suspicion for something hiphop does... especially when it's the mafia's job to create confusion and suspicion on the wrong people!

I SAID THAT...NOT HIPHOP!! And I don't think I was obsessed with it.

1) Nonresponsive, 2) no warrant.

What do you mean no warrant?

Do you even know who you're targeting? I said that. And yes, I was happy and somewhat shocked that we actually got a bad guy on day one, since that really never happens from what I've seen!

This response just supercharges the original argument … he gets overexcited about everything.

How is that overexcited??

That isn't rolefishing... I asked if it would be advisable because this is only my second game playing Mafia and I didn't know if it'd be bad.

1) Yes it is, 2) newb card.

So am I really not allowed to ask an honest question without getting blamed for it?

God, apparently I'm not even allowed to ask questions in order to understand the game better!

Asking scummy questions is scummy.

See above.

But not when the pressure was on you.

Nonresponsive and nonsensical?

Kay.

Well, if you don't like my exlamations points, then how about this?
Fuck you!
Because I type like this all the time, and I'm a happy person in real life. Sorry I'm not so super duper serial about mafia like you.

This just magnifies my previous argument by 1000x … talk about getting super-duper-serial and overly defensive.

Overly defensive? Try not attacking me personally next time, asshole.

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I'm really torn between Empking and CooLDoG.

@Empking: Why should I vote for CooLDoG in less than 15 words?
@CooLDoG: Why should I vote for Empking in less than 15 words?

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I'll try to answer all the questions!

I'm not sure what the scummiest thing I did the whole game is. I think I tend to be a little too "under the radar" when I play which is what people have said about me before. I don't tend to bring up new suspects unless I have a really strong suspicion. I just look at what has been said about players and analyze THAT... so if that's scummy, then that's my answer!

Howard, I think I'm being made into an easy target due to my low level of activity and inexperience at this game. So I do think if my wagon continues, there is bound to be scum on it. I wouldn't be surprised if there already was scum on it!

I think the best lynch for today is Messiah.

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I meant, I'm torn between which one of them is scum. I still think one of CD/Emp is scum... but my feelings towards Messiah from yesterday still stand.

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Is the day over??

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Unvote for now

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Vote: CooLDoG

It can't hurt to keep my vote there while I look at people who were NOT on the hiphop wagon! Though, to be fair, I think it became pretty obvious nobody was going to jump onto the AGM or Peabody wagon yesterday, so being on the hiphop wagon near the end of it really isn't THAT much of a saving grace... especially when you play like CD does

That being said, I need to look over NAW and Looker's stuff, as well as Messiah's. It wouldn't be a huge stretch to think that the entire hiphop wagon was townie, but I dunno.

The good thing is, even though we're all kinda taking shots in the dark here, we hit the bad guys on D1 and got a no kill on N1, so we have wiggle room