Mini 886 - Popcorn Mafia - Game over!

[HackerHuck]

Perhaps stating that Xylthixlm

appears

to have been accepted as town would make it clearer

I still think that's not an appropriate statement. Just because someone isn't in most peoples' top 3 list doesn't mean they've been accepted as town.

I don't really get why you think we should be moved by your teasing of some "gold-nugget" reveal. Maybe if most people thought you were town, but even then I don't see how your yet-to-be-given opinion merits any thought.

Alamaster does seem a little edgy in his replies.

[Yosarian2]

@Xylthixlm: I understand that you feel that Yosarian2 is town here, but defending him doesn't help him look any better nor me to develop my read.

<------ Scummy comment.

It's also pretty absurd for to claim I was "noncomittal" about Bogre, considering just how much time I spent commenting on his play.

I'll handle this sentence in reverse order. Commenting does not show commitment, I know you know this. Look at your iso 3, 6, and 22. You finally make a commitment in 24 (one post which will become important after my gold nugget reveal).

I commented that he was wrong and that I wasn't sure if it was an alignment tell or not. I then spent my next 4 posts questioning him (or, in one case, quesitoning Ort's read on him) in order to try and find out his alignment.

You still have yet to explain why any of that is scummy. Do you really think it's bad for pro-town people to start out unsure about who is scum and then to try to figure it out through questions, debates, and reactions? You do realize that that's, like, the entire point of the game, right?

[Xylthixlm]

Perhaps stating that Xylthixlm

appears

to have been accepted as town would make it clearer

I still think that's not an appropriate statement. Just because someone isn't in most peoples' top 3 list doesn't mean they've been accepted as town.

I question why you are questioning whether my townieness is questioned.

[DragonsofSummer]

My top suspect after reread is Ortolan.

He has been attacking people for crappy reasons all game, and his posts lack any real scum hunting thought imo.

Number 2 would be Almaster after some of his comments today.

[ortolan]

wow dos and hackerhuck and Almaster are all sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo obviously scum together. Sarag decided not to go down the same path as the rest of the scum, but I'm on to her too, much to her chagrin.

[ortolan]

DoS dude that seriously won't work against me. I'm still going to blow you away in a heartbeat despite that horrible attempt at WIFOM

[HackerHuck]

Perhaps stating that Xylthixlm

appears

to have been accepted as town would make it clearer

I still think that's not an appropriate statement. Just because someone isn't in most peoples' top 3 list doesn't mean they've been accepted as town.

I question why you are questioning whether my townieness is questioned.

I tend to find it suspicious when people make blanket statements about what "the town" thinks, especially when those statements aren't supported.

@Ortolan - mindlessly repeating something over and over again might make you believe it to be true, but it doesn't actually make it true.

[AlmasterGM]

wow dos and hackerhuck and Almaster are all sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo obviously scum together. Sarag decided not to go down the same path as the rest of the scum, but I'm on to her too, much to her chagrin.

Could you please elaborate?

[HowardRoark]

ortolan -> HackerHuck
HackerHuck -> ortolan
Sarag -> HackerHuck
AlmasterGM -> HowardRoark
DragonsofSummer -> ortolan
Yosarian2 ???
rewq455 ???
Slicey -> Sarag or rewq455 (pick one please)
Xylthixlm -> ortolan or rewq455 or Sarag (pick one please)

I want a one player commitment from each of you. Announcement coming soon.

[Bogre]

Oh, goodie, announcements, I can't wait!

*rubs his hands in eagerness*

DoS: What about Almaster's comments strike you as scummy?

[Xylthixlm]

Xylthixlm -> ortolan or rewq455 or Sarag (pick one please)

No.

[HackerHuck]

Why is HowardRoark calling the shots instead of Bogre?

[Xylthixlm]

Why is HowardRoark calling the shots instead of Bogre?

I dunno.

I could repeat all that stuff I said to Vala?

[HowardRoark]

@Xylthixlm: Noted.

@HackerHuck: How did you feel about Xylthixlm guiding Vala Mal Doran?

[HackerHuck]

@HackerHuck: How did you feel about Xylthixlm guiding Vala Mal Doran?

I don't recall anyone really trying to lead the town around yesterday. What in particular would you like me to comment on?

[rewq455]

Oh, goodie, announcements, I can't wait!

*rubs his hands in eagerness*

DoS: What about Almaster's comments strike you as scummy?

You should be telling people what to do and holding stuff back, not HR.

[rewq455]

I think Ort. is scum. If I had to pick one person to shoot right now, it would be him.

[Bogre]

Oh, goodie, announcements, I can't wait!

*rubs his hands in eagerness*

DoS: What about Almaster's comments strike you as scummy?

You should be telling people what to do and holding stuff back, not HR.

I do believe this is what I'm doing.

[DragonsofSummer]

DoS: What about Almaster's comments strike you as scummy?

I find some of them to be wishy washy to an extent, as well as overly defensive given the amount of pressure he is under. Also I really don't like the omgus on HR.

[HowardRoark]

@mod: please prod Slicey and Sarag

last posts: DEC 16


Sarag -> HackerHuck
ortolan -> HackerHuck
HackerHuck -> ortolan
AlmasterGM -> HowardRoark
DragonsofSummer -> ortolan
rewq455 -> ortolan
Xylthixlm -> ortolan or rewq455 or Sarag (refused to pick one)
Yosarian2 ??? (ignored request)
Slicey -> Sarag or rewq455 (has not posted)

@Bogre: I'd like to hear from Slicey first, but if you want it now just say so.

[Yosarian2]

Yeah, Bogre, it would be better for the town if you would kind of take charge here, put pressure on people, get people to respond, find out what people think about other people, ect. If there's one thing I learned about kingmaker games, it's that the king need to take charge.

[Xylthixlm]

The gunbearer should be active.

Gunbearer, nobody is in a better position to help the town than you are. Keep involved in the game, as involved as anyone else - because

you

are the person who has to make a decision, and if you're not involved you're going to make a bad decision. If the game seems to be slowing down,

you

should be the one getting it moving again. If you don't have anything else to say,

ask questions

. Don't count on anyone else to ask them for you. Nobody else knows what questions you want answered! But whatever you do, don't slack off and just wait for other people to talk. If you aren't talking, you're not thinking about what to say, and if you're not thinking about what to say you're not really thinking about the game, and if you're not really thinking about the game... well, that one's obvious.

[Yosarian2]

(nods) Yes.

In a kingmaker game, which this basically is, the king has the final call, which means the king has to be active. He's the one who has to pressure people, he's the one who has to question people, he has to keep the game moving.

[Bogre]

@Bogre: I'd like to hear from Slicey first, but if you want it now just say so.

Nope. My 'eager' excitement was really wanting to know what you had to say.

Secondly, waiting on me to 'lead' the town is taking a pretty relaxed stance. Only by taking active efforts and doing good things will I know to differentiate you from the scum.

So here's some questions to get you guys going.

1.) Why do you feel I was tunneling on Rite/Huck? Was this deserved?

2)If you had one failing as a scumhunter in this game, what would it be?

3)Who has been the most effective/least effecting in scumhunting?

4) Who is the most/least protown? Why are you protown? What have you done anti-town?

[Yosarian2]

So here's some questions to get you guys going.

1.) Why do you feel I was tunneling on Rite/Huck? Was this deserved?

Well, like I said yesterday, I kind of think you attacked rite for a bad reason, and then when that was pointed out, you just kept attacking him, so yeah, I think you were tunneling on him.

2)If you had one failing as a scumhunter in this game, what would it be?

Well, I can't really answer a question like that until I know which of my suspects I was right about. I was wrong about you being scum, clearly; perhaps I tend to focus overly much on people who seem unwilling to defend or explain themselves. I don't know.

3)Who has been the most effective/least effecting in scumhunting?

Again, I'm not sure if you can really answer that question until we know who was right and who was wrong. I think Xyl's scumhunting has been effective at getting reactions and creating info. Least effective...hmm, let me see who hasn't done much scumhunting yet.

Almaster hasn't, really, although he just replaced in.

Dragon of Summer has been here all game, and he hasn't done much scumhunting of his own either; about the most he did was follow me and Xyl .

4) Who is the most/least protown? Why are you protown? What have you done anti-town?

Now that I've noticed how little DOS has done this game, I'm going to have to consider him anti-town. I think Xyl's behavior has been very pro-town, with the degree to which he's been active, scumhunting, and trying to get the town moving.

I can't really think of anything I've done that's anti-town.