Mini 886 - Popcorn Mafia - Game over!

[Maemuki]

Oh hai guys! I'll read when I'm on the hotel. Bye!

[Maemuki]

This thread needs moar Bogre, but confirmed townies always talk less then what they should.

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I only read the game up to one of it's early pages, so please bear with me if my opinions are outdated!

Not really. Keeping stuff to yourself for a while is okay, but I'd advise letting people know who you're planning to kill ahead of time, rather than just suddenly shooting. The last-minute flurry of activity is very informative.

QFT. Sarag's statement strikes me as weird - and her followup as well. It's like "i meant to say that", even though it doesn't seem like it...setting up the first gunbearer to mishoot, anyone?

Yeah, it would be lame if Vala died. Both scum and town should wish to avoid being shot, Bogre.

...stop agreeing with people!

Way to go, Sarag. Two pages into this thing and I already suspect you. Also why are you always agreeing with Xyl?

Same to rit - ohwaithereplacedoutnevermind

Can you imagine an answer to this question that somebody wouldn't have jumped on?

QFT. Page 2, people! It's not like he could make a magical awesome answer. This was mostly a mistake on Vala's part, unfortunately. Sure, she might have thought that he was scummy, but that question is hard to answer on Page 2 - and even Day 1.

...I..am not sure about Xyl. He doesn't act like this as town...sure, he makes cases like "^ scum" as town - but not automatic "defend him and you're scum" before flips, like he did here.

More later.

[Maemuki]

Then you're either stupid or scum. Or both.

Xyl, is leading the town generally a good move?

You mean "I haven't seen him act like this as town before".

Uhm, no. How am I supposed to know if you are town or scum? You're acting weirdly in my opinion, but I'm not sure if that's a scumtell or a nulltell. Time will tell, I suppose.

[Maemuki]

...that's a good point, actually.

Oh, and by the way, maybe I could have worded that a bit better. And yes, that statement cannot be true if you're town, but you're still acting strangely. Maybe I could have took out the "as town" part. But my point stands - why were you judging connections between players before flips?

[Maemuki]

If I'm not mistaken, you did...

Possible Sarag-Bogre buddy tell there.

Oh and ortolan asked you this:

wait how is Bogre scummy ITT, and how are we scummy by proxy for defending him; when he clearly acts like this every game. Do you disagree?

Yeahh. Why didn't you answer?

[Maemuki]

@Maemuki: Have you finished the complete read yet?

Nope! I'll do it on Monday though - it's impossible for me to work on a laptop.

[Maemuki]

None of that is a scumtell.

Why...did you just answer a question that was not directed to you? And why didn't Xyl answer it?

[Maemuki]

I answered it implicitly. Leading the town is neither a good move nor a bad move, because it's not a move at all.

Dear Xyl,

please answer my questions like if I was really really dumb. Implicitness isn't going to work with me so please be direct.

Love,
Mae

PS: That still doesn't answer why Yos decided to answer that question.

[Maemuki]

Dear Xyl,

maybe when I finish my catch-up post. Aka on Monday like I said some posts ago. kthx. And I'm still waiting for Yos.

Love,
Mae

[Maemuki]

QFT!

Also this thread needs more bogre.

No, this thread needs more you! Seriously, where the heck have you been, why aren't you scumhunting by the way?

[Maemuki]

This thread needs more:

a. DoS,
b. Yosarian2
c. Bogre

Now.

I played a game with her awhile back and she played this same game as scum (e.g., post but not scumhunt at all / lurk). I'd be interested to know if this fits her town meta as well.

Hey, it's not like you were Mr. I-can-scumhunt-and-be-active on that game either. And actually it kind of does, just ask Xyl! And I'm waiting for Yos2 to answer my question.

Aaaahm, Sarag? Why are you throwing random accusations on Xyl, if you had a town read on him earlier?

[Maemuki]

Sarag, do you really want a dead-weight gunbearer? Do you really really want DoS to be the gunbearer? Don't think so. shooting scummy people > shooting lurkish people

More later when I can be bothered to read walls of text.

[Maemuki]

Interesting; you believe DOS is town, then? Any specific reason for that?

Mmmm, no. I see why you thought that I thought that he was town (best sentence ever), but that's not the case. I'm just afraid of the possibility of DoS being town. Remember, not everyone can get a scum PM.

So, your plan is to never shoot lurkers, to tell the scum that we won't ever shoot lurkers, and hope the scum decide never to take advantage of that?

Not really. Shoot scummy lurkers sure, but imagine they're town. Do you want a dead-weight gunbearer? But we shouldn't shoot someone just because they're lurking over somebody that we're more sure that is scum. ...did you understand?

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions.

What questions?

[Maemuki]

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Whoa you had a lot of time to waste.

[Maemuki]

Whoa Nacho and Xyl agree on something!

...I guess you're both right. Today's "Maemuki Corrects Herself" Day, I guess.

Either way, I think we should shoot Sarag, but I can't quite put my finger on it. I'll try tomorrow, I'm tired today. And sleepy.

[Maemuki]

Well that sucked.

Glad we agree on something. I wonder if we can get a replacement for DoS.

[Maemuki]

This post is pretty interesting given who was selected as gunbearer.

It's also interesting when you think that scum chose the gun-bearer and you're doing what's the equivalent of NK speculation on a normal game. But you're doing gunbearer speculation instead.

[Maemuki]

lolwhat no posts in 24 hours.

Anyway I would like for Sarag, HackerHuck or Howard. Any of them are good.

[Maemuki]

@Maemuki: Top three suspects.

Mmm I just gave them. Way to ignore me!

[Maemuki]

@ Sarag,

I thought rite was town

Haha - oh wait you're serious. Yeeeeeaaaaah, why?

She's playing like it's early game but it really isn't anymore.

Nooooo D3 isn't early game I never knew that. Pointing fingers without reasoning is bad.

Why do you think this post is interesting?

Even I can see that - and my vision is not that good. I said that we probrably shouldn't shoot DoS over a person, and guess who became the gunbearer?

I am believing an Sarag/AlmasterGM scumteam now. She looks like "Hey, just look! There are scummier people than my buddy *attackattackattack*"

Sorry if this seems OMGUS. It isn't.

More tomorrow when I don't have to worry about an exam.

[Maemuki]

@Maemuki: I literally have no read on you; right now, you're looking like a damn good shot. Could you convince me why DoS shouldn't shoot you, or at least post once every 2 days so I can feel a little better about your slot?

*nods* I will. Sorry about that, Spanish is ruining my life. >.<

And AlmasterGM attacking who Sarag was attacking the most seems awfully convinient to me. I need to see if they even interacted

at all

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Maemukei

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[Maemuki]

Rereading Zakeri I actually quite like his play. He was lurky, but his posts were good when they were made. I find it easy to follow his thought processes. I also liked Almaster's pressuring of Howard, and his other posts. For some reason I wasn't noticing him much and thinking of him as a lurker almost as bad as DoS but reading his posts, they're actually decent. Not amazing, but I see nothing damning there.

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Hmm, actually after reading HackerHuck's 689 I agree that AlmasterGM's turnaround on me does seem pretty scummy. Like he thought "hey - easy target!" (or "hey I'm going to help my scumbuddy push this case") and then when no one cared, he let it go. Some town points to HackerHuck for this find actually.

!!! Wait, is this "Hey my scumbuddy slipped up and now somebody noticed it! Quick! Call HH town 'cause he did that!"

Also Almaster said that Sarag was probrably scum. Then we get to D3, where did that suspicion go to?

[Maemuki]

If it were such a slip, how come you didn't notice it?

...it's not a damn slip if there's not a freaking flip! What, do you think that I can see everyone's role PM's before they flip? Give me a break.

[Maemuki]

Maemuki, it's incredibly hard to make sense of what you write when you have a bunch of quotes and don't include the authors in the quote tags. Stop it.

k. Both are Sarag's.

Hi Hacker! Defending scum, aren't we?

Can we shoot this guy now?

[Maemuki]

If it isn't obvious, this guy means HH. I just reread the post and it didn't make much sense. Sorry. >.<

[Maemuki]

17 - Suspects Sarag, HH, and HR. Gives NO reasons for any of them.

*whistles* More reasons to shoot HH!

...it's not a damn slip if there's not a freaking flip! What, do you think that I can see everyone's role PM's before they flip? Give me a break.

Any answers to this, or were you looking for a shitty reason to justify your read on me~?

[Maemuki]

Right now I'm leaning towards HowardRoark + HackerHuck as the last two scum, mostly by process of elimination.

I took the same conclusion, mostly because of this post:

17 - Suspects Sarag, HH, and HR. Gives NO reasons for any of them.

I don't see scum going out of their way to suspect a person that gave no reads on a town person. I do see scum going out of their way to chainsaw defend their scumbuddies.

[Maemuki]

Let's see what dead scum had to say about HackerHuck.

Does that mean we can shoot him now? We'll see about HR when HH has flipped.

You want to suspect me, fine. But Howard is about 95% likely to be scum here.

Hey, Yos, in your opinion should or shouldn't we shoot HH?

Also, just notice how HH was attacking me for attacking Sarag on the beginning of Day 4. Now, he completely forgot about it and

refuses to talk about it

. Let me say this again:

Can we shoot this guy now?

[Maemuki]

Also, just notice how HH was attacking me for attacking Sarag on the beginning of Day 4. Now, he completely forgot about it and

refuses to talk about it

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What are you talking about?

If it were such a slip, how come you didn't notice it?

I answer it, you ignore it.

[Maemuki]

Eeeeh, HH, no point on discussing whether Almaster or Sarag are scum, they're dead, and they're scum!

Since you believe that I'm scum, I'm curious how you reconcile it with this post of Sarag's. Up until that post she had spent my entire time in-game calling me out as scum. I noticed Alamaster's odd turnaround on Sarag, so she decides that I'm not as scummy, but now Alamaster is. If I'm scum, why would she just move from one scum to another?

HH, meet this magical concept known as...

bussing.

You were the one who called it out as a slip when you read Sarag's post. My question was why you didn't identify it as a slip earlier. If anything, you ignored my question with a non-answer.

I didn't because I didn't pay attention.

I repeat DoS, please shoot this guy.

[Maemuki]

"your overconfidence is your weakness"
"your faith in your friends is yours"

QFT.

Ok, since HH is town now, we have two choices: Yos and HR. I'm happy with either of those.

[Maemuki]

Hey, Yos, some people say that you're scum, but they're not delusional to you, are they?

And I like my opinions, tyvm. If you disagree with them, k, but please don't attack me just because I disagree with you.

Because that post just looks like OMGUS. <3!

[Maemuki]

I lurked because, you know, I had to set up my open game and stuff. Sorry about that. >.<'

[Maemuki]

OK, you had a recent reason to not post. Xyl's probably one of the townies here, so tell me why he's wrong about you.

I don't think that I can defend myself from the mighty process of elimination.

[Maemuki]

...ok, Yos, sorry I was lying. You're not my top pick. I was a...bit...*coughalotcough* clouded by OMGUS. Sorry, I have to stop doing that. Anyway. I would be happy with a HR shot. Since I'm probrably going to be shot today - I'm going to have to ask you something. Who is most likely HR's scumbuddy?

Ohh, Nacho. His turnaround on Xyl made me raise my eyebrow...but his attacks on Sarag and Almaster made me lower it. I....do not know what to make of that.

More when I get home. HH, please don't shoot until then.

[Maemuki]

Mod, please prod Nacho, Xyl and ortolan

. I think that's all.

Sorry, I forgot about a project that needed to be handed in today (besides I guess that it's the "Rememeber about Maemuki" time of the month). I'll post in...10 hours?

Love,
Mae

[Maemuki]

FRESH NEW BLOOD! Finally, we needed something like that.

The more I read Nacho, the less I'm sure about him...

Ortolan is not looking that well now, too...

I'll wait for Llama before I give a read on him.

[Maemuki]

I can't defend myself from things that Slicey made, orto.

Oh hai DGB

Yos2, k. Why?

[Maemuki]

Dear players,

I will post tomorrow. When I don't have to study for two tests at the same time.

Love,
Mae

[Maemuki]

Ooooh, Nacho's flip is veeeeery interesting~

Llama and Nacho attacked each other as soon as they entered the game...mmmmm.

Llama. What do you think about HR? Besides, he attacked me with...

[quote=Llama][/quote]

Yup.

*waits for Llama*

[Maemuki]

Ok, I'll have to go with Yos's reasoning here.

Besides, HR's case sucks. It's like he's hunting for things that aren't there...which means that he's scum. Shoot him, HH.

[Maemuki]

What exactly am I to be defending against?

Lots of stuff - see Yos in ISO.

[Maemuki]

HH? Why isn't HR dead?