Mafia 108 - Mafia With The Quickness - over!

[SaintKerrigan]

*is lonely*

[Maemuki]

*is lonely*

I would hug you but I'm not in love with you anymore.

Anyway, Yos isn't scummy 'cause he did not make a scummy action, same for Zach.

Also gut.

[SaintKerrigan]

*is sad because nobody loves him* (Obvious Appeal to Emotion)

Fair enough. May I ask who you think is scummier at the moment, Bogre or me?

I think there's not much more to be gotten out of this day...I'll hammer in a while unless someone beats me to it.

[Haylen]

*cuddles SK*

I love you, just not in the same way as my bf.

I've explained why i dont think Zach is scum.

[Maemuki]

*is sad because nobody loves him* (Obvious Appeal to Emotion)

*gives plushie*Actually no, I love my plushie collection too much. *takes plushie away*

Fair enough. May I ask who you think is scummier at the moment, Bogre or me?

you're both on the same level imo.

[SaintKerrigan]

Aw, thanks Hayl. Love ya too (not in the same way as your bf though).

Aw, thanks Mae--hey! *is sad again*

I was hoping more people would be on for talking (not that I don't appreciate you guys, Hayl and Mae and Yos). Oh well.

Unvote: Zachrulez. Vote: Bogre.

Day's over, folks. Time to hope we got a scum.

[Maemuki]

I love it when I get another suspect~

Well...I wonder if Incog's on~

[Yosarian2]

I'm not voting Bogre at the moment because:

A: My vote hammers him, and I want some discussion first.
B: You are currently making me feel uneasy, and if you're scum, I doubt Bogre is your partner.

That's fine. But I'm not talking about you VOTING Bogre.

What I find odd is that you never really seemed to be attacking or pressuring Bogre for most of today, even though you claim he was your number #1 suspect. Like, I'm not voting for you right now, but I'm certanly attacking you.

I never got the vibe from any of your day 3 posts that you were attacking Bogre, or threatening him, or pressuring him, except for that one weak attack that you quickly followed by voting someone else. I'm just having trouble matching up your claimed suspicion of Bogre with your actions or posts so far today.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was just making, which was about the low probability of there being two competing scum wagons; if scum decide to bus, then that also generally means there won't be two competing scum wagons.

(sigh)

My

point was that we're arguing different points of view on what scum will and won't do. I feel that arguing as such is fruitless.

(shrug) You were the one asking me to explain my thoughts about Zach, so I'm trying to.

Yup. Based on voting patterns, I was sure that either Neto or Elli had to be scum. And I was correct; not sure why you're trying to talk down 'voting patterns', considering how well that method of scumhunting worked. It really wasn't based on Neto's actions; I didn't think his actions were that scummy, actually, other then his claim, but based on how day 1 turned out, and based on how people were voting at different times, there just weren't that many possible scenarios where he wasn't scum.

If you read that whole post, how many possible scenarios I had with him as scum vs. with him as town, I think it would have been clear that I was really leaning towards lynching Neto, both because of the high chance of him being scum and in order to gather information; there really weren't many possible scumgroups that didn't include Neto.

So why didn't you vote for him, then? Actually, I have an idea. (See below.)

He was already at lynch -2, and we were less then 24 hours into the day at the time. I wasn't interested in rushing the day that much.

Because if you and Zach are scum (and assuming there's only a 3-man scum team), Bogre must be innocent.

But you haven't actually made a case against me yet. Or even against Zach.

Why, exactally, do you think Zach is scum?

Also, I think you were defending Bogre from GLork here:

Also, how is trying to put Bogre at L-1 (which he isn't at, by the way) and forcing him to claim any different from my "rolefishing" earlier? Come to think of it, you've already got a claim out of me. Now you're trying to get a claim out of someone else? This is making me feel uneasy about you. I guess I'll have to ISO you, in addition to Bogre.

This isn't me defending Bogre. This is me asking Glork how what he is doing isn't considered "rolefishing," which I've been accused (by him and other people) of doing. I think you're stretching a bit here.

Bandwagoning someone to a claim is not rolefishing, it's what you do when you suspect someone. Openly demanding that someone claim isn't rolefishing either.

Rolefishing is when you sublty try to find out someone role, try to trick someone into giving info that will let you figure out their role. Like, when you ask Haylen a question like "Why is it you don't want to claim?"; it sounds like you're trying to find out if she dosn't want to claim because she has a power role.

Anyway, what's going on here is that Glork attacks Bogre, and in response, you basically try to prevent Bogre from getting to lynch -1, try to prevent him from having to claim, and threaten to attack Glork for wagoning Bogre. It's hard to read that in any way other then as a defense of Bogre.

[Incognito]

Haylen (1) <-~ Maemuki

*Bogre (5) <-~ Yosarian2, Haylen, Glork, Ellibereth, SaintKerrigan

SaintKerrigan (2) <-~ Zachrulez, Bogre

With 8 alive, 5 votes will do it.

Note:

an asterisk by a player's name indicates said player would be lynched if Day were to end right this moment without a lynch majority.

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Bogre,

Townie

, lynched Day 3

It is now Night 3. Please have any and all Night actions in to me within 48 hours of this post. Day 4 will begin on Wednesday, January 20th at about 4 P.M. EST.

[Yosarian2]

And, the day was already over before I said that, lol.

Anyway, in case I die before tomorrow; if Bogre flips scum, lynch SaintK. If Bogre flips town; actually, I'm really having trouble coming up with any likely scum pairs if Bogre flips town, but look at people in the group of (Zach, SaintK, Mae, possibly Haylen although I think she's town), and some of those pairs obviously don't make sense, so use your judgment. I'm no longer suspicious of Eli.

[Incognito]

Let's speeeeeeeeeeed into Day 4.

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Glork,

Townie

, killed Night 3

It is now Day 4. With 6 alive, 4 votes will do it. Your D4 deadline is set for Sunday, January 24th at 4 P.M. EST. If anyone has a problem with a weekend deadline, please let me know, and I'll shift it over to Monday instead. Thanks.

[Maemuki]

Hai guys.

Anyone made a night reread? I didn't.

[Haylen]

For goodness sake. Argh!

Anyway. I made a bit of a reread and instinct told me Glork was scum. My instinct is aweful.

Anyone want to claim scum?

[Maemuki]

For goodness sake. Argh!

Anyway. I made a bit of a reread and instinct told me Glork was scum. My instinct is aweful.

Eeeeh, Glork was obv-town.

Is anybody against a SK lynch today?

[Haylen]

If we mislynch today, and 2 townies are killed during the night, it'll be game over.

[SaintKerrigan]

For goodness sake. Argh!

Anyway. I made a bit of a reread and instinct told me Glork was scum. My instinct is aweful.

Eeeeh, Glork was obv-town.

Is anybody against a SK lynch today?

Same on Glork, except I wouldn't have said obv-town.

I'm against an SK lynch.

Mae, what happened to your burning suspicion of Haylen? Why do you want to lynch me?

[Maemuki]

If we mislynch today, and 2 townies are killed during the night, it'll be game over.

Good point - but I was wondering why the hell did N2 have two kills if N1 and N3 had only one...gah, pointless setup speculation isn't going to lynch scum.

Anyway, there's not much we can do without the rest of the players.

[Haylen]

Hell, if we mislynch today and there's one kill tomorrow, it'll be game over.

I think no lynch is the best option.

[SaintKerrigan]

By the way, I'm confident now that at least one scum was on the Neto wagon (unless it's a Yos/Mae scumteam). Reason being: I know I'm town, and everyone alive except for Yos and Mae was voting for Neto.

[Ellibereth]

Neto, Kerri, Bogre

Neto, Kerri, Zach

Neto, Bogre, Zach

Neto, Zach, Yos

Zach has to be scum.

pseudovote: Zach

Will reread thread one more time later, prepared to vote for him.

[SaintKerrigan]

I would also dig a Zach vote.

[Maemuki]

I'm still not a big fan of SK's "i don't trust the bogre wagon but I'll hammer anyway"

Sure there was the deadline, but why the hell did you vote for a wagon that you didn't believe in?

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Mae: Where did you pick up the idea that I didn't trust the Bogre wagon? If I didn't think Bogre had a shot at being scum I wouldn't have hammered.

Also, please answer my questions posed earlier.

[Maemuki]

@ Mae: Where did you pick up the idea that I didn't trust the Bogre wagon? If I didn't think Bogre had a shot at being scum I wouldn't have hammered.

Also, please answer my questions posed earlier.

What questions?

By the way, I don't believe you actually liked the Bogre wagon~ did you ever make a case against him?

[SaintKerrigan]

Mae, what happened to your burning suspicion of Haylen? Why do you want to lynch me?

I would've preferred a Zach wagon, sure, but I was also willing to lynch Bogre.