Pick Your Power II - Looks like the wine is gone (SCUM WIN)

[dramonic]

she-bang!

[dramonic]

Do we have any reason to believe scum had the possibility to actually communicate legally before sending their draft/role?

[dramonic]

Glad to see basically nothing has happened except a huge bickering battle and Fate being scummy :3

1) Call me crazy, but I think Hoopla's idea is pretty simple. I like.
2) If something happens that redirects the wagon, I'd like for Fate to hammer (or Socrates on a Fate wagon)

@TM: That supposes I took the same role as you

@Socrates: On the contrary, the fact you have a quite higher chance to get lynched than people in large X pools means you are less likely to be scumkilled

@Fate: Of course we wanna lynch vengeful! If you are scum, the earlier you die the better for us, if you are town you get a chance to buy back your scumminess

[dramonic]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12

Bouncy.Bouncy

- 3 - RedCoyote, Farside, Fate - (L-9)

Dramonic

- 1 - TonyMontana - (L-11)

Fate

- 9 - Hoopla, Ellibereth, Cobalt, Bouncy.Bouncy, Porkens, Faraday, Devotress, The1fifi, Socrates - (L-3)

Hoopla

- 1 - Jack - (L-11)

Jack

- 2 - Rayfrost, wolframnhart - (L-10)

Socrates

- 1 - StrangerCoug - (L-11)

wolframnhart

- 1 - curiouskarmadog - (L-11)

Players not voting: DocPotter, Dramonic, FeFiFoFum, Pomegranate

question for all, who here played the first game?

I played it. Miserably.

ditto

[dramonic]

you should give the scum more credit <<

[dramonic]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12

Bouncy.Bouncy

- 3 - RedCoyote, Farside, Fate - (L-9)

Dramonic

- 1 - TonyMontana - (L-11)

Fate

- 9 - Hoopla, Ellibereth, Cobalt, Bouncy.Bouncy, Porkens, Faraday, Devotress, The1fifi, Socrates - (L-3)

Jack

- 2 - Rayfrost, wolframnhart - (L-10)

Socrates

- 1 - StrangerCoug - (L-11)

wolframnhart

- 2 - curiouskarmadog, Jack - (L-10)

Players not voting: DocPotter, Dramonic, FeFiFoFum, Pomegranate

you're forgetting a teensy detail: The extra risk that two scums doubling up together have that a third town will join em.

that alone is a pretty huge risk :S

[dramonic]

what kind of split do you think plausible?

1-1-1-1-1?
1-1-1-2?
1-2-2?
1-1-3?
1-4?
2-3?

5 is not an option.

[dramonic]

therefore Hoopla's stat are fairly accurate. Taking 1-2-2 gives us a 37,5% to pick the right group, and if within a single group only one person exists, it gives for a 37,5% also of this person being scum.

We should REALLY lynch Fate.

[dramonic]

Yes, I'm obviously in dire need of being told that <_<

I'm trying to get accross to you that while Fate is scummy anyways, so his lynch is a pretty sure thing, I will eventually push for statistically good lynches, wether you dont like em stats or not.

Also, if you agree with the theory why dont you want to use it?

[dramonic]

^For the record, are you saying you want to see me put at L-1 and claim, Hoopla?

I do!

[dramonic]

my vote is waiting for Socrate's to be off so that I can get on. I want him to hammer.

[dramonic]

I'm brainwashed by the number plot

just in case he's a bomb, I'd like for socrates to be the one caught in the blast ^^

[dramonic]

...

I should read them roles...

Vote: Fate

[dramonic]

why?

[dramonic]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12

Bouncy.Bouncy

- 3 - RedCoyote, Farside, Fate - (L-9)

Dramonic

- 1 - TonyMontana - (L-11)

Fate

- 10 - Hoopla, Ellibereth, Cobalt, Bouncy.Bouncy, Porkens, Faraday, Devotress, The1fifi, Socrates, Dramonic - (L-2)

Hoopla

- 1 - Pomegranate - (L-11)

Jack

- 2 - Rayfrost, wolframnhart - (L-10)

Socrates

- 1 - StrangerCoug - (L-11)

wolframnhart

- 2 - curiouskarmadog, Jack - (L-10)

Players not voting: DocPotter, Fate, FeFiFoFum

Don't post if you're pissy. Your judgement is just of lower quality and your posts are rude in those instance.

Please.

[dramonic]

Let's put all the numbers and PYP and everything aside for a moment, just to humor me, and tell me: What would you do in this situation?:

1. We have Fate, at L-1, softclaimed PR.
2. We have many votes on him that are suspicious.

How do you proceed?

You wait for a fullclaim, if it never occurs you lynch, if it's a protown role you keep alive and or hope for a doc, unless it's a protown role that is better lynched now (say, vengeful).
However, in a normal game your role has some alignement significance.

You are scummy, your defense sounds like that of a man whose back is against the wall and instead of trying to divert the wagon by scumhunting, you are lashing out at me.

The theory is just a theory, but you are the scummiest AND possess quite decent odd of being scum by stats.

[dramonic]

it's not 5,1%, it's 50%. The player isn't scum against the entire player pool, only against the other person that visited the corpse.

[dramonic]

you lost me.

[dramonic]

I've seen him play intelligently and he was scum

FoS: Rayfrost

[dramonic]

was town X_X

typoed.

[dramonic]

we're seriously missing unity around here.
Why is the wagon on Fates dead. He plays like scum, odd-wise makes good scum and you guys are saying he's town.

quid?

[dramonic]

your comparison is not representative at all. You're just throwing away all the key parts of the number theory.

[dramonic]

you guys really cant hold a single vote =_=

[dramonic]

unvote
vote: Fefifofum

I still think Fates is scum.

[dramonic]

;_;

First to die by mafia... yeaz...