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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:35 am

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The time is going to come when that is no longer a factor.

Make a case on who you think is scum, not who is going to be lynched right now.
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:36 am

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You got it. Give me like an hour, tops.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:39 am

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Take your time. The more information the better.
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:46 am

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I'm waiting for the kil lScene before the next kill.
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:52 am

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Roger that.

I hope you realize that part of the goal is burning your vig out today hopefully causing a whole lot of awesome on the way down.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:53 am

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Well, I'm going to haveto deal with it.
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:54 am

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...

Is there any goddamn reason I'm bothering with this fakevote shit? I want information, and I want democratic bullets. We can lynch AS MANY TIMES AS WE LIKE in a day unless we hit a vanilla. Why are we dictatoring this?

Who ani should be shooting but clearly doesn't care about democracy count:[/i]
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:54 am

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EBWOP:

Who ani should be shooting but clearly doesn't care about democracy count:

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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:57 am

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I think it's 7.

14-1 = 13/2 = 6.5 rounded up to 7.
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:58 am

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Democracy is overrated. Hail ceaser!
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:59 am

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AH, 7 votes then.

Pom's pretty close to a lynch now, isn't she?
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:00 am

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about 1/2 the way there.
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:02 am

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EBWOP:

I'm laughing in my mind thinking about UK is trying to get the town to think she can make me do whatever she wants.

1 mistep and BOOM.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:27 am

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ani wrote: EBWOP:

I'm laughing in my mind thinking about UK is trying to get the town to think she can make me do whatever she wants.

1 mistep and BOOM.
Um...I don't have any stake. Hell, I'd refrain from voting since my opinion is third party. What I'm trying to do is get the town to make you do what the town wants.

If you are town that makes sense, right?

And plus, there is a lot of information to be drawn from the fakevotes. It's just as serious a bandwagon, and bandwagon analysis can be fruitful.

Well, that is, assuming you actually LISTEN to the town and shoot who they direct. Makes sense, right?

Well, if you are town.

I really don't understand what you think I'm trying to do BESIDES that.
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:37 am

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Ok, so I didn't want to deal with the PR people yet; as translations aren't as good to hunt for scum the way I normally do.

From the rest of the players I looked over Sykedoc, Starbuck and Rifka as I feel that they didn't stand out as much and I haven't gotten a decent read on any of them.

Rifka's play that I read didn't bother me as everything that she's said I definitely could see coming from town.

Starbuck's play read town as well. Consistent, firm in her beliefs, and actively scumhunting as well as calling out lurkers.

That brought me back to syke; and I don't see how he was allowed to live.

Early on he talked about how he thinks that one of the post-restricted people are scum. At first I thought he was just on crack or whatever, but after having FFFF/MafiaSSK hit scum, it's definitely a phrase that looked like inside information. A way to cast a blanket suspicion and point to it later if anybody with a PR was starting to get rung up in votes. After all, scum want anybody lynched; and if they can look like they were suspicious of them early on they can get some town points for it. He even goes so far as to single out the Portugese and French restrictions as fake. Along those lines, I'm curious as to when SSK got turned into a PRestricted player, but that's neither here nor there.

Then go for 11 posts (2-13) where he refuses to give any read at all; and when he does (in 14) he comes with a bunch of half tells that say absolutely nothing about alignment for the most part; and fails to follow up on his suspicion of the P/F language PR's (actually goes to call SSK townish)

Goes on to explain why he'll be extra bandwagon-y cause he believes other people more than himself (good excuse... almost)

His entire early game is filled with not scumhunting (and defending that position) and threatening people that he's a power role.

Also deliberately tries to subvert his meta, for no real game-reasons that I can see other than not wanting to be meta'd.

What confuses me is that I see a lot of connections with Kairyuu as well. Kai's vote on Syke is extremely weak (solely for meta reasons) and it's early on. It's very easy for scum to see scummy actions in their partners and buss them for it; and Syke insta-OMGUS's Kai back. This is probably the biggest scum-scum connection that I ever see/look for. (White Castle and I had an extremely similar situation in New York 92)

After voting for Kairyuu; he doesn't even push his viewpoint. He calls Kai scum later on; but in a way that suggests to me that he's a partner with Kai.
sykedoc in ISO 29 wrote:Also: It would seem this wagon is of interest to me.
Death Note, Kairyuu, Anon.

I do not consider LF as wagoning since he voted for me based on another purpose entirely and thus doesn't stand as part of this.

Take a look at a previous vote count:
Parama (3): Kairyuu, Sanhora, Anon
^Two of those three^

See that? Thats about the same correlation you're making.
It goes so far as to call Kai scum, but leaves an out (only 2 of the three, could've been Anon/Sanhora). However, 66% chance would dictate that he should press against Kairyuu more than some other random wagon.

Ugh, this is getting sickening, all he can ever defend himself with is meta which is a BS defense anyways.

OOOOooo, spiffy; unvote of Kai and vote for Anon for basically having the same viewpoint. (ISO 40). Knowing each of their flips, do you really wonder why Syke wouldn't want his vote on Kairyuu and on Anon instead?

I also don't like his position against Llama. He's called Llama white-knighting; and that it could be a scum tactic, but not always is. Shit like this just irks the hell outta me. Also, he didn't say the same thing about Spyre with the unbreakable alliance. Care to take a guess why? It's cause he wasn't going to be under pressure. Heck, apparently Syke was about to vote for Llama (ISO 53) but didn't feel like it cause Llama made a good point (read: scared to get into a confrontation with LF)

Oooo, another good quote:
sykedoc in ISO 53 wrote: On SaintKerrigan
The guy is way too quiet for me. He has 5 total posts in the game.

The first is joke voting RayFrost.

The second is QFTing a question asked by wolf.

The third is telling us he's having a hard time getting his head around the game and that he doesn't have a post restriction. He also answers a question about PRs and posts an opinion on sykedoc:
SaintKerrigan wrote: I don't think it's odd that Sykedoc doesn't have much on people yet. It's early in Day 1 for a large game, and personally I don't have that much in the way of reads yet myself. Maybe other people are getting reads out of this, but I don't find it odd that some people haven't found much of anything yet.
It almost feels like buddying.


I smell active lurking.
Who did SK get replaced by? CSL? The American mafiate? Who else did I find connections with? Kairyuu? He was.. American too, wasn't he? SK didn't get a FoS or anything out of that, but Starbuck did. (It was cause Starbuck was attacking Syke).

He {syke} attacks basically everyone that did attack him all game.

ISO 80 he hops onto DocPotter, the biggest wagon of the time.

Yup, attacks Rifka for voting for him (ISO 97)

Defends Kai's absence (ISO 108)

Syke votes for Parama while attacking Doc (121) Get's questioned/attacked about it, flips back to DocPotter in 127.

Has a problem with Anon in the Alliance even though he gives Anon credit for posting a case against Syke (so did Kairyuu) (ISO 139-140)

142 says that it's unlikely to get a CSL lynch, but votes for him in 145 anyways.

And he hasn't said shit since Day 1.

Exactly an hour! Perfect!
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:38 am

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Finally, I thought that my vote actually being *on* Pom was signaling that I think she should die.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:05 pm

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I'd appreciate links, Amished, given how fucking HUGE all the ISOs are in this game. You can click that nice little white thing to the side of Posted: Date Time Post subject: Number, and the URL in your address bar becomes a link.

that said, from the time I've been in here skye has felt more like an active lurker...not sure what to make of that.
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:06 pm

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Amished wrote: Finally, I thought that my vote actually being *on* Pom was signaling that I think she should die.
Hell, works for me.

ani should shoot one of these doods Votecount

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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:19 pm

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Amished wrote:
He {syke} attacks basically everyone that did attack him all game.

ISO 80 he hops onto DocPotter, the biggest wagon of the time.

Yup, attacks Rifka for voting for him (ISO 97)

Defends Kai's absence (ISO 108)

Syke votes for Parama while attacking Doc (121) Get's questioned/attacked about it, flips back to DocPotter in 127.

Has a problem with Anon in the Alliance even though he gives Anon credit for posting a case against Syke (so did Kairyuu) (ISO 139-140)

142 says that it's unlikely to get a CSL lynch, but votes for him in 145 anyways.

And he hasn't said shit since Day 1.

Exactly an hour! Perfect!
A few things:
1) I'm not intentionally being inactive. My internet was half broken for about a month and now I'm in the middle of midterms and moderating a game of my own. Non-intentional.
2)Bringing up me defending Kai's absence is silly. I talk to him all the time, so if his computer is broken theres no reason for me not to tell you.
3)I vote with Spy because I agreed to vote with Spy.
4) FYI: Anon had a problem with ME in the alliance. I said that I wouldn't care but Anon would most likely throw a tantrum, which he did.
5) I didn't exactly see people jumping all over Kai, don't call me out for that.
6) Everything else you mentioned has been discusses Ad Nauseum.

Also take note of this:
SK- American Mafia
Kai- American Mafia
SSK/FFFF -Greek Mafia

Didn't all these people try to kill me at one point or another?

While Fishy, who flipped town, practically chainsaw defensed me.

Its odd how you're looking very hard for connections. I think you're seeing things that aren't there.

Yup.
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:29 pm

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BTW: Does anyone else smell deflection?
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:53 pm

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BANG!


SpyreX had instructed animorpherv1 to shoot down another player. This time, zoraster was the victim of the bullet.

With the nekomata dead and hopes for the dream ending on a good note in sight, a search is done on zoraster. Once again, incriminating evidence comes up, including a 17N membership card and—your mod hesitates to say this—illegally filmed pornography. zoraster was the least moral member of the Greek Mafia and had tried to cover up both his perversion and his murderous deeds.

Two people responsible for the nightmare have been killed in a day.


zoraster, who was a
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Pomegranate (3): SpyreX, PoisonIvy, Amished
Not voting (9): animorpherv1, Jahudo, Maemuki, Pomegranate, RayFrost, Rifka Viveka, Starbuck, sykedoc, LlamaFluff

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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:54 pm

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Hahahahahahahahahaahahahaaaaaaaa
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:54 pm

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Yaya~

Also
shoot:Pomegrante
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:55 pm

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EBWOP:

Daykill: Pomegranate
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:55 pm

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Holy shit SpyreX, that was AWESOME.

Dammit, why the hell are you asking ME for scumhunting? You've got the game wrapped up probably :S...
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