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Post Post #6  (isolation #0)  » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:49 pm

vote: Espeonage

Unwarranted ego.
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Post Post #9  (isolation #1)  » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:57 pm

Seraphim wrote:Vote: Papa Zito

He knows why.

Eh? What'd I do now?
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Post Post #14  (isolation #2)  » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:16 pm

Arrite.

unvote: Espeonage
vote: farside


Wagon gogogo.
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Post Post #17  (isolation #3)  » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:27 pm

Seraphim doesn't approve of the farside wagon. Why's that, Seraphim?
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Post Post #30  (isolation #4)  » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:51 pm

Seraphim wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:Seraphim doesn't approve of the farside wagon. Why's that, Seraphim?
It's not that I don't approve of the farside wagon, it's that you are obviously scum. In fact, the fact that you are trying to call me out for not approving the farside wagon, a clear misnomer because I never stated such sentiments, is in fact incredibly suspicious in itself.

You're trying to start a counter-wagon on a townie.

And you're being rather defensive about it.

PRETTY SUSPICIOUS STUFF.
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Post Post #52  (isolation #5)  » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:10 am

Prozac-farside scumteam ITT.
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Post Post #54  (isolation #6)  » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:30 am

I forgot Seraphim.

Prozac-farside-Seraphim scumteam.

This game is easy.
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Post Post #123  (isolation #7)  » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:09 pm

Come on kids, don't be shy. Moar farside votes.
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Post Post #151  (isolation #8)  » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:05 am

Patrick wrote:I can confirm that everyone confirmed.

Ah.

unvote: farside22
vote: Anon
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Post Post #153  (isolation #9)  » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:17 am

Yeah, I'm a little irritated it didn't work. C'est la vie.
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Post Post #174  (isolation #10)  » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:12 pm

I wish I had more votes.

Be careful not to get too many splinters from that fence, bv.
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Post Post #191  (isolation #11)  » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:56 am

Agree.

unvote: Anon
vote: DocPotter


Though Anon's participation will be monitored carefully.

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Post Post #194  (isolation #12)  » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:02 pm

Porochaz wrote:This (the last 2 posts) is a dumb game.

Think of it as a public service.

P.S. You should be asking dybeck why he didn't jump on DocPotter since he was also playing the dumb game. Unless you'd rather keep talking about scumhunting instead of actually doing it?
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Post Post #218  (isolation #13)  » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:35 pm

FoS: All lurker apologists

I've lynched too many lurkerscum in my time to quit now.

Porochaz wrote:Why would I ask dybeck about DocPotter when I couldnt give a shit about it? He'll be replaced, all is right in the world.

Because, dear Prozac, it's not about DocPotter, but about Dybeck. Dybeck has done a 180 degree turn from his previous lurker-hunting (Anon) by not hopping onto the remaining lurker wagon (DocPotter). Interestingly enough, this has coincided with this game's strange outcry against wagoning lurkers. I'm curious about it. Why aren't you?

Also, what do you think of ABR's contribution thus far?


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Post Post #238  (isolation #14)  » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:03 pm

Prozac, you seem to have missed what I was driving at. The point isn't that Dybeck is "doing something useful" but that he has very different stances on two players who did the same thing.

Now I'm wondering why you seem to be willing to give Dybeck a free pass.

bv310 wrote:Seriously, what possible benefit is there to announcing it? If he is, then now he's been outed. If he isn't, then odds are he'll be NK'd and we lose a valuable townie.

This leaves me scratching my head a bit. While I appreciate the sentiment, bv seems to be leaving out the possibility that I'm scum.

Now why would he do that?

unvote: DocPotter
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Post Post #242  (isolation #15)  » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:11 pm

Seraphim wrote:Zito, you're smart, I'll ask you. Do you think I should join you on the bv wagon or keep pressuring Richard?

Aww.

Either one is good. I like towns that take a multi-pronged approach, and I'm curious to see what'll fall out if people keep shaking Richard's tree. But also bv's wagon needs help to get rolling. So whichever.

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BTW, the vig thing is something that Porkens did in Tar's Magic the Gathering game. It was fun at the time and something I'd been meaning to shamelessly steal use in another game for a while.


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Post Post #256  (isolation #16)  » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:31 pm

I have strep and need to log off but this game is cooking right now.

Espeonage wrote:@ Anon: "wagon powers activate" is a stupid thing to say. We were finished with rvs.

Anonymous lives for lulz.

Anon wrote:What did Zito do to you?

I pushed a farside wagon for no real reason. See bottom of page 1 and on.

Prolly picked the wrong target but I haven't played with farside before so eh.
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Post Post #263  (isolation #17)  » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:40 pm

And Patrick was doing so well with the votecounts too. :D

farside, I got lost in the machinegun fire. Can you consolidate your Anon case in one post?
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Post Post #270  (isolation #18)  » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:54 pm

Arrite, thanks farside.
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Post Post #289  (isolation #19)  » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:10 pm

I was beaten by goddamn Empking by letting him lurk and not policy lynching his ass early. I'm not letting that happen again.

ABR, scumlist plz.
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Post Post #311  (isolation #20)  » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:09 pm

Welcome to Papa Zito's State of the Game, brought to you by Toyota. Toyota, we're stuck in high gear.(tm)

1) My Milked Eek - Likely scum. Posts thus far have been devoid of scumhunting or opinions of players. Wouldn't mind a lynch here.
2) farside22 - Tunneled townie. Needs to broaden scope.
3) Jahudo - Townie. Doing some good work ITT.
4) Snow_Bunny - Useless so far. Just an RVS vote and a post promised for today.
5) dybeck - Not sure. Didn't like the swap from Anon to ABR if he was lurker hunting, but I can't really argue his target, so.
6) Seraphim - Extending RVS was lame. Something's off. Not sure.
7) bv310 - Likely scum. Couple cases have already been posted. Lynch here would be good.
8) Sando - Follower. Classic blend-into-the-crowd stuff. Another unwasted lynch.
9) Pomegranate - Useless so far. I'm disappointed.
10) Papa Zito - Obvtown. No lynchings plz.
11) Anon - Likely town.
12) Espeonage - Unsure here. Hasn't done a whole lot.
13) RichardGHP - Captain Gambit sure smells like scrambling scum. His 309 is terribad. Another good lynch.
14) NickF227 - More uselessness. Do something.
15) Bio Hazard - Who?
16) Porochaz - Kill it with fire.
17) DocPotter - Lurker. Awaiting content.
18) Faraday - I'm okay with this one for now.
19) curiouskarmadog - No issues here yet either.
20) Albert B. Rampage - Maybe we can like, make him and Prozac put their heads together, and then only waste one noose?
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Post Post #341  (isolation #21)  » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:26 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'll vote whoever as long as it's not me.

Papa Zito wrote:ABR, scumlist plz.


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Snow_Bunny wrote:I will post something tomorrow. Sorry.

Fail.

DocPotter wrote:Ok returning.

reading, etc.

sigh

Pomegranate wrote:Been busy recently, something will be up tonight.

...
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Post Post #347  (isolation #22)  » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:36 pm

Well that post was confusing.

Pom, you just wrote a post making 3 points against Anon, 2 against bv, and 1 against Espeonage. Ignoring that none of them are really original, you made 0 points against Richard and chose him for your vote. Why?
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Post Post #363  (isolation #23)  » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:36 am

ABR, is farside scum?
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Post Post #424  (isolation #24)  » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:54 pm

Pom is screaming scum to me from the top of her lungs.

re: bv, he made a rather major scumslip, which is what earned my vote:

bv310 wrote:Seriously, what possible benefit is there to announcing it? If he is, then now he's been outed. If he isn't, then odds are he'll be NK'd and we lose a valuable townie.

Somehow he knows I'm townie. Perfect Information Syndrome.

@Javert: Welcome, scumlist plz.
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Post Post #430  (isolation #25)  » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:26 pm

Now I'm confused. ABR's not scum? Ugh, you people.
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Post Post #437  (isolation #26)  » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:00 am

Sando wrote:Papa Zito - You call Pom scum, then point to BVs scumslip, which Pom was the first person vocalise in thread afaik.

You are quite clearly wrong. Go back and read it again.

Pom is scum because she's point-scoring against a player that others are already targeting without offering anything new. (Seraphim, Prozac and I all asked ABR things to try to get him involved; mine went ignored, unfortunately) This is similar to when she decided to get involved with the Richard wagon.

bv310 wrote:That post was meant to be "If he's vig". That's what "if he is" means. How many scum vig's do you know of?


That's not what you wrote. Here's what you wrote:

1. If Zito is a vig, then Espeonage has outed Zito.
2. If Zito is not a vig, then scum will NK Zito and we've lost a townie.

There's no room for me to be scum in this. Because you know I'm not scum. Woops.
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Post Post #444  (isolation #27)  » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:09 pm

Pom vote is a good vote. Also I'm happy to see the competing wagons. That'll pay dividends later I expect.

RichardGHP wrote:Checking in.

I voted for bv because he's the largest wagon other then myself and my top scum read clearly isn't being lynched today.

Who's that again?
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Post Post #457  (isolation #28)  » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:05 am

Gosh boberz. Sorry to hear I'm annoying you.

It's going to suck having to bounce around the damn thread and figure out what these numbers equate to.

P.S. Zito is not lurking. Good God. Of all the people to accuse.
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Post Post #463  (isolation #29)  » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:47 pm

farside22 wrote:Papa post 424: She always comes across scummy.

That's no excuse tho. She's taken active lurking to a fine art.

Richard wagon is feeling like a counterwagon to me. If bv slips scum like I expect then you'll find plenty of his friends on there and Richard becomes likely VI.

bob, who are Richard's buddies?
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Post Post #466  (isolation #30)  » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:25 pm

Happy scumday, Faraday!
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Post Post #514  (isolation #31)  » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:09 pm

NickF227 wrote:Well, I think its pretty clear. Saying that farside looks town in one post and then voting for her in the next post is pretty....well, do I really need to explain this? Its self-explanatory.

This... this never happened.
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Post Post #521  (isolation #32)  » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:29 pm

Was reading back a bit on dybeck.

Dybeck, why the hell did you ask people to provide their top 2 town reads?
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Post Post #554  (isolation #33)  » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:35 pm

boberz wrote:With the lurking it seems clearer to me that it is Richard and BV. If only one was scum then the other would be desperate to post so the other was chosen.

Or they're both just really bad town and the scum are biding their time for a mislynch.
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Post Post #564  (isolation #34)  » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:16 pm

Activity check

[mrow]Slot[col]Player[col]Posts[col]Last Post
[row]1)[col]My Milked Eek[col]7[col]31-Mar
[row]2)[col]farside22[col]66[col] 1-Apr
[row]3)[col]Jahudo[col]21[col]31-Mar
[row]4)[col]boberz (replacing Snow_Bunny)[col]13[col]1-Apr
[row]5)[col]dybeck[col]22[col]1-Apr
[row]6)[col]Seraphim[col]69[col]1-Apr
[row]7)[col]bv310[col]37[col]30-Mar
[row]8)[col]Sando[col]20[col]31-Mar
[row]9)[col]Pomegranate[col]20[col]1-Apr
[row]10)[col]Papa Zito[col]34[col]1-Apr
[row]11)[col]Anon[col]33[col]31-Mar
[row]12)[col]Espeonage[col]33[col]31-Mar
[row]13)[col]RichardGHP[col]24[col]31-Mar
[row]14)[col]NickF227[col]10[col]1-Apr
[row]15)[col]Javert (replacing Bio Hazard)[col]4[col]30-Mar
[row]16)[col]Porochaz[col]39[col]31-Mar
[row]17)[col]Ojanen (replacing DocPotter)[col]15[col]31-Mar
[row]18)[col]Faraday[col]19[col]1-Apr
[row]19)[col]curiouskarmadog[col]16[col]1-Apr
[row]20)[col]Albert B Rampage[col]28[col]31-Mar

I'm inherently suspicious of the <20 post crowd.
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Post Post #578  (isolation #35)  » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:34 am

Javert wrote:angry words

Looks like I touched a nerve.

Pomegranate wrote:Do you really think this? If so, why are you voting bv?

Good grief you're scum. You and your friends better kill me tonight because I'm going to wagon you into oblivion tomorrow.
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Post Post #590  (isolation #36)  » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:32 pm

^^^ kill it with fire.
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Post Post #594  (isolation #37)  » Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:39 pm

bv310 wrote:I seem to be a magnet for VT roles.

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Post Post #613  (isolation #38)  » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:15 pm

boberz, bv can speak for himself. You're only hurting the town by trying to speak for him. (I realize you're scum so you don't care, so just keep this in mind for future games)
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Post Post #620  (isolation #39)  » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:39 pm

boberz wrote:You are making a real mistake here.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS

Jesus.
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Post Post #624  (isolation #40)  » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:47 pm

farside22 wrote:Why is bob so jumpy about a tie if he believe's bv is town?
Anyone?

A tie? What do you mean?
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Post Post #634  (isolation #41)  » Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:28 pm

boberz wrote:How do I know they are wrong about this??? Because I am not scum and I was responding to the premise that I was a partner with BV!!!

I thought you were saying that about bv=scum. My bad.

boberz wrote:Why do I care about not appearing to have a link with BV???

Better question: Why aren't you scumhunting???
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Post Post #671  (isolation #42)  » Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:22 am

Papa Zito wrote:
bv310 wrote:I seem to be a magnet for VT roles.

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I took this to mean "I'm always VT, and here I am yet again."
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Post Post #686  (isolation #43)  » Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:50 pm

The pace of the game has really slowed down. That makes me feel good about the bv wagon.
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Post Post #807  (isolation #44)  » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:46 pm

Amished wrote:CKD, Javert, Ojanen and Papa Zito: What are the most significant parts of this game so far in each of your opinions?

I feel bv made a true scumslip and must be lynched posthaste. His lurking just cements the feeling. That's #1.

Also, I have a very heavy scumread on Pom. That's #2. I mean, look at this:

Pomegranate wrote:Why? Please explain how you feel about lynching him once he claimed PR.

This kind of stuff doesn't even make sense.

Richard is either scum or VI or 3rd party or whatever. Regardless he needs to die. That's #3.

I will happily lynch any of those three, preferably in that order.

Lately the game feels like a lot of filler as people maneuver around and see which wagon becomes a clear favorite. That tells me the scum aren't happy with (at least) one of the wagons. Also the attempted counterwagon on boberz (townread now) points that way too.

Seraphim wrote:Alright. Show me an example of a PBPA that was helpful to town.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 62#1720862

Jahudo wrote:Can you show examples of what BV's "scum slip and fakeclaim" posts would look like if they got the same information across but were made by town?

Er. What?

farside wrote:Do you believe him?

If he's vanilla, then he's a goon.
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Post Post #809  (isolation #45)  » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:34 pm

bv310 wrote:
Espeonage wrote:Papa Zito is vig

Holy rolefishing, Batman!

Seriously, what possible benefit is there to announcing it?

aka, no need to speculate, especially when chastising someone else for doing so.

bv310 wrote:I don't have one to show you, Faraday.

Though this has been cleared up already.
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Post Post #811  (isolation #46)  » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:56 pm

^^Goodposting.
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Post Post #836  (isolation #47)  » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:32 am

bv310 wrote:What do you want me to claim? I'm a villager (vanilla townie). I have no special abilities other than my vote and my voice. I win when all anti-town players are eliminated.

Do I get to facepalm.jpg now?

I don't like the way Javert's positioning himself.
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Post Post #841  (isolation #48)  » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:21 am

Why do you believe the claim, Jahudo?
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Post Post #845  (isolation #49)  » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:44 pm

Javert wrote:
Papa Zito, Post 836 wrote:I don't like the way Javert's positioning himself.

Positioning myself for what?

Looks like a pre-emptive "I told you so" post.

Jahudo wrote:Takes his flip-flopping on Richard. I think town power roles would be more decisive in that situation, at least not changing a read in back-to-back posts. Since PRs aren't as expendable as VTs, I think they'd play more cautiously than BV has.

Why do you think town anything would be more likely to do this?

Jahudo wrote:Also regarding his threat to replace out, followed by an /in at another game starting next week: I read it as genuinely being overwhelmed with mafiascum-type commitments, and not something town or scum would be more likely to do.

Why do you think a player who was overwhelmed in one game would immediately join another?
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Post Post #857  (isolation #50)  » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:42 pm

Jahudo wrote:Are you guys asking me these questions because you have doubts about BV being scum?

I'm asking these questions because I have doubts about Jahudo being town. Deflecting certainly doesn't help.
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Post Post #869  (isolation #51)  » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:39 pm

I skimmed past farside's post, nevermind.
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Post Post #872  (isolation #52)  » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:47 pm

"Pom, as of this moment, your the scummiest person on MS." ~Papa Zito
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Post Post #876  (isolation #53)  » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:13 pm

Javert wrote:A player saying "I told you so" is something claimed when a game is over, not while a game is on-going.

Wat? No. People say "Gee guyz if you'd only listened to me I said he wasn't scum why didn't you listen to me hai guyz?"

That's during the game.
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Post Post #979  (isolation #54)  » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:34 am

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Post Post #2436  (isolation #55)  » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:03 pm

Aww, we lost The Game.

Glad I could be a nuisance while I was here.
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