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What reactions have you found noteworthy or indicative of alignment?RichardGHP wrote:EBWOP:
Well part of my "tantrum" is reaction testing, and part of it is a little frustration. C'mon, you really can't empathise with being panicked and frustrated when 1 person votes you three times?
I mean to me this seems like a bunch a garbage made up after the fact.
Hey what the fuck are you doing'
'lol gambit itroolu'
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You need to read people in iso already to have a strong opinion? I thought you just read the thread. Your line up of what richard did, doesn't line up with what he said though.Anon wrote: A more deep reread in iso will give me more light about these three. For now, wagon powers activate:
Richard, obv. Anon's a posibillity too, first post looks pretty half assed and gives me a bad feeling. Other than that, not sure.CKD wrote:Hey faraday, who areyour buddiesscum?
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I love this game. I'd shoot anon.Papa Zito wrote: If I were a vig, I'd shoot Sando.
Anyway I skimmed over richard's early play in Christmas mafia, and I don't think his play is that similar at all. he gets a few votes early there and reacts ok, there's certainly no self voting, or asking people to lynch him. I find his whole attitude here rather different. CKD you played the game, do you feel his play is similar at all (apart from perhaps being maybe not very good, but that's irrelevant)are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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How much do you use meta, Sera? It just seems you could at least take a stance on him before you read his meta, then at least re-evaluate.Seraphim wrote:Depending on what Richard does next, bv may be my next suspect. I may have to read up on his meta because his posts are throwing up red flags.
If people are going to post in other games they should be kept tabs on, this early in the game it shouldn't be a big deal, but actively avoiding a thread is a scum tell in my (and many others) opinion. I don't like the implication that both can't be achieved or even go hand in hand.Poro wrote:I hate the LaLurkers mechanic, how about we let Patrick do his job and prod/replace and we do some proper scumhunting?
See above imo. if he's got a valid explanation then fine, but don't act like keeping an eye on lurkers is stopping 'proper' scumhunting. That's pretty clearly not true.I don't know how many of you are scum or not. All I know is that your crusade is not helping anyone and is getting on my nerves. It's not scum hunting because you have no reason to believe DocPotter is scum. If he doesn't post today, he'll be replaced. Big effing deal. It's the first week of the first Day. By focusing solely on the lurkers, you are acting like them by not participating in the game and giving us little or no read on you. Use your vote to hunt possible suspects and let the mod do his job.
LMAO.Espeonage wrote:Papa Zito is vig
^^ feels fake. Also discounts papa as scum, can you explain why?Bv wrote:Seriously, what possible benefit is there to announcing it? If he is, then now he's been outed. If he isn't, then odds are he'll be NK'd and we lose a valuable townie.
Albert wrote:Come on, let's just lynch whoever the fuck ever, I don't care about Day 1.
But day 1 is one of the most fun parts of the game
Who would you prefer to lynch though, surely you've some preference?
This is by my count the 3rd time you've mentioned bv. It seems a bit odd you're going to keep on talking about how badly you want to vote him and then not.Gaaaaaah...I want to vote bv310 reeeeeally bad right now...but Richard still needs pressure...
Anon's reading fairly ok to me in his responses. I don't think he's fencesitting, he's saying it's a case by case basis and he's trying to work out what's going on. obviously i'd like a stance from him, but I'd prefer he analyse the wagon instead of doing it half assed too, so yeah.
Hmm Bv's response makes sense. SpyreX used it to breadcrumb vig in Tofu mafia (too lazy to get a link).
As I said, earlier I think(?), Richard doesn't look that similar CKD, your points are maybe valid (i'm not sure what to think if he's lying, it seems pretty hard to figure out what he's doing), but I'm content with my vote on him as of now as I feel he deserves some pressure.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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What? Please quote where I said I'd seen it, thanks. I never said I'd seen it but hey, I don't think it's impossible. I'm saying I don't think Anon is fencesitting, and I thought his responses to the pressure were pretty ok.farside22 wrote:Faraday: please link a game you saw scum using a reaction ploy to make a town look scum on day 1 in the RVS stage.
Well if that's the case why isn't your vote on me? 'Almost never' is pretty good for day 1, wouldn't you say. And I disagree, I find when people make sweeping assumptions and almost calling someone as town, without really thinking about it to be scummy.bv310 wrote:Faraday, I wasn't discounting him as scum, I just don't see any scumminess in his posts. It's funny though, that argument of "He didn't say scum, so he must be scum!" is almost never used by pro-town players.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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Pom wa slynched in PYP2 b/c of a fake cop claim. I don't think she would have been lynched that day if not. Her questioning of ABR is fine and all but it's been done and idk, I'd have thought she could be pursuing other avenues.
I'm going to go read Opensource mafia, she was scum there and I pegged her so let's see if there's any similarities as that game was quite recent.
Javert's first post was quite impressive and reads good to me. Gonna read boberz's but it's hard to follow and jump around the thread with the numbers the way they are but thanks for replacing.
No idea what this refers to so let me go check and I'll give you an answer.Why did Faraday put "(and many others)" in #287 feels like he is trying to seem towny?are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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I don't understand how you could possibly see that as 'trying to seem towny' when I was talking about mafia theory.
I was pointing out I find lurking scummy (and do many others) so the focus on 'stop da lurkerhunting' wasn't going to work, and was wasting more time than people looking at lurkers.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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Sorry been absent, busy with STUFF.
I'm stilling kinda..waiting from something from richard. I'm his top suspect for no apparent (good) reason.
Espeonage is reading a little differnently than me in his newb game where I picked him out as town despite the fact he was quite scummy. I want to read him in iso.
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Ugh I'm leaning towards BV being a VI more than scum at the moment. I think Richard's scummier, and more likely to be scum than Bv who (no offense) seems to play like this every game from a couple of his games I've read.
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oh god this is so frustrating i can barely stay logged on long enough to read a page.
anyway here's what i've gleaned so far
Okay so I still think Richard could be scum, but in the absence of that let's look at other players.
I think prozac's been very reactive. Basically what I mean by that is he's mostly responding to things directly aimed at him, and doing very little else. Almost everything he's said has been sparked by someone else. His first well lots of posts are mostly fluff and mafia theory. There's a lot of words in iso 14 but it's more-so him explaining his playstyle.
Post iso 17 for prozac is similar. Looks impressive at a glance but there's really no meat to it. He then attacks people for going after lurkers; which is all well and good if yhou disagree with it, but surely there are other things you can be doing as well, if not you're as guilty as the lurkers of clogging up the thread. His iso 30 is fairly reasonable. From thne untill now most of his posts have been directly answering points raised against him. Not that he even has that many posts. Now there's nothing wrong with that, obviously but really, where's the scumhunting. He seems busy, but I'm not sure where his suspects lie atm (apart from his vote I guess).
Prozac who's your top 3 for scum at this stage and why? (maybe a sentence to quickly summarise your feelings, plz)
Other things: Amished's case on Seraphim is quite good, and I can buy that. I found seraphime's early game behaviour noteworthy. Essentially his exaggerations reluctance on who to vote, it loooked fake at the time and I think it makes a lot of sense from Seraphim scum POV.
Do you honestlyu believe this? it's a gem of a post either way. I remember posting something like that, after a hammer as scum before, but it was only b/c it was a multi faction game. Either way I think it's Null. I wanted to read your most recent postssoon too.Just to note, continually referring to someone as scum in second-person form ("You are scum, after all", "Alot of scum do this, you especially") is a VERY scum-like action and town don't really do it at all. It's like boberz is so hellbent on a mislynch on me. I know for a fact that I am town, so logically I have slight suspicion of everyone on my wagon - but my boberz suspicion is legitimate and valid.
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Boberz (I find his defense of bv to be genuine and i don't see the scum motivation in it, so he's looking quite town)
CKD I'm leaning town on but I wish he'd post more, yeah pot and kettle and I know he's busy but still.
I'm also leaning town on Bv at this moment.
Espeonage has disappeared (flaked?)Patrick could you prod him if you haven'tOops never mind he declared V/La in his sig, but idk if that's up yet.
As for Pom, I went and re-read Opensource mafia modded by slysly (coney island) and I think her play there is fairly similar to here. I'd be happy voting her, she hasn't really done any scumhunting at all and I barely remember any stances of note she has. Now of course maybe I've a bad memory but that's not the case
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ABR I'm not sure if this has been asked, but do you generally distain Day 1 in games or is it something new you're trying (the closest we've come to playing is a Mokina haunted mansion game which was fun, but eh, it's not mafia )
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I agree w/r/t to the voting situation. I don't see the potential of dybeck being lynched - there doesn't appear to be enough support. I haven't noticed a whole lot from Nick, he appears quite newby, but I'll give him a read to see what I think.Anon wrote:
And the separation begins. I see good cases against espeonage, dybeck, nick and pome. I wouldnt be surprised if most of them are scum. On the other hand, boberz and Seraphim are prob town, so I wont be supporting any of these.
Voting separation is good when we are away from deadline but right now we need to get a consensus besides the richard scummy wagon. Even If Im more sure about Nick being scum, we need to start getting together before its too late.
I support a Pom or Richard lynch atm. Either of them works well. I can always get on my phone to switch and will be in college thursday so net access won't be a problem w/ vote switching at deadline (library closes @ 10 so it's fine)
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IIRC Bv mentioned it.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Why wouldn't Papa Zito kill anyone? Was he roleblocked? Did anyone suspect he was a vig?
Lolwut. I'm not sure what you mean here. How could I concievably set up a vig claim? And I was just using what zito did as I too had seen it in another game and thought it was useful.boberz wrote:I think Faraday is suspicious because of his response to this where he used it as an excuse to set up a potential vig claim later.
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Well there's also the fact limited shot vigs tend to be more careful with their role use too.Also, I think Papa Vito may have been holding onto his shots because of the theme...the Karma element of it. It's really vaguely described and there might be more to his role that suggested that shooting might be a bad thing.
Can I ask why?Pom is high on my scum list, but I want her to check in first.
Wagony? I was voting him because I believed he was scum and saw no better candidate to change it to, I guess that's wagony, idk.Javert wrote:With this reasoning applied, this is why I am concerned with Porochaz's vote being on RichardGHP for practically all of Day One. And looking back on the vote counts, this reasoning applies almost equally well to Faraday (who actually had a more wagony vote), though I didn't notice that until just now. It feels to me that both of those votes were "ride it out" votes.
As for your earlier question, my suspicioun of Richard has considerably lessened as a result of Bv's flip. I think it seems unlikely that both are scum. I'll read back to be more sure, but gut says it's unlikely that it was 2 scum who were run up.
This is an odd thing to post.pom wrote:I'm sitting here refusing to feel pressured, even though a third of the players alive are voting for me first thing I see D2. Thanks for trying though.
So you admit to lurking in plain sight?Pom wrote:I would love to know how you feel that you are doing anything more than me, Espeonage. Yes, that was a question directed at you. You're jumping on a wagon without much of anything yourself. Ahh, hypocrasy at its best.
Who else do you suspect?
I remember saying stuff about Espeonage yesterday but my head's all over the place atm.
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Is there any harm in having her kept around for a few days/nights?
What if she was to go into strong mode - and we have her hide behind someone. Under the assumption she's not scum the scum can't kill her as her role could be re-directed to one of them. Rit? That's assuming I understand her role correct.
If she's scum she just fakes results for a few days, and we can always lynch her later.
I need to re-read a bit, but is there any obvious flaws in that?
edit before post: Actually any sort of scum roleblocker/director can fuck that up completely, so I'm not so sure.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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Eh, yeah having thought about it there's no way to truely confirm the role I guess. I've seen hider as scum claims a few time, iirc CKD did it in Emerald City
Pom's basically a weak cop in weak mode, and then becomes a regular hider in strong mode.
If we're keeping her around I'd prefer to direct her though. I don't see why we should leave it up to her own judgement. We'll probably never be able to fully trust her anyway, will we, so if we were to keep her around trying to confirm specific people might be more helpful.I dont know if I can swallow the claim, but I know I dont like those (farside faraday) trying to dicate how she uses her role before she uses it. I think she needs to use it how she deems fit. She will have to answer for those decisions.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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Let me think on this, I thought for a second this wouldn't be a bad thing. I mean wcs we get rid of scummy pom who we're unsure of anyway and I'd assuming we['d get her to investigate people we feel are likely to be mafia anyway, so we'd be forcing the scum into a sub optimal kill just to knock off 2 people?dybeck wrote:
Faraday: It doesn't work. Scum could just nk her target and Pom will die too. That's why I retracted my suggestion that we direct her.Faraday wrote:What info do we get if she dies hiding behind someone? We've no idea who she'd have hid behind so we'g get nothing. At least by directing her this becomes possible.
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Uh not sure how the first paragraph is all that relevant to what I said. And I'm not 'condoning' the idea, I'm saying if the scenario you happened described I'd not be overly upset. As it'd be getting rid of two scummy players, which I don't see as a bad thing.dybeck wrote:
This is the scummiest thing I've ever read in my life.
Scum KNOW who's scum and who's not. Just because we think somebody might be scum, doesn't make them less of an asset if they are town.
You're condoning the idea of giving mafia a two-for-one kill, at least one of which is a power role.
The fact the mafia will have wasted their kill on someone we may have lynched doesn't upset me, so yeah, I've no idea how you can find that scummy.
I think there are too many massive holes in the plan anyway having thought it through properly.
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CKD - the only reason we knew you were fakeclaiming that game was because I was scum and you claimed to hide behind KK - my scumbuddy, and it doesn't appear we've got multiple factions here at least.
Hmm I guess I see your point re: pom going blind if we keep her around though, I think directing her won't work b/c we don't know what can fuck results up. Also CKD i'm not on her wagon, lol so yeah I'm not sure if that was directed at me.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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catching up but this is a very good question I think.curiouskarmadog wrote:
what confused you about it?Pomegranate wrote:No, never played with a hider before. It's not extremely common, though, I have to say, it is a cool tole. But it confused me at first, which is actually why I originally massed up a bit oof my role while claiming.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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i think rising outing more powerful roles to try and possibly confirm someone's a bad plan. we've no guarantee we even have those roles in the game.dybeck wrote:[
But I'm just thinking about risk versus reward. We've got a real potential tangible reward in keeping Pomtown alive, and nobody's really put a case that there's a real drawback in keeping Pomscum alive for a night - to see if a tracker or cop can confirm her one way or another tonight, and to get some further usable info from her night action tonight - usable info which will be confirmed fact if we decide to lynch her tomorrow.
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While true this isn't really related what boberz said, unless you think he's doing that, in which case, I guess waiting for the case would help.dybeck wrote:
?boberz wrote:Basically dybeck has been bothering me for a while I am sure there is a reason so I will look when I get a bit more time.
Just for reference, town generally look for scummy things and choose a lynch target based upon those things. Choosing a lynch target and then scrabbling for some sort of justification betrays you as scum.
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I don't mind dybeck's explanation, really. It at least lets me know where he's at,.
I think it's obvious that since PR's have a weak strong mode obviously there's some negative effect. Since town doesn't know what it is, it seems obvious it's doing something to either 1) help scum and 2) hinder town.dybeck wrote:
It's "Karma" mafia, after all - the mod's given it that name for a reason, and if scum are getting extra information based upon town's night actions, we should think about a strategy to counter it.
The one thing that is clear is that they're doing a good job of hitting PRs overnight, and we might want to examine whether this is just luck or whether town PRs are inadvertently helping them out.
The thing is, while trying to work it out is good I don't know where to start.
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I think it depends on the game. You'll usually see at least one scum trying to 'make waves' in most games IME.farside22 wrote:
This is bullshit. Scum would rather blend in then make waves. Or they lurk their ass off.ABR wrote:Of the people who actively tried to derail the Pom bandwagon, I think there was at least one scum. Farside is probably town because of Pom, and Porochaz is dead, so there's Nick and CKD left. IGMEOY goes out to both but no FOS.
I'm not sure how Dybeck's discussion will out PR's I guess it's possible in the way people react, but it seems so far that they've more idea how karma works than anyone else. Pom certainly didn't seem to or she's surely have mentioned it.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?- Faraday
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Oh wow. Can't say I agree with Abr's play, but it worked this time. Unless he's got far bigger balls than I think he's not scum here, not sure why he's getting the votes he is.
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The arguments against ABR seem stupid to me. If he was scum I don't think he'd come out and admit he'd faked his claim. it's obviously going to bring a lot of scrutiny on him.
I'm content with him for the moment, as it's very possible Sando wouldn't have been lynched without his efforts.
So yeah.
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What? Seriously you think admitting as lying as scum here was the best or easiest option for Albert. I don't buy that at all. It's far easier for him to fake results for a day or 2, maybe even more. Hell he could have easily claimed roleblocked or shit like that either if he really didn't want to give out results.dybeck wrote:
How long do you think he'd last giving out fake results? He'd get caught out before the end of the game. This has obviously been pointed out to him by his scummates overnight and he's realised his schoolboy error.Faraday wrote:The arguments against ABR seem stupid to me. If he was scum I don't think he'd come out and admit he'd faked his claim.
Admitting to lying about his results is his ONLY remaining option.
I really don't see any good reasons for voting him atm.
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Knowing what this is based on I think it's not an unreasonable conclusion at all. Especially if he felt he was likely to die.curiouskarmadog wrote:this has nothing to do with anything current.
this is a meta, but wanted it out there.
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Um he has a few votes against him does he not? This seems like a cop out if you find him scummy.NickF227 wrote:
IMO, Espy has a stronger case against her, and no one really wants to vote ABR, for whatever reason.Seraphim wrote:Hey, Nick, why the sudden 180 on ABR? I totally expected you to be hitting him hard today after the backtrack.
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I don't see Sera as the most likeliest candidate for scum atm.
He's quite vehment and constant with his BV hate once he does jump on. I did think he was playing both sides of the fence with his 'I reaaaaaally wanna vote bv' early on in the game, but I'm not sure that's the type of thing he'd post if he was buddies with Bv, I know it's not something I'd ever do with a scumbuddy, that's for sure, so I think looking back it's more likely he did find them both genuinely scummy as opposed to making sure he could be seen to be suspicious of Bv.
I need to check his interaction with Sando to be sure tho.
I don't remember much about Nick off hand I need to re-read. Amished looks quite townie to me.
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I changed my mind, basically. Having gone back and read them I don't think they're more likely to come from Sera scum than town, as I think you as scum would be more careful about being so ...well obvious about your obvious reluctance to the wagon.Seraphim wrote:
These next two quotes are days apart but I find them noteworthy because they both comment on the same window of posts. I'll explain why once you see the quotes.
Faraday wrote:Amished's case on Seraphim is quite good, and I can buy that. I found seraphime's early game behaviour noteworthy. Essentially his exaggerations reluctance on who to vote, it loooked fake at the time and I think it makes a lot of sense from Seraphim scum POV.
I'm not sure what changed here. So I'd like an explanation. A lot of Amished's initial case on me revolves around the same window so I'm not sure what changed between then and now.Faraday wrote:I don't see Sera as the most likeliest candidate for scum atm.
He's quite vehment and constant with his BV hate once he does jump on. I did think he was playing both sides of the fence with his 'I reaaaaaally wanna vote bv' early on in the game, but I'm not sure that's the type of thing he'd post if he was buddies with Bv, I know it's not something I'd ever do with a scumbuddy, that's for sure, so I think looking back it's more likely he did find them both genuinely scummy as opposed to making sure he could be seen to be suspicious of Bv.
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Town/Prob town
1) Amished (replacing My Milked Eek)
2) farside22
4) boberz (replacing Snow_Bunny)
15) Javert (replacing Bio Hazard)
18) Faraday
6) Seraphim
20) Albert B. Rampage
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Ojanen
CKD although this is mostly meta based, I feel he's playing differently than I've seen him as scum in the past.
Neutralish:
3) Jahudo
Scummyish
5) dybeck
14) NickF227
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Yeah I don't think this is telling. having said that the claim really does nothing for me either. We've already seen Bv claim vanilla as scum, too.NickF227 wrote:I don't buy Espy's claim at all, mostly because he said it was his role was 'Vanilla Townie', even though earlier in the game by a townie death, it showed the role was named 'Villager' here. =/
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I assume you've read town games of mine to make sure I don't do similar things in those games? Would you mind at least pointing out the percieved similarities, I'm not going to read my own games to see what you're talking about. Also your meta is pretty damn old, it was my first game on the site. I think my playstyle has changed a lot since then. My wiki has a whole list of scum games that are more recent, so cherrypicking one that probably doesn't reflect my current playstyle is well not something I can defend against.farside22 wrote:Yay!!! I declare Faraday is scum. I give to you exibit A faraday scum
Please count the number of things you see in that game that is in this game as well and you may just switch you vote with me.
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Uh it's limited access, not none btw. I'm V/la most weekends and can only post every so often due to unreliable internet.farside22 wrote:Yeah I just searched multisearch and one time faraday said v/la he still was posting elsewhere.
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I read richard as somewhat of a Vi that was likely to be scum. I'd examine the large normal he played where people, CKD, had said he was scummy but I found quite a few differences in his playstyle there and early on in the game.farside22 wrote:faraday:
post 592 I don't see how he reads Bv as a VI and not richard.
God reading Faraday is horrible. He's been saying v/la most of the game or needing to catch up. I seriously want reasons right now on why he thinks the players he has listed are scum.
Worst part Faraday always looks scummy to me except once. I need to look at something that bugs me about him a little bit later.
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