Karma Mafia (Game Over!)

[Porochaz]

ABR is playing roughly how I expect him to early on.

[Seraphim]

Papa Zito is vig

*face-palm*

[Anon]

Anon, if over-reacting and panicking to a vote(s) isn't scummy, what is a scummy reaction to votes?

It entirely depends on the way people express that reaction.

Ive seen townies, especially newbies, overreact and panick to a vote, which is prob not the case here since its more likely richard is angry with ckd triple vote. Ive seen scumbags play it cool and not slip until the last moment.

All alignments commit scumtells, the point is that you have to analyse first if its a very reliable scumtell, and second if there are other tells to fight or help the read. That is scumhunting.

[Sando]

So it could be a scumtell, but pushing it and trying to get more information is a bad thing?

[Espeonage]

Papa Zito is vig

*face-palm*

[Anon]

So it could be a scumtell, but pushing it and trying to get more information is a bad thing?

Not necessarily.

The point is that this "omg scumtell, lynch lynch" is a safe place for scumbags to hide, specially if the target is town, as I suspect.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Porochaz and Dybek, good posting, keep it up. Other players, well, let's lynch a lurker.

[Seraphim]

I don't think anyone is pushing for a lynch immediately at this moment.

[Anon]

Because it is scraping through without content. That isn't good.

But I did provide content.

My question is that you are voting me because you disagree with it?

[bv310]

Papa Zito is vig

Holy rolefishing, Batman!

Seriously, what possible benefit is there to announcing it? If he is, then now he's been outed. If he isn't, then odds are he'll be NK'd and we lose a valuable townie.

[Sando]

So it could be a scumtell, but pushing it and trying to get more information is a bad thing?

Not necessarily.

The point is that this "omg scumtell, lynch lynch" is a safe place for scumbags to hide, specially if the target is town, as I suspect.

We've put him to what, L-5, L-6, where have the massive calls for lynching been? If I see a scumtell, why wouldn't I vote it?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Come on, let's just lynch whoever the fuck ever, I don't care about Day 1.

[Seraphim]

Gaaaaaah...I want to vote bv310 reeeeeally bad right now...but Richard still needs pressure...

[Papa Zito]

Prozac, you seem to have missed what I was driving at. The point isn't that Dybeck is "doing something useful" but that he has very different stances on two players who did the same thing.

Now I'm wondering why you seem to be willing to give Dybeck a free pass.

Seriously, what possible benefit is there to announcing it? If he is, then now he's been outed. If he isn't, then odds are he'll be NK'd and we lose a valuable townie.

This leaves me scratching my head a bit. While I appreciate the sentiment, bv seems to be leaving out the possibility that I'm scum.

Now why would he do that?

unvote: DocPotter
vote: bv310

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If I were a vig, I'd shoot Sando.

[Seraphim]

Zito, you're smart, I'll ask you. Do you think I should join you on the bv wagon or keep pressuring Richard?

[farside22]

Did you even read my reason's for finding his behavoir scummy based on the actions so far? He was antsy on one f@#ing vote. One person pushing his button's and he couldn't handle it.

Do you know that players

that are town tend to do that for reaction?

Players that are TOWN?

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And anon misrepresents the question.

I love how anon isn't answering anything asked at all so far. (in case you missed it that is sarcasm)

unvote:
vote: Anon

I dont want to misrepresent the question and correct me if Im wrong, but in this post you are saying that players that are town tend to do that (push buttons so target cant handle). I assume you are talking about CKD. How do you know CKD is town?

Oh and your not answering my question your trying to make it more then it is.

Also please point me to questions Ive missed.

Are you going to answer my question first or keep harping on the town? I'm not saying anyone is town. I'm stating that town tends to push for reaction. Do you disagree with my thought on what town tends to do?

Yeah its one vote. But it was not a normal one vote. As I said, CKD voted him three times, in a serious way, with zero ingame argumentation. Of course people is going to be obsessed with someone voting him like that.

What's the difference between what CKD did to rich that Papa Zito was doing to me exactly?

[farside22]

Anon, if over-reacting and panicking to a vote(s) isn't scummy, what is a scummy reaction to votes?

It entirely depends on the way people express that reaction.

Ive seen townies, especially newbies, overreact and panick to a vote, which is prob not the case here since its more likely richard is angry with ckd triple vote. Ive seen scumbags play it cool and not slip until the last moment.

All alignments commit scumtells, the point is that you have to analyse first if its a very reliable scumtell, and second if there are other tells to fight or help the read. That is scumhunting.

So because Rich couldn't answer my questions or points and ask people to vote for him = frustrated town?

[Papa Zito]

Zito, you're smart, I'll ask you. Do you think I should join you on the bv wagon or keep pressuring Richard?

Aww.

Either one is good. I like towns that take a multi-pronged approach, and I'm curious to see what'll fall out if people keep shaking Richard's tree. But also bv's wagon needs help to get rolling. So whichever.

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BTW, the vig thing is something that Porkens did in Tar's Magic the Gathering game. It was fun at the time and something I'd been meaning to shamelessly

steal

use in another game for a while.


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If I were a vig, I'd shoot Sando.

[Espeonage]

@ Anon:

"wagon powers activate"

is a stupid thing to say. We were finished with rvs.
@ bv: Don't take that seriously. It is impossible to get anything from what PZ said other than he has a FoS on Sando. 'twas a joke.

[Anon]

@Sando: Im precisely trying to explain why what Richard did wasn't a scumtell and why do I think he is town.

@Farside, relax a little.

What question do you want ME to answer?

What question do you want RICHARD to answer?

............

Also interested on the bv case. First, massive flipflopping on richard and second what Zito said. While I talk with farside Ill contribute with a better wagon:

Vote: bv

@Espeonage, so you voted me because I said something stupid?

[Anon]

Do you disagree with my thought on what town tends to do?

Yes, town tends to push for reactions, thats pure scumhunting, but that doesnt mean that all people pushing for reactions are town.

What's the difference between what CKD did to rich that Papa Zito was doing to me exactly?

What did Zito do to you?

[Espeonage]

Ok Saying somt=ething stupid is a bit undescriptive. You said something that is a stupid thing to say when thying to place a vote. It makes your vote seem like it is based off a whim which is unacceptable anywhere other than RVS.

[Sando]

All alignments commit scumtells, the point is that you have to analyse first if its a very reliable scumtell, and second if there are other tells to fight or help the read. That is scumhunting.

@Sando: Im precisely trying to explain why what Richard did wasn't a scumtell and why do I think he is town

That's not what I got from your previous answer, you seemed to be saying that it was scumtell committed by town. Which is it?

[Anon]

I think its pretty clear that you think overreaction is a scumtell while I dont think it is.

[farside22]

The other question Anon missed

Did you even read my reason's for finding his behavoir scummy based on the actions so far?