Karma Mafia (Game Over!)

[Patrick]

Votecount

farside22 (2) -- Albert B. Rampage, Snow_Bunny
Albert B. Rampage (2) -- My Milked Eek, dybeck
RichardGHP (7) -- Porochaz, Faraday, Sando, Jahudo, bv310, NickF227, Pomegranate
Sando (1) -- Bio Hazard
Faraday (2) -- curiouskarmadog, RichardGHP
bv310 (5) -- Papa Zito, Anon, Seraphim, Espeonage, farside22

Not voting: DocPotter
20 alive, 11 to lynch.

[farside22]

@Pom: I can never be sure if your scum or town when you post stuff like 346 and 349. It just hurts my head to no end that through your read you still find Richard scummier then others you mentioned.

[Seraphim]

Why does it seem like Pomegranate is just jumping on an easy wagon? Subsequent rereads takes Richard as more of a VI than scum...

[Sando]

Poms point about BV treating Espeonage as town is a good one though.

Farside, I'm not saying that scum don't do that (so do town btw), I'm just concerned that Espeonage worked him into a catch-22, where if he voted, it was only because of pressure, if he didn't, it was more flip-flopping.

Sera's last post makes me think attempting a derail, attacks Richard, get's on the BW but quickly has someone else they'd like to vote, but still wants to pressure Richard. Eventually jumps off the Richard wagon, despite Richard continuing to do what Sera thought needed pressure, then once off the wagon criticises people joining a 'VI wagon'.

[Pomegranate]

Why does it seem like Pomegranate is just jumping on an easy wagon? Subsequent rereads takes Richard as more of a VI than scum...

I've played with him before, and he didn't act like this at all. Also, I'd say that bv is the most popular wagon right now.

[Seraphim]

I just feel like Richard is exhibiting VI behavior. Also, my feelings towards the wagon are influenced by the fact that my major suspect(bv) in on there along with a few other players I have questionable reads on.

Richard: summarize your play so far in the game in five words or less.

Also, why is Faraday scum?

[Seraphim]

Why does it seem like Pomegranate is just jumping on an easy wagon? Subsequent rereads takes Richard as more of a VI than scum...

I've played with him before, and he didn't act like this at all. Also, I'd say that bv is the most popular wagon right now.

Richard wagon: seven votes.

bv310 wagon: five votes.

I'd support either if deadline hit but that's two weeks away. Also, looking back, I missed him(Richard) using meta to defend himself which is terrible...I still like my vote though.

[Pomegranate]

Why does it seem like Pomegranate is just jumping on an easy wagon? Subsequent rereads takes Richard as more of a VI than scum...

I've played with him before, and he didn't act like this at all. Also, I'd say that bv is the most popular wagon right now.

Richard wagon: seven votes.

bv310 wagon: five votes.

I'd support either if deadline hit but that's two weeks away. Also, looking back, I missed him(Richard) using meta to defend himself which is terrible...I still like my vote though.

Yes, I guess you're right with the numbers like that, but in recent posts more people have voted bv than Richard. More recent votes are on Richard.

[RichardGHP]

Richard: summarize your play so far in the game in five words or less.

Terrible, horrible, idiotic, anger-inducing.

Is that what you wanted to hear?

Also, why is Faraday scum?

The way he voted me.

[DocPotter]

Mod, due to some unexpected changes in my personal life lessoning my available time, I'd better replace out.

[Sando]

I just feel like Richard is exhibiting VI behavior. Also, my feelings towards the wagon are influenced by the fact that my major suspect(bv) in on there along with a few other players I have questionable reads on.

It's the lead up to this, not the statement. As I stated, it looks like a crafted derail. Join the wagon as a supporter, and get off it as momentum builds to derail it. Statements like 'I'd like to jump onto BV but pressure needs to be put on Richard', then leaving the wagon without actually getting a sufficient response.

It looks like you were waiting for an opportune moment to move off the wagon to try and derail it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sando seems to be trying really hard to find scum, as opposed to most of everyone else. Strange.

[Sando]

So, uh, Anon, you don't think Over-reaction is a tell?

From SWN II http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... &start=250

explain why you dont think he is scummy after:
- Overreacting to 5 votes. Really?

and

Scumbags are more likely to overreact to a nonexistent pressure because they are paranoid of being supected/lynched. So yeah, its a scumtell.

First is post 253, second is 337.

Had a change of heart on over-reaction as a scumtell I see...

[Papa Zito]

ABR, is farside scum?

[farside22]

So, uh, Anon, you don't think Over-reaction is a tell?

From SWN II http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... &start=250

explain why you dont think he is scummy after:
- Overreacting to 5 votes. Really?

and

Scumbags are more likely to overreact to a nonexistent pressure because they are paranoid of being supected/lynched. So yeah, its a scumtell.

First is post 253, second is 337.

Had a change of heart on over-reaction as a scumtell I see...

And this is before Anon criticized my comments about Richards comments?
Oh look Anon was town in that game. What does that mean here I wonder.

Richard/bv/Anon scum team.

[quote="richard]The way he voted me. [/quote]

Nothing OMGUS about this at all.

[Patrick]

Seeking a replacement for DocPotter.

[Porochaz]

Doubt Ill be round till Monday

[Patrick]

CryMeARiver replaces DocPotter, with the understanding that he's busy until Sunday.

[Pomegranate]

@Mod: This was posted in the Ban Announcement Thread on the 28th of February:

CryMeARiver and MrCrowley are banned from signing up for Mafia games for a month.

So I don't think that he can replace in for a few more days.

[Patrick]

Oh, now I understand what he meant by probation, lol. That seems like a fair number of days left still, so someone else might replace DocPotter instead.

Edit: Looking for another replacement for DocPotter.

[Pomegranate]

It's just that something very similar to this happened in a different game I'm playing.

[RichardGHP]

Richard

Farady/bv/

Anon

______ scum team.

The way he voted me.

Nothing OMGUS about this at all.

You are correct. That was not an OMGUS vote.

OMGUS: Oh My God, You Suck. The act of voting someone purely on the basis that they are voting you. My vote on Faraday was not because of him voting me, it's how he voted me, which can not be called OMGUS.

[curiouskarmadog]

Updating from page 12 (fyi) most likely the majority of my meater posts are going to come on the weekends.

Okay I did an iso on Richard in the game that CKD brought up.

did you read the whole game, or just the Day 1 wagon?

I was beaten by goddamn Empking by letting him lurk and not policy lynching his ass early. I'm not letting that happen again.

I understand both sides of the the lurker conversation. That being said, i know exactly where PZ is coming from. I have been beaten by scumlurkers far to often as of late. So if I am ever to get into a position where I am not getting a read on anyone...my vote will be on a lurker.

Like Sera’s post in 294, reading BV’s post in order is interesting.

reading the Anon/farside arguement. tempted to vote Anon, on a vibe. anon what kind of reaction were you trying to get form farside? What reaction would you have deemed scummy? town? How did she fair? Also, why post that you were going to stop posting(ie logging off)? Why not just log off?

I dont plan to get reactions on people when I ask questions. I evaluate the answers I get. Right now, farside is giving me mixed vibes. Ive seen her doing this with magnus in an ongoing game where they are both dead and town but Ive also seen her doing this as scum with Yosarian in the game I mentioned. Im also prob biased by omgus. What do you think of her?

I am confused by this post then.

Look, farside, Im asking questions and pushing you to get reactions from you.?

Was your plan to get reactions or not? Not sure about farside, it has been awhile since we have played together…jury is still out day 1.

bv, what do you think of the case I've made on you? Can you explain your waffling?

I also would like to know this and why he didnt comment on your earlier post.

As of right now, yes.

Unvote, Vote: RichardGHP

uhhhh? Sera prodded you to this vote? Would you have voted him if Sera had not prodded?

So, if you thought Richard was scum previous to this, why didn't you vote him?

lol, Sera, i like the way you think

I can't take the hypocrisy much longer.

going to flake?..if so replace out now.

Espeonage, you're the 4th on BV I believe.

Richard:

You get voted, over-react
You get voted again, over-react again.
You get voted yet again, you get angry, go into hiding
You get called out for hiding, you come out and claim it was a gambit

I didn't attack the fact that you provided content, but what the content was.

And no, you're still not scumhunting.

I liked you till this post. Are you saying that over reacting is scummy? Little back story...I tend to get real angry when I play this game, and am constantly labeled "Overreacting scum", by scum...keep that in mind when you answer the question.

CryMeARiver replaces DocPotter, with the understanding that he's busy until Sunday.

this is bullshit...I almost want to replace out on principle...you going to cheat this game? Any Alts here yours that we need to know about?

@Mod: This was posted in the Ban Announcement Thread on the 28th of February:

CryMeARiver and MrCrowley are banned from signing up for Mafia games for a month.

So I don't think that he can replace in for a few more days.

LOL, yeah this...I was in that game.

+++++

So much smoke and whistles from Farside and Anon, yet they are voting the same person. I don’t like Esp or Pom’s vote. Never seen ABR this useless. There are a ton of lurkers….so much to go on.

I think Richard is a bad wagon…I think Richard is a bad player and again I reinstate he make perfect Vig foder.

I don’t like BV’s play or reaction type vote

Unvote,
Vote BV

[Pomegranate]

Weekly V/LA.

[farside22]

did you read the whole game, or just the Day 1 wagon?

I just read about 8 of his post in isolation. I haven't had more time to read things lately. i would assume that was just day 1.

As for Anon it could be he doesn't trust me do to PYP4. But seriously my scum game was not that good. I screwed up and failed by day 2. I also had some suspicion thrown my way day 1 do to my play so I'm not getting his views completely. Some of his post look to be purposely misreprestating. And obviously I goaded him by mentioning that I usually see him more active.