Mini 950: DCI Mafia (The Results Are In...)

[Nachomamma8]

/confirm

/refuse to answer questions on the grounds I'm lazy as hell.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: animorpherv1

For the weak FoS comboed with a failure to vote change. Isn't my being the only person to refuse to answer your random questions a better reason than the one behind your random vote? If not, why the FoS?

[Nachomamma8]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a ani lynch... If deadline was in a little bit, it'd be our best choice.

Parama, moral high ground? Also, I'm pretty sure I'm not the one reaching for reasons to vote here.

[Nachomamma8]

Continue it by responding?

[Nachomamma8]

Parama, moral high ground? Also, I'm pretty sure I'm not the one reaching for reasons to vote here.

In other words, what moral high ground am I taking? Why am I "reaching for reasons"?

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote: NavyCherub

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote: animorpherv1

[Nachomamma8]

Also, I'm pretty sure I'm not the one reaching for reasons to vote here.

There's my commentary on the wagon.

As for my vote, it explains itself. If you don't get it, look closer...

[Nachomamma8]

Starbuck, are you fully aware you are voting Parama because you disagree with his playstyle? Are you also aware of the fact that you FoSed someone because they disagreed with you?

Did anyone else notice Ani's active lurking?

Nik, I like your vote. But there are more glorious wagons to be had, wouldn't you agree?

Also, NavyCherub is being painfully protown at the moment. Starbuck, Ani, kink, Looker, and muh are not.

[Nachomamma8]

There are too many lurkers in this game to scumhunt effectively.

Nacho is not a fan of this statement. This statement is a cop out. There's currently 7 pages of posting with some pretty informative/telling posts tossed in here and there. If people aren't posting, vote for them and ask them questions. Don't complain and say there's no way to scumhunt and then disappear. You're one of the lurkers too, you know.

[Nachomamma8]

Mod: Request Ani prod.

Town: Request Ani lynch

CryMeARiver: Request content

[Nachomamma8]

In your mind, they're both scum.

In my mind, steph has a possibility of being town.

So... we'll still be lynching scum; you'll just be giving me a little bit of time to see what you're seeing.

[Nachomamma8]

@Starbuck: I have experience with Ani town, and I've read games with AniScum. The over-seriousness with the RQS combined with a failure to do anything else with a side of posting everywhere else BUT here suggests AniScum. What's making you disagree? Also, I think everyone's understood your case on Parama, so you can stop presenting it now. More than one scum read is good.

Navy, what makes you think Slaxxx/Parama scum? Who more? Why? Why not together?

Nico, I see reads, but I don't see how you're working to develop them...

[Nachomamma8]

Starbuck, if I told you I knew all the scum in this game, would you believe me? Would you take me seriously?

[Nachomamma8]

Starbuck, is it not a valid question?

Ani, I replaced into games where you've replaced out; most notably, Teleportation mafia.

[Nachomamma8]

I admit, I am ani's buddy. Townbuddies stick together.

Explain this, please.

CMAR: Your case is made less valid because of the general atmosphere of apathy yesterday. I do agree with the hypocrisy point though. I'd like for him to voice his opinion on Parama when he comes back, though.

Vote: Nicodemus

[Nachomamma8]

I admit, I am ani's buddy. Townbuddies stick together.

Explain this, please.

CMAR: Your case is made less valid because of the general atmosphere of apathy yesterday. I do agree with the hypocrisy point though. I'd like for him to voice his opinion on Parama when he comes back, though.

Vote: Nicodemus

Not really apathetic, more V/LA a lot and many other things going on. As well as quite a few other games. Sorry for that.

I wasn't just referring to you, don't worry
I was referring to the town as a whole.

[Nachomamma8]

Meta can go die in a ditch. What do you two think of Nico?

[Nachomamma8]

Because we're going in circles and I'm waiting for a victor to clamber out of this bloody, vicious circle. This is just one, big, ugly diversion.

So could either of you tell me why the other one's scummy without using the word "meta" or "hypocrisy"? Thank you.

[Nachomamma8]

Mod: Starbuck, Kunkstar, CMAR, and Nico all need prods. Make it happen.

RE: Navy ISO: Out of everyone, I think it incriminates you and Slaxx the most; in fact, you even bringing it up makes me feel a bit more suspicious of you. Why? Well, mafia is ALWAYS hesitant to kill people who have them as their number one suspect. Rarely, however, are they nervous about killing someone who just happens to be their second suspect, especially if they are suspect someone else far more.

If kunkscum wanted to kill someone who suspected him, then it'd be a far better idea to kill Slaxx, no?

[Nachomamma8]

So? In ISO 16, Navy practically comes outright and says that he was going to lynch you today...

[Nachomamma8]

Speaking of V/LAs, I'll have one of those until Wednesday...

Noted. - ToD

[Nachomamma8]

I'm back.

Unvote, Vote: Nikanor

[Nachomamma8]

So, kunk. Nikanor's miller claim gives you a townier read on him, then?

[Nachomamma8]

I vote we popcorn massclaim our regiments first, and see if anything interesting arises from that. Kunk would start in that scenario. Then yes, we'll no lynch.

[Nachomamma8]

Kunk got it. So no more discussion until Steph claims, please.

[Nachomamma8]

Nicodemus, claim next. Role not flavor.

[Nachomamma8]

CMAR, go ahead and go on your vacation. Relax. Get some girls

If you're scum, you're probably going to be dead before you come back.
If you're town... Nothing to worry about, eh? Papa Nacho will kill those bad scum for ya.

[Nachomamma8]

CMAR, go ahead and go on your vacation. Relax. Get some girls

If you're scum, you're probably going to be dead before you come back.
If you're town... Nothing to worry about, eh? Papa Nacho will kill those bad scum for ya.

[Nachomamma8]

CMAR, go ahead and go on your vacation. Relax. Get some girls

If you're scum, you're probably going to be dead before you come back.
If you're town... Nothing to worry about, eh? Papa Nacho will kill those bad scum for ya.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, in the original proposal you said just claim regiments. Are we claiming role only or regiments only, or both?

Regiments. Thanks for the catch...

[Nachomamma8]

I'm from the Blue Stars. We're a Class II who recently got promoted to Class I.

And since me, Slaxx, and Nico are the only people who haven't claimed roles, we might as well popcorn massclaim, huh?

Go Slaxx.

[Nachomamma8]

VT here. And yeah, discussion should resume...now.

Steph, why aren't you voting CMAR?

[Nachomamma8]

Okay, I'm ready.

First of all, Slaxx is town.

I'm not concerned whether Kunk is scum or not, we're in MyLo and we have 2 scum left, so we're definitely not lynching the doctor. He claimed early and no one counterclaimed, which is a great sign. I believe his claim.

I'm pretty damn sure there's scum between Steph and CMAR, but I don't think both of them are scum...

Leaving Nicodemus to lynch. I haven't been comfortable with him all game, his attempt to get kunk lynched is scummy, and hes been coasting along with minimal effort. There's also the added bonus of PoE pointing to him as most likely scum, so...

Vote: Nicodemus

[Nachomamma8]

Statistically, yes. Strategically, no.

No lynching in 2-scum MyLo isn't a good idea when you still have a doctor alive, and a good idea for who is scum. If we no-lynch today, then scum can kill whoever they please without fear of doctor protects. If we lynch scum, then scum will have to kill kunk (or fear a successful doctor protect, and thus give us an extra day). In addition, it'll be better to wait until 3-1 to no-lynch; that way, we'll be able to narrow the pool even more.

[Nachomamma8]

You will be held to that time frame, strongest town read or not

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, I also have an investigation though. Assuming kunk is doc they would have to kill him anyway. So they can get to me the next day. I still think a NL is better so I can get another investigation, Unless there is a roleblocker which I guess is a possibility.

Nope, scum can also kill you today, hoping to out-wifom kunk. And if they miss a protection, they don't lose anything at all. Also, I'm guessing there's a roleblocker; that would explain Nic pushing the kunk lynch based on nothing but WIFOM. It would also explain why they kept Kunk alive all this time...

How is stating blatant truths scummy? Why would scum not kill the doctor, other than the fact that the doctor is scum himself?

Because they had him effectively neutered with a roleblocker and wanted to get him lynched on WIFOM...?

Unfortunately, you're a strong town read of mine, so I can't really attack you for this logic, but it's still troubling.

I don't like this. You shouldn't hold a player in your mind to be confirmed town when they're not, ever.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, I thought you wanted a no lynch at the start of the day? What changed your mind?

You, dear fellow. You've been playing fairly pro-town thus far, and now that you're a powerrole, you're not exactly someone I want the scum to be able to kill and get off scot-free for it.

Nacho, last game where I was scum and you were town, you were extremely reluctant to believe almost any PR claim. I know mine was bad (lol) but even Peanut's (which was fairly believable I thought, maybe it was from my perspective) you were reluctant to believe. How come you seemed to accept my cop claim so quickly? In addition, kunk's doc claim seemed to please you as well.

Let's see... I didn't believe Raider's vig claim because there was one person who got killed N1, and it happened to be almost everyone's top town read. Didn't believe Peanut's because he was seeming pretty scummy to me at that time, and I had never seen a Paranoid Gun Owner before, but I had seen scum fakeclaim it. I believed your copclaim because of two reasons. 1) You had a really copish reaction to the miller claim, and 2) There's a miller, and a miller without a cop is a bit bastardish. I'm believe kunk only because doctor is such a common role; he claimed fairly early, and he wasn't counterclaimed yet. That doesn't mean I believe him just yet, but it means that it lends him enough cred for me to lynch someone else today.

@CMAR, yes or no question. Do you see a pattern in how the flavor is written?

[Nachomamma8]

@Nacho: Were you not expecting any additional power roles to claim? I mean obviously with the miller you thought there would be a cop. So shouldn't you of expected a cop claim regardless and therefore pushed for the lynch?

I didn't actually think that far ahead. My mind only really made the connection AFTER you claimed, so...

Oh nacho, I will repeat this question since you might not have caught it, but do you think there is any sort of possibility that Steph/CMAR are bussing?

Yeah, I do. But Nic's scumminess overwhelms both of theirs, so...

[Nachomamma8]

Is anyone else seeing how EVERYONE's role PM flavor as well as the sample PM flavors are about the drum group itself while his is like an online dating ad? Lynch him please

I have both band flavor, and personal flavor. From the way you say this, you're acting like you don't. Is my assumption false, and if not, why would you say this?

[Nachomamma8]

I find that it makes him appear more town, actually. I don't see scum posting a type of flavor that no one else even mentioned that they had...

[Nachomamma8]

@ToD: Amazing link.

[Nachomamma8]

And why are you putting so much faith in flavor analysis...?

[Nachomamma8]

Can't wait
I'll post my two scumspects with cases after Steph does what I called him out on and Nico/Steph answer Slaxx's questions.

Why wait?

[Nachomamma8]

Well, sorry I have limited access. Implying me scum without posting a case is noted, however.

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, now.