He looked more reactionary yesterday I think whereas today he looks like he might actually get Sando on a point. But now I look back he doesnt seem to have actually made points today just creating a whole lot of noise. What areJavert wrote:As far as I recall, dybeck was pressing on Sando yesterday, too. What is different about him today?boberz wrote:First ever prod I do apologise everyone.
Still need to go back and work out what I had on Dybeck. He has improved today however and is actually pressing for weak points in Sando for example.
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Bussed a scummate that he'd been previously been defending on Day 1, killed off a claimed powerrole whose claim he said he believed, along with my previous points about his playstyle yesterday... seems as good an idea as any.boberz wrote:
He looked more reactionary yesterday I think whereas today he looks like he might actually get Sando on a point. But now I look back he doesnt seem to have actually made points today just creating a whole lot of noise. What areJavert wrote:
As far as I recall, dybeck was pressing on Sando yesterday, too. What is different about him today?boberz wrote:First ever prod I do apologise everyone.
Still need to go back and work out what I had on Dybeck. He has improved today however and is actually pressing for weak points in Sando for example.yourpoints dybeck.Eeny. Meeny. Miney. Vote.- Albert B. Rampage
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My bad - am confusing scum with each other. Should have been "killed off a claimed powerrole who he had previously said was worth leaving alive.", which clearly is a much less heinous crime.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Excuse me dybek, where did you say Sando said he believed the hider claim?dybeck wrote:killed off a claimed powerrole whose claim he said he believedEeny. Meeny. Miney. Vote.- Albert B. Rampage
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I'm sorry who are you confusing me with? I don't recall anyone both believing the claim and voting for her?dybeck wrote:
My bad - am confusing scum with each other. Should have been "killed off a claimed powerrole who he had previously said was worth leaving alive.", which clearly is a much less heinous crime.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Excuse me dybek, where did you say Sando said he believed the hider claim?dybeck wrote:killed off a claimed powerrole whose claim he said he believed- dybeck
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I'm sorry who are you confusing me with? I don't recall anyone both believing the claim and voting for her?dybeck wrote:
My bad - am confusing scum with each other. Should have been "killed off a claimed powerrole who he had previously said was worth leaving alive.", which clearly is a much less heinous crime.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Excuse me dybek, where did you say Sando said he believed the hider claim?dybeck wrote:killed off a claimed powerrole whose claim he said he believedEeny. Meeny. Miney. Vote.- Faraday
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There are a couple of things I don't undestand about Espy's vote here.
Why is this the first time you've made an opinion on Nick?Espeonage wrote:I like case Seraphim made
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Non-conventional yet still clearly shows how Nick's actions are scummy. I see the case and agree with it.
What about the case is non-conventional to you?
Do you agree with all of it?
About the Nick case points:
I feel like the suspicions towards ABR are justified given Rampage's playstyle, but I don't think it means he's more likely to be scum if he sings songs about how confident he is in someone's scumminess, etc.
Nick's bizarre attack on farside is something I've tried to unravel since early day 1. I can't get on the same page with him. I don't know why, but it keeps going to a dead-end. So I've just gotten over it.
The instance of unhelpful play justifies some attention and pressure, but I don't think its scummy unless Nick had a lapse of judgment and didn't see how an obviously anti-town ignoring would look obviously anti-town. I think scum are more aware of avoiding those kinds of things in more scripted responses.
The first WIFOM defense looked normal given the context, which was the timing of his switch. I still don't understand why he made the switch when he did, but it doesn't really make logical sense as scum so I gotta back off that point. The second WIFOM is unreliable at this time because he thought she was lying town. Even though he didn't really explain that point, he never indicated she was scum.
The strange roleclaim looks like an alignment claim, but still unnecessary.
His opinion about Pom's claim being a lie did ping something from me. I still don't understand how he could balance thinking Pom was a cop with the situation she was in and not claiming cop. That is still an unknown on him. But setting up ABR's lynch looks like another example of reacting to ABR's personality, so null tell for that.
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pretty sure he is scum. I'm not as sure about Sando I could see a few things on him that I don't like but I keep asking myself would scum stick their neck out like that day 1.
I do know I didn't like how he said we should be lynching Richard but then votes for bv. It just rubbed me really wrong.
Esp is just voting along. I didn't like his vote on bv at the time and he's just following a long. I call this the flying under the radar scum tactic.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.- Amished
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Agreed.Faraday wrote:Espeonage wrote:
You're wrong on both counts. Even if I were scum, how would that clear Nick?Amished wrote:Yup. Esp is also scum, Nick is town.Vote EspeonageI'd be so fucking shocked if this post came from ANYONE but scum.
Still like the Sando lynch (what has he done that hints that he's even town?) and the dybeck/Esp. lynch.
Agree with Jah that Nick still looks town
@Espy: Because you're scum, I expect you to ultimately go for mislynches. Since Sando was gaining traction, and you vote for Nick it both implicates Sando as your partner and tells me that Nick isn't part of your scum team.
ABR, we'll get to dybeck soon. Come back where the fire is warm and toastyI'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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pretty sure he is scum. I'm not as sure about Sando I could see a few things on him that I don't like but I keep asking myself would scum stick their neck out like that day 1.
I do know I didn't like how he said we should be lynching Richard but then votes for bv. It just rubbed me really wrong.
Esp is just voting along. I didn't like his vote on bv at the time and he's just following a long. I call this the flying under the radar scum tactic.- Espeonage
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Farside, how did Sando stick his neck out day 1?
I know he was calling out the people "derailing" the Richard wagon, but I saw that as trying to shift momentum away from the BV wagon. And he still managed to vote BV before deadline. If his suspicions for both were similar, like he claimed, I don't see how he would dedicate his BV vote post to arguing for a Richard lynch.
So do you think he's in a different scum faction than BV? Because I think his vote was early enough and with no signs of leaving to make bussing seem ridiculous. And he had a chance to switch to Richard but didn't.farside22 wrote:Esp is just voting along. I didn't like his vote on bv at the time and he's just following a long. I call this the flying under the radar scum tactic. - Jahudo
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