Of Gods And Men (GAME OVER!)

[CryMeARiver]

Holy shit look at this player list, wow, where to begin?

Vote: Nikanor

Policy vote (plus you failed at math)

[CryMeARiver]

Vote: Nikanor

[CryMeARiver]

Blah, look, I've already screwed up.

vote: Tar

inb4 doublevote speculation

WHAT? YOU DOUBLE VOTED TAR?! hehe

[CryMeARiver]

I love this game already.

Hurp durp of course, I'm in it.

Oh.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Might Orbots is a Papa Zito/Zorblag hydra, in case anyone wasn't aware. Also, if you can't tell which one of us is posting plz have your head examined kthx.

Bandwagon gogogo.

Fail. CMAR bandwagon is the obv Tar counterwagon.

You spelled fail wrong (phail, duh)
Oh no! I feel so threatened!
inb4someseriousshittyassplayercomesinandruinsallthefun

[CryMeARiver]

Oh no! I feel so threatened!
inb4someseriousshittyassplayercomesinandruinsallthefun

You rang?

Vote: CryMeARiver

Question to DTMaster and Ortolan: do you know why were you both added to the game? Were you recruited by a specific faction?

Fun killer

Everyone knows you're either Cult, Doc, or Mafia Strongman, just give it up

[CryMeARiver]

Vote: DarkStalker

[CryMeARiver]

I must say I'm tempted to vote for Elscouta. The contradiction between his location and his signature is glaring at me.

I don't see what you are meaning by that.

>.>

<.<

Maybe that you are a mayor (scum) and saying your town?
Or maybe he's racist, my vote stays

[CryMeARiver]

Vote: DarkStalker

PLEASE ALSO SAY WHO YOUR VOTE IS *ACTUALLY* FOR WHEN YOU VOTE. FAILING TO DO SO CREATES UNNECESSARY CONFUSION.

@ all.

For Nikanor

[CryMeARiver]

Setup speculation time...how many scum do you think there are?

Scum? 27

[CryMeARiver]

Wow, shit, this will be a fun reread

[CryMeARiver]

Look, I'm really sorry I haven't given this game as much attention as I would have liked to have guys. But I'm not gonna wimp out and replace out. Expect content soon.

[CryMeARiver]

Can't exactly mae a content post right now, I'm on a small phone, but I sent my worship vote for the Egyptians based on a piece of info that mr mod sent me with my pm and the fact that I was a town role.

[CryMeARiver]

Holy shat, I get it guys, my content IS COMING TOMORROW.
Sigh

[CryMeARiver]

Ok, you can try to lynch me, heck, mafia can even try to kill me, but I can only die one way, and I kind of control that, so have fun trying to get rid of me. And no, I'm not third party, but rather important to the town.
To all of Iec's suspicion, yes, I have been more insincere in this game and, while it doesn't quite fit my town meta, it definitely doesn't fit my scum meta if you check any of my scum games. It just fits my "struggling to keep up" meta. So I agree with an Orto lynch, even though he probably, like me, is just struggling to keep up. Isn't this fun guys?

Vote: CMAR

YAY! MY FIRST EVER SELF VOTE!

[CryMeARiver]

=_=
wrong format, wrong target
seriously CMAR.

Vote: CMAR

wrong target?

[CryMeARiver]

Thing is, I'm not joking, you can try to lynch me if you want, good luck
Also, just received info that hey, the Old Ones aren't as bad as we thought.

[CryMeARiver]

@Iec: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13799
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13395

Generally MORE active as scum I'd say

[CryMeARiver]

Caaaaan you feeeeeel the looooooove toniiiight?

Thing is, I'm not joking, you can try to lynch me if you want, good luck
Also, just received info that hey, the Old Ones aren't as bad as we thought.

I'd love to call this bluff. But I want more dead Chronos.

You "just" received info? You're an unkillable information role? lol?

If calling my bluff means trying to lynch me, you can go right ahead and do that
No, I'm not an information role to that degree, I just clarified something with the mod.

@CMAR
I don't see it. Then we have CMAR soft claiming immortal.

Dude, if you are seriously town immortal, don't soft claim it. It's like saying you're SK, and scum shouldn't shoot you. I'd rather see you soft claim doctor, and soak in the scum kills at night if you're unkillable, unlynchable, blah blah blah. Totally defeats the purpose of that role from a town angle.

No, no, no, normally I would have done that. But not in this game. And I have reason for EVERYTHING I do. Trust me, it's better to get it out of the way on Day 1.

DTM, I agree that CMAR (and dramonic for that matter) are guiltier of ignoring this game than ort. But for the record, this is exactly how ortolan acted (throwing a temper tantrum over being lynched for "personal" reasons and resorting to ad hominems) in Gonzo.

Vote me then. The only reason I'd disagree with it is it takes away a chance to lynch scum for the town, but heck, it proves me innocent

i also agree that CMAR is scummier than ort. CMAR is actively lurking, while ort seems forgotten it. and i don't believe that claim.

vote: Albatross (CMAR)

dramonic seems like playing with his scum meta. i'll check it to see if i recall right.

Just keep lynching, lynching, lynching
But, you're wrong. It's the other way around. See, I have more posts, and most of them came at the very beginning. He has 4 posts, and they are spread out to include the entire game. Hence, I forgot and he's the lurker.

What in the hell is this?

I'm sorry. I like Ort. However, ignoring a game, coming in and blaming the players for noticing and then picking up your ball and going home does not a derail make.

Ort hangs. CMAR can get shot. Or dealt with later.

Shoot me for all I care It will be a wasted shot

[CryMeARiver]

CMAR, we can just lynch you again from Limbo. You realize that right? And you may have more posts but they're just as vapid.

Woo, I like that word. Vapid. I need to use that one more.

I'm gonna jump the gun here a bit. Troll can chastise me later. Mina, we're still looking forward to the ABR post.

unvote: manho

(Chronopie)

vote: CMAR

(Ort)

No, we don't reward temper tantrums. Sorry.

P.S. Someone shoot Chrono for me TIA.

Not planning on going to Limbo

[CryMeARiver]

I'd love to see in what world this play helps town. If you'd just claimed third party sure but this mess makes me angry.

If you are referring to me, my play is not meant to be antitown. My play is based on my role. I would have preferred being the test lynch on D1, but it's all fine.

[CryMeARiver]

The Endless

Night...

A role cop investigation was concluded on SpyreX after the night phase. The results show that she was Delight.

Hehehe. I love double meanings. Or maybe it's called the endless night because it took forever and a day to end.

Anyway, I got nothin'. It doesn't look like ort knew he was unlynchable yesterday. :/

Endless = GOO
Whoever stole my unkillability from me better fess up

[CryMeARiver]

Whoever stole my unkillability from me better fess up

Do you mean this literally or metaphorically?

Literally showing that my unkillability is now different from what I thought it was before. I doubt someone actually took it.

[CryMeARiver]

WAIT CMAR CAN BE LYNCHED NOW?
GAHAHAHAHA

Quasi-vote: CMAR.

I don't really want to vote him because I don't think that CMAR would claim losing his unlynchability as scum.

Actually, I can't be lynched

today

, but it's different nevertheless
Why is he not the GF Tar?

[CryMeARiver]

I collected the promised information last night. Now I have some good news and some bad news.

What do you want to hear first?

Good news

[CryMeARiver]

The bad news is that we are dealing with a cult. A "modified cult", to be specific; whatever that means. I suspect this cult is what Spyrex called the Endless.

And it appears that they have recruited last night because there are now 4 neutrals in the game.

There are 15 town, 4 neutrals and 6 scum in this game. Among these players currently in the game, there are 5 alignments in total. That means that besides the town and the mafia, we are dealing with a modified lyncher (likely Tar and DTM), the aforementioned modified cult, and a "modified survivor".

The good news is that if there are only 4 neutrals at the moment, the cult didn't succeed in recruiting anyone yesterday if you do the math.

There was a pause between writing the two parts of this post when I was on the phone. Which led me to a momentary lapse. Ignore the striked phrase.

I have information suggesting the Endless are town oriented.

[CryMeARiver]

Hmm...everybody votes CMAR with the intention to lynch Ortolan, the day ends in a no-lynch and CMAR claims to have lost his unlynchability...I wonder if this is all connected or if it is just coincindence. Can't wait to hear from FlipScythe.

I would also like to hear why Snow_bunny shot spyex.

I didn't

lose

it per se, it was a misunderstanding of some sort :p
Iec: Why did you say we should worship the Egyptians after thinking that Egyptian Set (SK) was scum? The Old Ones just gave a protown benefit, why not continue to worship them?

[CryMeARiver]

^ I say why in the same post. I'm operating on the assumption that the factions are roughly balanced to start. Given that, scum deaths in a faction increase the ratio of town benefit to scum benefit when said faction has worship.

If SK was actually town (and we'll know after the day ends, so we can submit worship knowing her alignment for certain), then it probably becomes best to worship either Angels or Norse.

And if there is reason to believe that said balance did not exist, that's a whole separate issue.

I still don't understand why not the Old Ones when they seemingly are aiding us...

[CryMeARiver]

1. Don't forget the red color, dram.
2. I'm pretty sure he said I was town right after I published the Sky saga D1. He also changed his mind on Mina around the same time IIRC. SK being town D2 is because MO claimed a result.
3. I can't remember your other examples, but the fact that you listed all of these as examples of an (implicitly) unexplained/scummy flip-flop when new information clearly informed at least those 3 implies not thinking carefully or deliberately inflating any conceivable case against ooba.

1. right, thanks
2. he never stated to have changed his mind on you and his second to last post implies HEAVILY that he'd want to lynch Mina

You messed up Iece, big time.

Unvote
Vote: Iecerint

Agreed

Vote: Iecrint

scummy scum scum
The fact that all the kills were accounted for by people and the killers are off scotch free also isn't a good thing.

[CryMeARiver]

EBWOP: Actually, only Tar's actions/alignment is really confirmed. S_B is fucking not confirmed. :p But claiming the kill is weird.

So you are suggesting that all of the kills last night, all of which were claimed, were town kills and mafia did nothing?

[CryMeARiver]

My god, these walls suck. I have been reading and rereading massively due to these walls. Walls are antitown, stop it unless absolutely necessary. It is vey demoralizing to analyze one wall after the other.

Vote: Ooba

Ooba feels more like scum here. I've seen him play both(Victorian Vamp, Greek Mythology), Ooba Scum tries very hard to be consistent, however slips up sometimes. Ooba town is VERY consistent.

Did you just meta vote on page 48? You have no opinion at all?

@S_B: Did you feel SpyreX was scummy or no?

[CryMeARiver]

EBWOP: Actually, only Tar's actions/alignment is really confirmed. S_B is fucking not confirmed. :p But claiming the kill is weird.

So you are suggesting that all of the kills last night, all of which were claimed, were town kills and mafia did nothing?

And you're neglecting the possibility of the Mafia ramming their kill into a doctor protection or bulletproof shield WHY, exactly?

Unvote, Vote: CMAR

, both because I want to give you some time to answer and because I'm not yet sure whether you're worth unloading a kill into.

Because 3 kills all town sided seems highly unlikely to me. Is that okay?

Yeah I'll be voting Old Godsx2

x2 comes from...?

Nikanor shouldn't have been voting for Mina JUST to get some sort of magical information, he should vote for her because he thinks she's scum.

Don't like this statement. It's pretty much about scum going after people for something that looks town, but actually isn't a valid case. In this, Katy is narrowly defining a "reason" why townies should vote, and then attacking anyone who doesn't fit that definition.

SB: Answer my question

[CryMeARiver]

The voices in my head keep talking. I try to ignore them, I really do, but they are so persuasive.
They say that Chrono's fishing on manho's double vote was not good.
They say that Dram might not be so scummy after all.
They say that checking out the ooba wagon based on that almost perfect flip should be happening.
They say that Iec moves up the scumlist --> MO's massclaim idea isn't TERRIBLE and if Iec is scum, it means they don't have awesome fakeclaims.
They say chrono is town and if he dies any doc claims should be lynched.
They say that SnowBunny seriously needs to die among many reasons, sniping at Chrono. They command her death for a stupid NK after "rereading". He needs to die post-haste.
They say I should push the massclaim today.
They say Blaze needs to post more, he's 80% mafia, and that he needs to die. NOW

Vote: Blaze

They say that DTM needs to STFU and think about what he's saying.
AHHHHHHHHH Yeah, look at that boredom flavor while summarizing the game.

[CryMeARiver]

Whoop whoop for worshiping the Old Gods!

[CryMeARiver]

CMAR, how are we sure we'll get the same results voting the same people every time?

Oh, IDK, I just like it when people vote the Old Guys personally

[CryMeARiver]

Ok, I have made a decision and I will shoot down one of the following:

Dramonic
CMAR
totallynotmafia
Fate
manho
Albatross
Percy's replacement
rajrhcpfreak
DS

Popular choice the list, personal choice the target.

Don't bother wasting your shot on me, must I constantly remind you?
By the way, a list of 10 people to fucking shoot isn't fucking helpful at all.

[CryMeARiver]

@Iecerint, understood and thanks for checking. Just let us know if anyone does answer and doesn't want to come out with the information in the game thread on their own. Actually for the most part (as long as we get the information eventually) it's fine if there's not an answer to the vote thing to tomorrow. It shouldn't help anything till then at the earliest anyhow.

@CryMeARiver, while it is true that Snow_Bunny's list is about twice as large as I'd like it to be I don't strongly object to anyone on it as a potential target. Also, for the record, are you claiming at this point that you can't be killed at night at this point? The last we seemed to get from you was that you were wrong about your kill immunity in some way but that you weren't lynchable today.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

You cannot kill me tonight.

[CryMeARiver]

CMAR was unlynchable AND unkillable.

CAN WE LYNCH IT YET?


BTW I'd like to remind the crowd that CMAR's terribad lurking D1 was excused by:"IT HAS TO DO WITH MY ROLE I SWEAR!"

Well if you were trying to draw the NK you failed pretty horrible. All you would've drawn is a vig (if SnowBunny didn't kill fuckin Spyrex)

Since we're all claiming worshiping and stuff (ooba has secretz) my Worship counts for double a normal mortals.

JUST SO YOU KNOW

I don't want to draw the night kill for reasons hidden to you.

[CryMeARiver]

@CryMeARiver, would you care to share anything about why you've got these kill immunities at this point? They confuse me and if you've got them I'm not sure how a claim could hurt you. Also, is there any chance that you were responsible for ortolan not getting killed by a lynch yesterday?

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

I am not responsible for Ortolan's not dying. I have no information on this.
I have received these kill immunities based on my role. Yes, I have them, but a claim will hurt me because I won't necessarily always have them.
If you have specific questions on my role, direct them towards me and they should be answered.

[CryMeARiver]

@CryMeARiver, why do you think that it's useful for you to stay alive at this point? Your secrecy with what you're immune to kill-wise seems to be motivated by a desire to stay alive more than anything else. If a kill attempt on you does something that hurts town other than killing you you're not doing a good job at all of convincing people not to attempt that kill as of this time so far as I can tell.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Okay, so you don't believe me? Tell SB to try and kill me tonight then Last chance since I don't think I have it tomorrow.

[CryMeARiver]

@CryMeARiver, I've already given Snow_Bunny my advice for potential kills. You are on that list. Is there a reason that you're going out of your way to be uncooperative at this point?

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Uncooperative as in not full claiming? Yes, there is a very good reason. NO SOUP FOR YOU! NEXT!

Also, CMAR is totally an unkillable unlynchable GF whose immunities run out on day three, and who can only be killed by Tar or DTM before d3.

Wow. That's ridiculous. NO SOUP FOR YOU! NEXT!

At this point in time, I can only be killed one way, and I sort of control that one way. I am not being antitown (or not trying to be) just stating my role ahead of time so I'm not OMG BULLETPROOF SK later, kind of like a miller claiming D1.

[CryMeARiver]

@CryMeARiver, telling me to try to get the vigilante to shoot you when you're also saying that it's not good for the vigilante to shoot you is certainly being uncooperative. It's like you want the town to be confused about what's going on. Whether you're intentionally being anti-town or not you're succeeding at it just fine.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

I actually said it wasn't helpful for me to receive the night kill, as in mafia kill, but either way yes, you are sort of correct. But if it proves me, by all means, go right ahead