Open 240: Mayhem Clinic- Everyone died.

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Hi.

Vote:Wingsowisdom

so he would come out.

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@drmy: Why does the thread say you haven't confirmed yet?

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so he would come out.

Come out from where? I'm not in the closet, and I've already posted.

Yes you have. Consider it RVS .

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I AM NOT, NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN, QUIET

ASK ANYONE

Looks like somebody's lying (=.

There is actually a votecount for Lonewolf? Cool

Unvote.Vote:Lonewolf

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Nik is acting funny. XS shouldn't claim and neither should Nik because we all know it's harmful to town.

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Stop rolefishing, Nik.
XScorpion needs not to claim.

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It's not just rolefishing, it's blatantly rolefishing =)).
People have lives Nik.

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o_0 ..
I can feel XScorpion has some scum mentality in his posts.
But did Nik just claim?

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Basically, because Nik's request is absurd, I think you would expect town to reply in a more aggressive manner instead of a curious manner like XScorpion did.

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You said that Robocopter could be a regular townie. If you were town, you would know that to be impossible.[/quote]

? I don't get this.

aggressive how?

As in being on fire and being accusatory at Nik. In my first and only time as scum, I was caught because I was being too measured and said the same thing as you did.

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And what if he is a regular townie and the scum doctor protects him?
Also are town compulsive vigilante's bad? why?

Yeah and further more, if you were town, how could say there is a VT because towns all know no VT exists.

Unvote.Vote:Scorpion

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But towns have reminders when they receive their roles whereas scums don't. So a scum is more likely to slip.

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Exactly. If you received a role pm saying you are the doctor, you would be reminded that all the towns are PR. Whereas if you are scum, you would have followed a habitual feeling of vanilla scum vs vanilla town.

Going to lunch and will be back to take revenge on XS for fooling me in our last game =).

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And if I'm a vig? What then?
Fooling you? I was town, you twerp!

Then you are unlikely a doctor, thus likely scum or SK.
The vengeful game. You were the godfather

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Okay, I'm back. XScorpion is probably scum. Here's why:

Exactly. If you received a role pm saying you are the

doctor

, you would be reminded that all the towns are PR. Whereas if you are scum, you would have followed a habitual feeling of vanilla scum vs vanilla town.

XS responded with:

And if I'm a vig? What then?
Fooling you? I was town, you twerp!

I specifically stated that there is a doctor and XScorpion responded without any disagreement. This proves that XScorpion has no protective role because the protective role in this game is

bodyguard, not doctor

. With 2 Vigs, 1 SK, and 3 mafias, the probability of XScorpion being scum has just increase from 33.3% to 66.7%. I say he's a good lynch for today ( muahhahaha, revenge laugh ).

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@@ Looking forward to you pointing out the stupidity in my analysis.

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Arg my prediction went wrong. And what the hell with the reasonless hammering??
I say Drmy and maybe Robo are probably scum.
@Nik: Why are we claiming? I protected Nik last night ( meaning I'm a Bodyguard ).

But the rest of the town overpowered him. They pinned him to the ground. Robocop reached into the man's pocket and found a gun. He fired three rounds into XScorpion's exposed chest.

"You, you killed him?"
"I don't know."
XScorpion bled out in all directions onto the concrete.
"Yep."

This is damn funny though

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I think I could take an educated guess of who the Vig targeted, but we'll see.

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Technically speaking, I'm right. But the result is a mislynch. What I meant when I said "my prediction went wrong" is I personally thought XScorpion has 90% chance of being scum due to his reponses to Nikanor ( my original argument against him ).
And lookie here, we already have 6 claimed Bodyguards..

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I am the other

town compulsive vig

. I targeted tanstalas last night and apparently succeeded. I chose my target completely randomly due to the lack of any content in this game. I figured a random shot was as good as any.

We have 2 liars among Nikanor, nopoint, robocopter, Shattered, shotty, WoW. One of these 6 should be our lynch today.

I am a bodyguard. I protected no one last night. I figured it would be best that I let Vigs just shoot and kill.

There was only 1 vig left since XScorp died. You realize not protecting someone is more advantageous to mafia than town (even if you choose randomly, there are more town people to protect than anti-town).

1> Any counterclaim?
2>I figured you vig-kill tantalas. But I thought because you thought he looked scummy on the XScorp's wagon.
3> It could be more than 2 out of 6 people who are liars. If there's no counterclaim to you, 4 of everyone else is lying obviously. So I don't think we should limit our options.

SV is AtE-ing. And when he AtEs he's usually scum.

Vote:ShatteredViewpoint

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L-1 STOP.
We need more info, not another quick lynch.

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Not necessarily. I just need some replies from SV and some comments on the inactives. No quick hammer, please.

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@Robo: SSBF and Sawyer haven't even spoken, not everyone has gone up for a change of mind and SV hasn't defended himself in any form it seems

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@Wolf: Can we get a prod from SSBF and Sawyer?

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Hey my Internet is back.
The plan sounds good. If no one has a better case let's just lynch SV.

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I agreed with Nik's previous plan because I read between the lines and thought it could reveal scumslip from unprotected people if they don't get killed although the plan stipulated clearly they won't be protected ( scums can't kill themselves right ). I would be less inclined to believe it could be a scum gambit if this intention was never exposed.

My vote stays on SV btw.

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Let's lynch SV and I confirm protecting Nikanor.

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Unvote right now people. If you lynch me you lose, like Scott said. Let's have some discussion going on for Wings to make his false claim shall we?

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I wondered why the scums targeted Nikanor last night ..

@To the town: To balance the power, I'll help you with lynching/killing some scums, but I will betray you at some point. However, if you wish to lynch me soon you will be overwhelmed by scums.
@To the scums: You should be careful not to spill your guts everywhere in this game and reveal your connections because I'm not gonna like a town-dominated game either.

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But wow, with 3 scums and 3 non-scum, how are we gonna be able to push a lynch on a scum?

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No actually towns, I will stick with you to the end (=.

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Please consider me your Nightkill-Immune Vig :">

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@Robo: Unless your dumb or scum, you would understand that I claimed SK already.
Drmy is obviously scum. See the way he voted me right from the start? Why not Wings? Oh sure because Wings and Drmy are scumbuddies. If you are town Robo, stop being dumb and unvote at least until we have some discussion going. I AM SERIAL KILLER and Drmy is lying. I had expected Wings to false claim though. If you let scums jump on my wagon right now( which they can), TOWN LOSES.

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#Drmy: If you are SK, why not vote Wings ( confirmed scum to everyone )? I'm willing to do it because the town knows either you and me are SK and NOT Wings.

Vote:Wingsowisdom

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@Robo: If you are town, currently only you and Scott are the only town left so please get here and read carefully. If you are town and the scums all jump on my wagon it'd be the worst blunder you've ever pulled.

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Robo UNVOTE NOW. Why?
WingsoWisdom is confirmed scum.
I am NOT confirmed scum.

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The only way for scum to somehow loose is that we lynch WingsoWisdom today. Anyone refusing to go on the Wings wagon must be scum so in case of a no lynch, me and Scott can choose randomly between the 3 scums and hopefully get 2 scums killed. Robo, don't screw up because I do not think you are scum. If you are town, think of it this way:
There are 6 people left, 3 of whom are scums
Scott is Vig.
Either me or Drmy is Serial Killer.
Wings didn't protect last night nor could he be claiming SK anymore so he is CONFIRMED SCUM.
Drmy is not confirmed SK because he may have been protected by the mafia doctor.
If you happen to lynch the SK, you will loose as town because then the mafia would outnumber you.
--> The best course of action is to lynch WINGS, the confirmed scum with no risk.

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I'm going to bed and you'd better not screw this up Robo.

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If you are town,
1> Thank god scums would have jumped all over me.
2> Sawyer is scum.
3> You will be killed tonight, so make your day worthwhile.
Now we advocate for a Wings lynch and anyone not voting should be scum. Ofcourse if scums don't vote then we won't get the majority for a lynch, but we will know for certain who the scums are ( between you and Sawyer) for me and Scott to Nightkill. If we get lucky, we may hit 2 scums and seal the deal.

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Either me or Drmy is Serial Killer.

Well this is not necessarily true. Nopoint, WoW and Drmy could be the scum team and the non-town of Robo/Sawyer could be SK

Okay ... so we'll wait for Sawyer to come and make his claim . But WoW is confirmed scum either way right?

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I dont understand why you claimed SK. I don't get it.

Well if he is SK it makes sense. If we lynch him, scum auto-win

If he is not SK, it makes some sense if he is the scum BG. He stays alive and can protect the other scum target (if we don't lynch SK and lose)

I am the SK and I guess I could have chosen whether or not I wanted to claim or not, but if I claim and we lynch scum then town wins, but if you guys had lynched me then scum would have won. Either way I loose, shit.

This proves that he obviously is not SK.

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Because if you were SK, you would have known the towns would run out before scums even if you lynch scum. You obviously haven't thought very far ahead to be THE SK.

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OR you just can't put yourself in an SK's shoe. So how bout lynching your buddy Wings er?

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No WoW could not be the SK. Why? Because if he was an SK, there's no reason for Drmy to counterclaim me and try to get me lynched like he just did. SK is either ME or DRMY, get that into your head man.

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No WoW could not be the SK. Why? Because if he was an SK, there's no reason for Drmy to counterclaim me and try to get me lynched like he just did. SK is either ME or DRMY, get that into your head man.

Now wait a minute don't treat Robo like he's dumb. WoW could very much be the SK. What if you and I are scum with sawyer, and we are hoping to bus one of each other? Then night come the SK targets the vig and so do we. Then all that's left is one towny, and one sk killing the SK is the only option, because we two scum won't vote our selves, and mafia wins.

Why would this so called GAMBIT not happen? Because scums are ALREADY OUTNUMBERING TOWNS. Even if they confirm themselves they are already have like 80% chance of winning in this kind of situation. I'm trying to salvage that 20% while you guys are sitting here deducting all kinds of bizarre situation Oh well take your time. It's just a game.

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Exactly.. The fact the Drmy is delaying this proves that he's scum. That's my best case on him.

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Before I go, I'd like to say that Scott will choose his own target, I will shoot Drmy and he will "shoot" me. See who wins

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That's strange, you should be willing to shoot me if you are SK because if you are the real SK, I'm confirmed scum in your eyes. Caught red handed once again. And don't even try to shoot me =)

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Sure Scott I already said you can consider me a Nightkill-Immune Vig.
Drmy has made the biggest blunder ever by bussing his partner. I'm shooting Drmy and he's probably gonna get protection, so it's up to you now Scott, to choose between Sawyer and Robo. Our chance has increased to 50%! Please read carefully and make this work for the sake of our alliance.

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That's strange, you should be willing to shoot me if you are SK because if you are the real SK, I'm confirmed scum in your eyes. Caught red handed once again. And don't even try to shoot me =)

Sawyer is confirmed scum to, and so is WoW. Robo's the towny, and you know who our vig is.

Now what evidence do you have between Robo and Sawyer?

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Then the last scum shall be:

Vote:Sawyer

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Meh. Scott, you didn't kill anyone last night?

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NO!!!!!!!!! nopoint killed ME!!!!!!!! I hate him 4evarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Chill out Gandalf. You once killed me

This game might have been more interesting N3 if WoW was just a goon. Mafia would still have a BG and could cause some night fun.

Exactly. It would have been so epic and I would have given more thoughts to my Night Kill.

I have no idea why drmy bussed Wings like that when a nopoint lynch looked plausible. Also, Nikanor did not submit a protection either N2. I was pretty frustrated that half the game hadn't submitted actions, and extended the deadline at the 48 hour mark when I noticed the thread still said D2 and I thought maybe that was the reason.

Scum under pressure does all kinds of things heh

But the vigs could hit Mafia and the Docs could possibly be protecting the Mafia.

I just realized its my fault the town lost, quickhammering Xscorp without a claim was bad. Well, the town tied.

Yeah. Your rushing into hammering makes it really to manipulate events

I was rooting for nopoint, who had Nikanor convinced early on that he was town. Ah well. The game ended fittingly for a game with four potential night kills flying around, everyone died.[/color]

You were rooting for me though I voted to lynch you? *sniff*

Blah.
I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
Except that my reads were totally wrong and everyone sucked this game (except nopoint).

Nikanor didn't protect me N2?

There was no point in protecting you since the scum thought there was going to be two protections on you anyway.
Plus I forgot.

Hehe, sorry Nik

ok sp if no point was smart he would have voted for the vig, and scum would have lynched, then sk kills mafia and sk wins, simple and easy

At that time, I was hoping Sawyer would go bizarrely inactive like he had and I could have done some persuasion ( thought about claiming scum actually when you were rooting for me in your bah post ). And I totally didn't get why Sawyer didn't understand the non-draw conclusion to a 1-1-1 finale.

Anyways, except for the final blunder, it was a really good game and I did get my double revenge on Gandalf and XScorpion without being detected. This Set-up is really fun to play with and being the SK makes it even more entertaining.

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No we weren't o' devious one.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=14613

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But I remember it too well XS.. too well ... =))

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Only Zajnet was being all paranoid ==

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because Zaj hammered way too fast xD

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But he's right. You got me gone all hysteria for a moment with your vote =)