/in-vitational Game 8 - Nito City (over) after 1015

[Zajnet]

f1rst!!11!!111!one1!!!eleven!!!!3.14159261!1!111112

But seriously though, VOTE: ChannelFireball

I'M IN UR COMBO COUNTERING YOUR FIREBALL. YOU'RE AT 1. IS IT MY TURN YET?

[Zajnet]

VOTE: Zajnet

The reason is obv ... Central Park 234.

Enough said.

This is one of those times that this site had a facepalm emote like the other site I play mafia on.

V/LA for 48 hours from this post.

[Zajnet]

Oops, got prodded.

I don't know what to think of the Zach/Jack/Sotty/MOI/etc debate. I kind of trust Sotty's read on Zach, but at the same time I don't. Meh.

MOI is winning some serious scum points for voting shenanigans.

VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

[Zajnet]

This is how I read the above events: with no counter point to keep the debate going, he pretty much accepted Sotty7's defense. Problem is, half of it are questions and the other half are not incredibly good defense points. Seems like they were made for more elaboration.

I take it from this post you find Jack’s points convincing. I myself don’t find them overwhelmingly powerful evidence that Sotty is acting scummy. Please elaborate on why you find Jack’s points (especially the third and fourth points) convincing.

I'm interested to see the effect of increased pressure on Sando to see how he responds.

UNVOTE: Porochaz
VOTE: Sando

Someone else asked what the effect of said pressure would be. You never answered. Are you satisfied with Sando’s statements since this post?

UNVOTE: Zajnet
VOTE: Charlie

magna that post lacks a shotty vote. Why do you still have your vote parked on zajnet?

Yes it does lack a Shotty vote since he isn’t playing this game. It also lacks a Sotty vote. I’m not one to vote-hop like a pinball machine. Thus my vote on zajnet is going to sit there until I have a firm suspicion I want to apply pressure to.

MOI must have a firm scum read on Charlie, but I'm not seeing how that case is any stronger than any of the other cases.

[Zajnet]

MOI is winning some serious scum points for voting shenanigans.

VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

How so?

@Locke: Just an fyi every game I ever played with you I think you are scum. Post 119 actually gives me pause on you a bit in a good way.

.Thus my vote on zajnet is going to sit there until I have a firm suspicion I want to apply pressure to.

And yet I question you about your lack of vote on Sotty and suddenly you find a voice and vote charlie for (1) reason's that are false and (2) weak reason for his vote.

unvote:
vote: MOI

[Zajnet]

I'm copy pasting your point to clarify that we're talking about the exact same thing.

[Zajnet]

I had posted my reasoning before the farside quote, it just didn't make sense to people that didn't have insight into my brain, so I elaborated at the top of this page, and then when people still didn't get that, I quoted where farside had the exact same reasoning as what I was trying to explain.

[Zajnet]

Hey Zajnet, how about some of those stronger stances I asked for? You seem to have failed to talk about anyone other than MOI since I asked that question. You haven't really said much about MOI either, other than to repeat what's already been said. Any analysis on any other players in the game?

I'm shit for analysis on D1. Charlie is acting scummy, but not enough so that I would feel confidant lynching him. I still feel MOI is the scummiest, for reasons I've already stated (they may be brief but so what?).

[Zajnet]

Oh Hai, I've been prodded. I just moved into my dorm and I've got dinner in a bit, so I'll post more later.

[Zajnet]

Sorry guys, but I'll be V/LA until Wednesday for UTD Fish Camp.

[Zajnet]

We can't afford a no-lynch and deadline is almost here, so I'll go ahead and hammer Charlie.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Charlie

We'll deal with the Jack/MOI situation tomorrow.

[Zajnet]

vote: zajant

Any reason you didn't wait to get a claim before voting?

Because I'm a dumbass.

[Zajnet]

I would imagine a Goon Cop is a cop that detects Goons.

[Zajnet]

Whoops, got prodded. Time flies when I'm taking 16 hours of honors courses >.> speaking of which, gotta run to one of them. I'll post a catch-up post and some analysis later tonight.

[Zajnet]

I'm really sorry that I haven't posted more. I really don't want to have to replace out of this game because of RL issues, but I'll be V/LA until Monday the 30th for a scholarship retreat. If Incog feels the need to replace me, so be it, but I should be find to post regularly after I get back on Monday.

I think we should lynch the guy who just claimed doc and got CCd. I'll go ahead and:
VOTE: jason

[Zajnet]

I was planning on posting lots of content tonight but I'm really tired. Hopefully I'll get around to it tomorrow, but I have HW and stuff.

[Zajnet]

I am stumped by my semblance of a reread. Nobody really jumps out to me as scum. Sando, Poro, and Jack all exhibit elements of scumminess, but nothing blatantly a scum-tell. I need to reread looking specifically for connections to Jason now, but a preliminary look over MOI's analysis seems to show that Sando is the scummiest because of voting patterns. However, I am not comfortable enough in that to vote for anyone, especially with Sando at L-2.

[Zajnet]

Sorry for needed to be prodded (again).

I'm going to sound like lurking, wagoning scum, but that's OK.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Jack

There's nothing I could say that wouldn't be a direct quote from someone in the last page. Jack is scum.

[Zajnet]

@Zajnet

re 515 – This makes my skin crawl. This sort of ‘support’ for Jack as a candidate actually gives him Town cred.

So if I'm scum, Jack probably isn't. Cool, because I'm not scum.

[Zajnet]

If you don't believe me that I'm taking 16 hours of honors courses, I can send you my schedule. I have to budget the time that I do have. I posted in other games because I had more relevant stuff to say in them.

[Zajnet]

I have nothing more to add than that Jack is obvscum.

[Zajnet]

That assures what, that the kill will be blocked? That I'm scum? That Erg0 is scum?

[Zajnet]

VOTE: Erg0

[Zajnet]

I'm pretty sure that she would have blocked me last night after how the past couple of days have gone. I know this is total wifom, but I'd like to think that that partially clears me.

[Zajnet]

That assures what, that the kill will be blocked? That I'm scum? That Erg0 is scum?

Explain your thinking here please Zajnet.

I didn't know what she was referring to when she said the she had role information assuring

that

.

[Zajnet]

I was asking what she was saying because it wasn't clear. If she blocked me and the scum chose a no-kill, she would think that she had role information that I was scum.

[Zajnet]

I'm not saying they would have. But I am saying that it is possible that she would think she had role information ensuring that I'm scum when I'm actually not.

[Zajnet]

It isn't, but its possible. I wanted to cover every possible base in my questioning of her.

[Zajnet]

We have a scummy lurker. You do not not lynch scummy lurkers.

Isn't that what you define me as? A scummy lurker?

As to who's scum if it isn't me, I really don't know. I think that Jack wouldn't be tunneling on me this hard if he was scum, because then it would look really bad for him when I flipped town. The recent exchange between Poro and Locke doesn't really help me out with either of them, I still have a null read on both of them. I'm confused as to why MOI isn't being looked at more thoroughly as possibly scum right now. I'm getting a scummy vibe from MOI, especially in that s/he hasn't done any analysis except for VC analysis, which can be made to look however you want because its all a big case of wine. In fact, MOI is easily my scummiest read right now.

VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

[Zajnet]

I think Magna has contributed more than just VC analysis and he went pretty hard at Jason in the first place. Are you saying that the rest of Magna's posts are analysis-free?

Well, I know that's what I actually said, but that's not entirely what I meant. I didn't mean to say that Magna had

no

analysis besides VC analysis, I meant to say that the bulk of Magna's analysis was VC analysis that would be incredibly easy to skew.

[Zajnet]

Someone hammer.

lol.

[Zajnet]

So are we just waiting for farside?