/invitational 10 - Robot Love (Game)

[Seraphim]

/confirm

Vote: charter

Random vote without reasoning = going through the motions = trying to conform to town mindset = scum

[Seraphim]

cool, glad jahudo and seraphim joined.

that being said,

vote Seraphim

, why are you scum?

This is a good question but before I can answer it we must first delve deep into the understandings we must derive from the question itself. Exactly what can we derive from the pretext of such a question? Two players, Drench and AdumbroDeus, have replaced out from their previous incarnations as players, now reduced to mere spectators within the plane of existence between the state of "playing" and the state of "not playing". What is their commitment in the larger scheme of things, reduced to a certain limitation of nothingness, until they are no longer players? These two, having traversed this plane, leaves in their wake a certain void without limitations, only to be filled by someone coming from, in fact, the

opposite direction

of this natural plane between states. This void must be filled in order for the game, not in progress but certainly well on its way, to continue. Thus, a natural impasse is reached. How can it be possible for the game to continue in a state of uncertain unresolved certainty of nothingness compounded twicefold? The only way is for the void to be filled, naturally, by another coming from the opposite direction of certainty, into a greater or lesser twisting of abstract fact and faction that is what we like to call, in fact, the game of Mafia. Two players, resolute in their steadfastness, bravely and deeply, ventured into this deep void of emptiness left by previously aforementioned departures of a unfortunate nature. Thusly, the two players, Jahudo and myself, entered into this game.

Now, within in this context, we must ask ourselves: why am I, Seraphim, scum? The answer: a random influx of data stemming from meteorological occurrences then channeled into a identifiable stream of numbers. This is better known as a random number generator, which most likely handed out the rules. Unfortunately, this question has the rather bizarre quality of creating a strange contradiction between what I believe is truth and what you, curiouskarmadog, believe as truth. You see, the question assumes, to a large degree, that I am "scum" or more accurately, the "Human Lover" role. This is simply not factual accurate and implies two things, both of which could compound the difficulty of the game. The first thing implicated by your statement is that I am the "Human Lover" role, which simply isn't true based on my current knowledge of the game, which seems to state that I am a town role. The second thing implicated by your statement is that you have some sort of previous knowledge of the game's inner workings, this given by your certainty implied by the wording of your question. The only players given knowledge of the game's inner workings are the "scum" roles, players with a deeper knowledge of the game's enemies due to their status of aforementioned enemies. So, if your question is factually accurate, the only explanation of the game is that you and I are, in fact, "scum", or the "Human Lover" role, together.

As part of my role as a "scumbag", I should attempt to adhere to a town mindset, which would seem to include lynching "scum" and knowing that the "scum" are attempting to do the same. Therefore, coming to this conclusion, I, as scum, would be most suited to voting the player most likely to be scum aka curiouskarmadog, my partner given by the logic given above.

Ergo,

Unvote
Vote: curiouskarmadog

[Seraphim]

This game needs more Andrius love.

[Seraphim]

I suppose that explains the lack of Andrius love.

[Seraphim]

AlmasterGM: why exactly does that post sound scummy to you? (might as well start somewhere)

[Seraphim]

Yeah, probably not. We should have lynched Faraday, dammit, I wasn't THAT scummy.

And I was going to reply to Almaster: it doesn't seem that scummy to me, looks like a joke roleclaim during the RVS.

ANDRIUS WHERE ARE YOU

[Seraphim]

lol half of this playerlist was in that game. And I share those sentiments. But let's not dwell on the past and thrust ourselves boldly into the future!

Unvote
Vote: Andrius

until he posts. Good a place as any right now.

[Seraphim]

Wow this game feels kinda pointless.

Unvote
Vote: charter

WAGON!

[Seraphim]

Seraphim, is there any criteria for your votes? I get the impression you're just voting as much as you can until something sticks.

Nothing has really happened yet. I have no reason for voting anyone at this point.

[Seraphim]

It's certainly more productive than doing nothing.

[Seraphim]

wait, is charter at L-1? Since when?

[Seraphim]

Alright, I guess. I think I missed Andrius's vote...I coulda sworn he was voting the mod.

[Seraphim]

Why should I unvote? Are you worried someone is going to hammer?

[Seraphim]

yes, you are not?

Obviously. Bleah, whatever.

Unvote

Nothing is happening.

If no one is interested in actually getting some discussion going, I will.

@Andrius: Even off of V/LA, it seems like you're a sort of non-presence in this game. What are your thoughts on the charter wagon?
@CKD: Why are you worried about charter getting lynched?
@AlmaterGM: Why aren't you worried about charter getting lynched?
@Jahudo: What exactly do you mean by "lazy"?
@charter: Feelings on being run up to L-1?

[Seraphim]

Mod: Andrius is voting charter

.

[Seraphim]

I've learned that people don't like it when I vote jump so much. I also am noting that you seem cool under pressure. I also see what you mean about Andrius. He definitely seems to be half-assing this game.

Vote: Andrius

[Seraphim]

Hammer? I wouldn't mind a hammer.

[Seraphim]

I wasn't expecting one from you.

[Seraphim]

Seraphim, exactly what happened for you in between when you voted and post 82 that increased suspicion to the point where you wouldn't mind a hammer?

Andrius's inability to actually post content and continued use of "meta" to absolutely no point.

Basic thinking states that at least one of {curiouskarmadog, Charter, AlmasterGM} is scum. Now, the question we must ask: how many scum were on the wagon, because if it's just one, we should lynch Jahudo. I'm obviously not going to put a vote down(as that would be silly) but I'm willing to bet that CKD is town just because of my previous experience with him. This leaves Charter and AlmasterGM as the possible scum on the wagon. I'm going to read back and see if it's possible that they are lovers together.

[Seraphim]

I unvoted Charter because it was going nowhere and I didn't think charter was scum. I kept the vote on Andrius because I wanted him at L-1 and I thought he was scum.

[Seraphim]

From my perspective, you realize that implicates you, right?

[Seraphim]

if I'm scum, who is my partner, charter?

[Seraphim]

From my perspective, you realize that implicates you, right?

Or your CKD meta is wrong, from your "confirmed to yourself town" perspective.

That's entirely possible. But every game I've played with CKD, he was town, and he played pretty much like this. I suppose I should go and check out some CKD scum meta, huh?

[Seraphim]

...I have no idea what to say, honestly. ...

pretty much everyone is convinced I am scum...as usual.

Lemme reread the five pages of game. lol. and see if I can't come up with something.

[Seraphim]

CKD: why are you so intent on lynching me when AlmasterGM did the actual hammering?

[Seraphim]

Whatever. Only scum is sure enough to vote right now.

Vote: charter

[Seraphim]

Yeah, I realized the irony like five minutes after making the post. I'm not unvoting though.

[Seraphim]

Also, CKD, you seem oddly nonchalant. If AGM or Jahudo is the scumteam, they win.

[Seraphim]

I'm going to have a full and legit case on charter scum later today. I do have other reasons for voting him besides OMGUS, I just didn't expect him to vote me so soon.

It's clear that charter is scum, though, scum had no reason to wait to prevent a quickhammer. Hopefully my case will also find likely charter partners. Gut says CKD but I could be wrong on that count.

His scumhunting is pretty enigmatic. He also seems to be moving along the exact same track as charter (Andrius lynch and now support for Sera lynch), but without the appearance that they are working together (not mentioning charter, distancing from the quicklynch, etc).

I don't like passing off stuff like this as coincidence.

[Seraphim]

*pounds head against keyboard*

[Seraphim]

CKD, you of all people should know that using meta on me is an exercise in futility. I play so differently from game to game.

Jahudo had me convinced he was town, but I was almost positive charter was scum.

[Seraphim]

*pounds head against keyboard*

Let us never speak of this game again.

[Seraphim]

Jahudo, CKD...we need to stop playing games together.

[Seraphim]

our games together have been sad. And I can't read Jahudo, he plays a good town and scum.