Mini 245 - Stick Figures Mafia - Game Over!

[Changling bob]

[Changling bob]

*cough*StyleUpgradeWhore*cough*

Meanie.

[Changling bob]

Hmm, it seems that the random votes has massed up on Narninian. We must be careful on this, as a mafia - as stupid and revealing as it would be - could jump the pile and get a possible townie lynched.

Of course, if we have 2 or 3 mafiosos, they could already be piling the votes, but again - that would also be extremely suspicious.

I have yet to see anything really suspicious behaviour - but I still

FOS: Dragon Phoenix

for putting the third vote on Narninian. (I know that mathcan actually has the third vote on Bruno/Narninian, but I blame the confusion of "the assistant".).

it's 3 votes. We gotta run up someone. might as well be Narninian. Run him up, gets a role claim, and we move on from there.

Why don't we run you up if you're so insistant we do it to someone?

[Changling bob]

Just to get this straight: I don't like BJ's aggressive playstyle, it grates on me. If he wants to run someone up, especially with comments like

"has narninian given last words yet?"

, I get annoyed at the arogance. So sue me. I'd rather run up BJ for that than Narninian for no reason.

I agree that bandwagoning people is the key to day one, but random bandwagons can easily be bad: what if Narn is a power role: we expose him day one, that kinda limits our options, and weakens the town. It appears we're bandwagoning him because he was logged into the wrong account when he posted once. Zomg that r teh scummy!!1!one11eleventy~

Also, I'm quite rubish at actually playing mafia, so whatever

[Changling bob]

Now you see BJ, we've actually got something to talk about without having any roles exposed

[Changling bob]

I like ponies

Me too!

Wow, something we agree on

[Changling bob]

In my opinion, this is about as good a scenario as day 1 can get, bar scum accidentally revealing themselves. If we continue this day, hopping on more and more bandwagons and getting more and more roles in the open, we really aren't doing the town any favours.

vote:narninian

FoS

"Because we haven't got anything better, lets lynch this townie?" Nice move. Granted BJ's tactics of get everyone to claim through bandwagon is bad, but this is just silly.

[Changling bob]

What Tyfo said. I'm quite conservative with votes; when I do vote, I like to be sure.

I also like to give people a chance to defend themselves first.

[Changling bob]

b) You admitted you do not have a power role...anyone else I could vote has not. Therefor you have a greater percentage chance of being scum then anyone else. There is alos very little risk in the lynch as it does nopt out the doc or cop, or another role we may want to keep hidden.

This makes no sense and in any case is WIFOM. If scum, why claim plain townie when you can claim doc or cop and have even less chance of getting lynched?

[Changling bob]

so let me get this straight...

bandwagon me with no reason.
Keep the bandwagon on me because I dont defend it ---
I claim townie.... keep the bandwagon on me..
I cant point out anybody else as 'scummy' people its perfectly sane to lynch a townie....


are you guys just gonna give up on finding scum today? lazy bums

How do we know you are not scum....

Surely this is the wrong way to do it.

Also, how do we know

you

aren't scum. Or me. Or anyone else in the town?

[Changling bob]

Ok, I'm posting. I didn't believe Narninian to be that scummy and I was just waiting to see how that played out. There wasn't really much to say.

Nice second post.

unvote, vote: mlaker

[Changling bob]

has mlaker given last words yet....

I will be replacing MLaker, as my efforts to get him to contribute more have failed miserably.

Good jorb reading the thread.

[Changling bob]

So let me see here, you're fine with people posting no content but since I had nothing to post you decide to lynch me. Great. Smart. Wonderful.

This is your third post.

Lots of stuff has happened.

None of it has even been mentioned by you.

GET ON WITH IT [/]

[Changling bob]

Unvote, vote: BJ

for his bandwagon-happy attitude. On a player who it was stated was going to be replaced especially.

[Changling bob]

FoS: everyone voting Narninian

[Changling bob]

No, I'm claiming that we have

no evidence

that he is scum, and yet some people are perfectly willing to string him up. The game is lynch the scum, not lynch the townies.

[Changling bob]

No, I'm claiming that we have

no evidence

that he is scum, and yet some people are perfectly willing to string him up. The game is lynch the scum, not lynch the townies.

Well, you're voting me, and you have no evidence I am scum, so that kind of makes you a bit of a hypocrite....

You pushing to lynch a claimed townie isn't scummy at all, especially when that's what I just said

I'm not sure about no lynch. Starting with day always gives us less information to go on, and although day one on start with night is very little better, there is always that little bit to work with. I don't think that it's the best move right now, I'd rather be looking at the players who are pushing to lynch Narninian with no real reason beyond "well it isn't me or a power role," which is what it boils down to.

[Changling bob]

The ones where we don't bandwagon until we get a claim, then lynch the claimee if they claim townie, and don't if they claim a power role as that's what scum would do as then they

don't get lynched

.

[Changling bob]

The ones where we don't bandwagon until we get a claim, then lynch the claimee if they claim townie, and don't if they claim a power role as that's what scum would do as then they

don't get lynched

.

so we don't bandwagon UNTIL we get a claim? So we're just hoping someone's gonna jump out with no pressure and say he's a townie, then you want us to lynch him......

No, we look at voting patterns, like who's overeager to lynch someone.....

[Changling bob]

No, its just retarded townie play.

[Changling bob]

unvote, vote changling bob

omgus

[/enthusiasm]

[Changling bob]

I have no problem with lynching Narininan, but I feel as if Changling Bob is either A: Searching for Roles or B: Protecting a Buddy.

Or C: not wanting to lynch town for the fun of it.

@BJ: What's interesting about what I said?

Could we have a votecount please

[Changling bob]

FoS

Tyfo. when pressured about lurkingness, jumping on BJ is the easiest thing you can do really. He always looks suspicious, and voting for the sake of it is bad mmmmkay?

Lets hear something from you other than (and I'm paraphrasing here) "Look over there!"

[Changling bob]

EBWOP: Only a fos as there are several votes on him already, lynching townies is also bad mmmkay.

[Changling bob]

so I should just shutup and let myself get lynched? its not like Im posting that frequently, its just nobody else is..

so who do you suggest we lynch....

We were looking at tyfo..... until DP cunningly or otherwise distracted us from that issue to prod at Narninian again.

[Changling bob]

Bdonlan has disappeared from a game I'm running as well =/

[Changling bob]

Tyfo's 2 from a lynch, probably should claim.....

Hope we didn't run up the doc...

This sounded awfully insincere to me. Maybe BJ's not so bad of a target today after all. Hmm.

Cam

Don't even bother trying to explain yourself or anything.....

Admittedly, you're always like this, but it

doesn't help the town that you

always act scummy

.

[Changling bob]

Tyfo's 2 from a lynch, probably should claim.....

Hope we didn't run up the doc...

This sounded awfully insincere to me. Maybe BJ's not so bad of a target today after all. Hmm.

Cam

Don't even bother trying to explain yourself or anything.....

Admittedly, you're always like this, but it

doesn't help the town that you

always act scummy

.

hoping we didn't run up the doc is scummy?? interesting....

No, the insincerity of it is. I wasn't even the one who picked you up on that.

[Changling bob]

The reason I've got stinches in my spine at the moment, is because I had a somewhat weird-looking mark on my back that I got removed. So unless it turns out to be cancer (which there is a possibility for, but not big) it is not going to affect my overall gameplay - though it hurts.

...........


So where's the gameplay then?

[Changling bob]

=/

That seems such a, 'oh, by the way I'm doctor, good jorb town' post. Also, its assuming we're still going to lynch you, regardless of what you claim.

I'm not sure I buy it. But then again, we don't actually want to lynch the doctor.

Arses.

[Changling bob]

We may as well

unvote

though, if he IS faking doc he won't last long....

vote Changling bob

Interesting...... [/you]

[Changling bob]

obviously we dont want to lynch a doc on day 1 without a counterclaim..

Is a day one counterclaim of doc really the best play ever?

Also, your tactic has been proved to be faulty, and you still persue it BJ? Good jorb. I think my vote's still on you.

[Changling bob]

obviously we dont want to lynch a doc on day 1 without a counterclaim..

Is a day one counterclaim of doc really the best play ever?

Also, your tactic has been proved to be faulty, and you still persue it BJ? Good jorb. I think my vote's still on you.

What tactic is "faulty"....

Bandwagon to claim on everyone in the game.

Also, single line posts that don't advance the game.

[Changling bob]

obviously we dont want to lynch a doc on day 1 without a counterclaim..

Is a day one counterclaim of doc really the best play ever?

Also, your tactic has been proved to be faulty, and you still persue it BJ? Good jorb. I think my vote's still on you.

What tactic is "faulty"....

Bandwagon to claim on everyone in the game.

Also, single line posts that don't advance the game.

Oh, and you seem to be implying the runup on Tyfo was faulty....do you somehow KNOW that he really is the doc, and not faking?

interesting...

No, I don't.

But we've now exposed someone who's claimed doc. Shall we out the cop next?

[Changling bob]

No.

[Changling bob]

No.

then its safe to run you up, no?

Well if you want you can. I wouldn't, but then I'm not bandwagon-happy.

Also, sorry Mathcam

[Changling bob]

I refuse to push this wagon while there are other more scummy people out there.

[Changling bob]

like yourself, for instance

Like where? I was thinking more of you and tyfo meself.

[Changling bob]

He's being his typical self, and sometimes, his scumdar is better than most.

Being always scummy is not condusive to playing as town.

But I see your point. I still don't want to push the wagon though.

Unvote

for now.

[Changling bob]

FoS: BabyJesus

with Tyfo coming in second.

FoS: Tyfo

in case anyone wants to keep track.

[Changling bob]

About 2) the point in a"scapegoat" is to let a person look suspicious, so that the person would get target by the other players and the guilty would be free.

I do not know why they chose to kill LML, how would I know?

The thing is, if you are the doc, and they leave you alive and assume we'll lynch you, then when people question whether we should or not, its bad for the scum. There is no reason for scum to kill one of their own. Hence, the longer you survive, the more we should lynch you. I personally would give you another night before actually wanting to lynch you, as without crazy setups with multiple killing groups and what-have-you, I find the possibility of two docs low. Although, as pointed out above, deflectors or other similar roles could come into the equation, Occam's razor says to ignore them for now until we get some kind of proof of them.

@BJ: Did you read the post directly above the one you quoted? I also find it strange that you're happy to continue the random bandwagon logic, attempting to push one on me, as you did yesterday to no avail.

[Changling bob]

by vote on you is not random, it is because you were protecting the f'ing godfather.

I was not protecting the godfather, I was not advocating lynching someone who claimed townie, and turned out to be the godfather. I admit it makes me look bad, but that's happened to several people, and besides, there are better people to be looking at than me.

[Changling bob]

Tyfo as his surviving looks too suspicious to me. Maybe thats just gut. I don't know.

BJ. Gut. Plus bandwagondancing yesterday, and always with the refusing to answer accusations against him.

[Changling bob]

funny that your gut says the person who is voting for you is scum!?!

Yes, but if there was a bandwagon on anyone else, he would move to it, as evidenced by every single vote change of his yesterday.

[Changling bob]

it doesn;t sound like he's disputing tyfo

o rly?

so he's a pretty safe lynch.

No.


;_;/

Vote: Tyfo

[Changling bob]

EBWOP: BJ, you have argueably the worst way of dealing with things I've seen in a game of mafia, barring complete idiots. Bandwagon to claim has just failed you again. gg.

[Changling bob]

it doesn;t sound like he's disputing tyfo

o rly?

Claim bob claim, see bob claim.

I will wake up dead tomorrow, seeing as I expect at least one of the mafia to be intelligent. However because the town cannot communicate privately, I will claim for you anyway.

I am the doc. Gratz guys.

If you still want to go ahead and lynch me, then you know your target for tomorrow.

[Changling bob]

Seeing how none of us here know the setup, I don't see any use in trying to outguess the mod. Still, I don't like how Changeling bob accepted Tyfo's claim so readily. I'm beggining to think he might be a mafiate, who planned on trying to get the doctor lynched today. Hmm...

Where did I accept Tyfo's claim?

[Changling bob]

=/

That seems such a, 'oh, by the way I'm doctor, good jorb town' post. Also, its assuming we're still going to lynch you, regardless of what you claim.

I'm not sure I buy it. But then again, we don't actually want to lynch the doctor.

Arses.

Just to clarify my above post, this is the post directly after where Tyfo claims. Spot the not acceptingness

@BJ: for once I kinda agree with you. Tyfo's dead as soon as I am.

[Changling bob]

Unvote

Go me for concentrating before posting.

[Changling bob]

I think he is scum....

Why?

@Blackberry: thats some nice telling the town what to do.

FoS

[Changling bob]

@Blackberry: thats some nice telling the town what to do.

FoS

Sometimes if you have a good idea you have to tell them to the town. Let the people rejoice!

The way blackberry posted it seemed more like "well my plan's going to go through, but just in case...."

Could just be me though.

[Changling bob]

vote: BJ

Gogo circle-jerk logic.

I do however agree that neither myself nor Tyfo should be lynch, despite the fact that one of us is scum.

I also still have a bad-ish feeling about blackberry, although I'm not too sure about that.

[Changling bob]

I do however agree that neither myself nor Tyfo should be lynch, despite the fact that one of us is scum.

Whoa, really? Why do you say that?

Cam

Because if we don't the scum have to make the first move. As soon as that happens, we're one for one, good for town.
Otherwise, we have the chance of tieing up two lynches in a row while scum get free pot shots, or otherwise we go one for one. However, if we wait for scum, we get more use out of the doc ability before I die.

[Changling bob]

Heh. I was about to move my vote to BJ, but it's already there. Odd that.

*points at sig*

[Changling bob]

Lat game I played with you, you got a CONFIRMED Mason lynched. So I put very litte stock in any "quality" you think you have, so your post is the ultimate in hypocrisy.

Yes, because you only ever play like scum, and you also happened to be a miller. Get over it.

[Changling bob]

Interesting that changling bob is voting me, instead of the other claimed doc....

I find it interesting that this agrees with your point of not killing either of us to keep the real doc alive, and yet you still have to bring it up.

[Changling bob]

It neither helps nor hinders my position to vote for Tyfo. I know he's lying, and haven't really got any evidence to back this up to convince anyone else with. Seeing as there isn't really a big 'me or him' thing going on, I'm going to put my vote where I think it will be the most use.

On that note, I'm going to step back from myself now and say this:

Do you have any other evidence towards a blackberry lynch? Noting that blackberry hasn't replied to your accusation in 401, does anyone have any pressing reasons that we shouldn't lynch him?

I will probably get time to go through this thread properly again in the next few days, and will post any further thoughts then.

Unvote

[Changling bob]

Backup doc?

Easiest scum claim ever? Especially since we have two outed docs, both of whom are likely to die fairly imminently.

I don't think I buy it.

[Changling bob]

Why would give the scum any more info? Let's just finish off Blackberry. We can deal with the "why" tomorrow, depending on what Blackberry comes up as.

Disturbingly, I think this is probably our best plan.

vote: Blackberry

[Changling bob]

lets

vote lying brian

today....

Any particular reason?

[Changling bob]

Would both claimed doctors be so kind to state whom they protected last night and why?

BJ. Because I trust his judgement more than I let on. Especially in this game so far.

[Changling bob]

I know

[Changling bob]

Because a) I will obviously protect an outed power role, therefore don't need to. nB this only works once, and b) because I'm retarded

[Changling bob]

I still can't believe CB actually did protect me....lol

I was at that point under the impression you were the cop.



Also, on the incorporating stick figures, I an interesting idea would be to say 'only post in stick figures'. Or something. But that would be far too restrictive.